Croc is the next 90s mascot platformer to get a remaster

Metoroid0 · Jun 9, 2023

pedro702 said:
played both croc 1 and 2 recently on ps1 and they are still fun imo, the worