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Donald Trump indicted on federal charges related to handling of classified documents

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He's incorrect anyway, the fourteenth amendment disqualifies a person from running for office if they've committed criminal acts intended to damage the United States or its government (treason, essentially). There are potential espionage charges in this indictment which would disqualify him.
Looking into it, it does seem like there aren't any laws preventing him from running and even being the president while in prison. So yeah, kind of dumb.
I wouldn't trust what @Xzi says. He has a habit of lying and changing people's comments here. Plus he's British and supports doing bad things to children.
I've yet to see any of that from him. Although he does appear to be incorrect here, I don't think that's the result of anything you just mentioned. I also have my doubts that he supports anything harmful happening to kids.
 
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Looking into it, it does seem like there aren't any laws preventing him from running and even being the president while in prison. So yeah, kind of dumb.
Prison has nothing to do with it. If he's found guilty of any crime related to sedition, conspiracy against the US, treason, etc, he's automatically disqualified from running for office again under the fourteenth even if there's no prison time included in the conviction.
 
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I full quoted you and simply translated it for the rest of us, no need to get your panties in a wad. All kings and queens can go fuck themselves, and Christianity has been a pedophile conspiracy ever since 1946 when several passages which forbade sex with children/child marriage were removed from the bible. #TheMoreYouKnow
You completely changed my words. Maybe English isn't your primary language or you are just a lying TQIP+ supporter who enjoys mutilating kids. It doesn't matter. Everybody knows who you are.
God I hope you're right, give us someone younger. Unless it's Bernie Sanders, I'd vote for him at age 100.
You are British and cannot vote in American elections unless you cross the southern border illegally.
 

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Prison has nothing to do with it. If he's found guilty of any crime related to sedition, conspiracy against the US, treason, etc, he's automatically disqualified from running for office again under the fourteenth even if there's no prison time included in the conviction.
I am going to wait and see what the experts say about this because I am honestly finding too many conflicting articles. There's def going to be someone who can give a clear and solid answer that is qualified to do so. For now, I am just going to hope this disqualifies him and that we don't see another Trump presidency.
 
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Prison has nothing to do with it. If he's found guilty of any crime related to sedition, conspiracy against the US, treason, etc, he's automatically disqualified from running for office again under the fourteenth even if there's no prison time included in the conviction.
Keep that hopium alive there, sport. The rest of us are laughing at you because you still haven't caught on yet.
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I am going to wait and see what the experts say about this because I am honestly finding too many conflicting articles. There's def going to be someone who can give a clear and solid answer that is qualified to do so. For now, I am just going to hope this disqualifies him and that we don't see another Trump presidency.
Trump will never be convicted of anything. But so many very important precedents are being set for the future. I hope Biden and the DOJ keep going after Trump. In fact, I hope they go after him even harder.
 

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Everybody knows who you are.
Yup, I'm an anti-fascist like every sane American. Guess that makes you...less than sane.

You are British and cannot vote in American elections unless you cross the southern border illegally.
Oh c'mon, if we're gonna play make-believe let me be Rastafarian or New Zealander or something cooler than British at least.

I am going to wait and see what the experts say about this because I am honestly finding too many conflicting articles. There's def going to be someone who can give a clear and solid answer that is qualified to do so. For now, I am just going to hope this disqualifies him and that we don't see another Trump presidency.
We'll know the precise nature of the charges and whether they might disqualify him on Tuesday, that's the arraignment.
 

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We'll know the precise nature of the charges and whether they might disqualify him on Tuesday, that's the arraignment.
And that's what I shall be waiting for because right now I am looking silly bouncing back and forth on a topic that I have very little knowledge on.
 
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Yup, I'm an anti-fascist like every sane American. Guess that makes you...less than sane.
Anti-fascists don't have to lie about other people.
Oh c'mon, if we're gonna play make-believe let me be Rastafarian or New Zealander or something cooler than British at least.
I make believe that you are a serious person. I still haven't convinced myself.
We'll know the precise nature of the charges and whether they might disqualify him on Tuesday, that's the arraignment.
Do you smoke the hopium or are you mainlining it yet?
 
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Anti-fascists don't have to lie about other people.
Anti-fascists mock fascists. Don't hate the player, hate the game.

I make believe that you are a serious person. I still haven't convinced myself.
Why would I take our conversations seriously any more? You don't even have your own best interests at heart, let alone anyone else's.

Do you smoke the hopium or are you mainlining it yet?
If you had bothered to improve your reading comprehension at all since the last time we conversed, you'd know I don't care if that four-time loser runs again or not. Nobody's above the law, even if you do have a picture of his face photoshopped over Chuck Norris' shirtless body hanging above your bed. Ye Olde Pumpkin Bitchtits thought he could do whatever the hell he wanted with classified documents, well here comes the find out after the fuck around.
 
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Prison has nothing to do with it. If he's found guilty of any crime related to sedition, conspiracy against the US, treason, etc, he's automatically disqualified from running for office again under the fourteenth even if there's no prison time included in the conviction.

Kinda? It more gives Congress the opportunity to vote if they'd like the disqualification to go through. It's not necessarily an end-all-be-all circumstance.

To quote the section of the 14th Amendment in question - Section 3, the Disqualification Clause:

No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.

This means that anyone who has previously taken an Oath is under grounds for disqualification of any governing office if they have engaged in an act of animosity towards the US, such as insurrection or rebellion after the process of a Majority Vote. But unlike other rules of office, this is a decision that can actually be overruled after the fact via the courts.

There's also argument as to whether this clause even definitively applies to the President, not to even mention the fact that it's never been used before; so seeing as there's a large amount of discourse surrounding it politically both within office, and out- it's very unlikely that it'd lead to any definitive conclusions on the grounds of disqualification.

On another note: I doubt he'll even be definitively charged. The dude's rich, and can probably get out of any legal situation that he pleases. While I have no love for him as a governing official, I also think it's useless to go after him as much as we have. It's an endless source of controversy that never sees resolution.
 
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While the FBI and DOJ is on a witch hunt to get DrumPf, Instagram has been facilitating child porn on their network. People were using code words like "maps" and "pizza".

https://www.zerohedge.com/political...stagram-facilitated-massive-pedophile-network

So getting Trump is more important than protecting children. Let that sink in for a bit.
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Anti-fascists mock fascists. Don't hate the player, hate the game.
You don't even know what a fascist is.
Why would I take our conversations seriously any more? You don't even have your own best interests at heart, let alone anyone else's.
I swore an oath to the Constitution. Only fascists hate the Constitution.
If you had bothered to improve your reading comprehension at all since the last time we conversed, you'd know I don't care if that four-time loser runs again or not. Nobody's above the law, even if you do have a picture of his face photoshopped over Chuck Norris' shirtless body hanging above your bed. Ye Olde Pumpkin Bitchtits thought he could do whatever the hell he wanted with classified documents, well here comes the find out after the fuck around.
Please remember that nobody is above the law. That will be very important in a year or two.
 
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On another note: I doubt he'll even be definitively charged.
He's already been indicted, the arraignment is Tuesday. If any plea bargain is to be made, it'll be made then. However, I think these charges are too extreme to ignore, and he is the top dog in this case, there's nothing he could gives the feds that's more juicy than his head on a platter.

EDIT: UNLESS he gives them a ton of intelligence on Russia, in which case that would be front-page news eventually and ROFLMAO.
 

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Kinda? It more gives Congress the opportunity to vote if they'd like the disqualification to go through. It's not necessarily an end-all-be-all circumstance.

To quote the section of the 14th Amendment in question - Section 3, the Disqualification Clause:



This means that anyone who has previously taken an Oath is under grounds for disqualification of any governing office if they have engaged in an act of animosity towards to US, such as insurrection or rebellion after the process of a Majority Vote. But unlike other rules of office, this is a decision that can actually be overruled after the fact via the courts.

There's also argument as to whether this clause even definitively applies to the President, not to even mention the fact that it's never been used before; so seeing as there's a large amount of discourse surrounding it politically both within office, and out- it's very unlikely that it'd lead to any definitive conclusions on the grounds of disqualification.

On another note: I doubt he'll even be definitively charged. The dude's rich, and can probably get out of any legal situation that he pleases. While I have no love for him as a governing official, I also think it's useless to go after him as much as we have. It's an endless source of controversy that never sees resolution.
They go after him because they fear he is exposing their system of control over us. The people are waking up. It's only a matter before the people rise up in unison and demand justice. It's already started.
 

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Happy indictment day #2!

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YOUR TURN, GEORGIA, HES ALL YOURS!
 

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They go after him because they fear he is exposing their system of control over us. The people are waking up. It's only a matter before the people rise up in unison and demand justice. It's already started.
Like five people showed up to protest his indictment bro. Getting harder and harder for you to find anyone to listen to your inane ramblings.
 
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Like five people showed up to protest his indictment bro. Getting harder and harder for you to find anyone to listen to your inane ramblings.
Let's keep believing you who pushed Russian collusion, Alfa Bank hoax, Mueller, both shampeachments, masks effectiveness, the jabs effectiveness, Hunter's laptop is disinformation, there are no Nazis in Ukraine, the Russians are losing the war, Trump is guilty of rape, campaign finance payments to Stormy Daniels.

You have such an amazing track record of telling the truth. You should work for the corporate media. Your lies would help you fit right in there.
 
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They go after him because they fear he is exposing their system of control over us.

The Government's always going to have a system of control over us. Doesn't matter if it's Republican or Democrat driven, the government does not have your best interests in mind, and it never will.

The people are waking up. It's only a matter before the people rise up in unison and demand justice. It's already started.

Go ahead then. I've reached the point where I don't really care all that much anymore as politics is mostly just a ton of people barking at each other with no intention of bringing the actions to back up their words. Whether this ends in resolvement, or ends up being another shit-show doesn't really matter as there's always someone else lined up and ready to take their place.
 

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The Government's always going to have a system of control over us. Doesn't matter if it's Republican or Democrat driven, the government does not have your best interests in mind, and it never will.
That is precisely the reason why we need to come together. This system of control is not written in the Constitution and the Founders warned us of this happening and what to do when it does.
Go ahead then. I've reached the point where I don't really care all that much anymore as politics is mostly just a ton of people barking at each other with no intention of bringing the actions to back up their words. Whether this ends in resolvement, or ends up being another shit-show doesn't really matter as there's always someone else lined up and ready to take their place.
Change will only happen when people reach their precipice. But yes, what you say has been true in the past.
 

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You have such an amazing track record of telling the truth.
Indeed, you just don't like to hear it as someone who sucks on a stubby carrot during all days that end in Y.

That is precisely the reason why we need to come together.
Bro you've been in a million threads advocating for unconstitutional discriminatory laws. Reaching Super Saiyan levels of disingenuous bullshit now.
 
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If you are going quote me, then quote me. You conveniently left all of this out.
It was purposefully left out yes, because three quarters of it is factual and was never in dispute, while the other quarter is just more disingenuous bullshit and words you put in my mouth.

Just discriminatory laws against groomers.
See that there is a can of worms or monkey's paw type situation. A higher-than-average number of your political and religious leaders are pedos, so they're never gonna write legislation that might come back to bite them in the ass. What you mean to say is "I want to discriminate against gays and transgender individuals via law," which is again, unconstitutional. Try moving to Russia if that fact causes you so much pain.
 
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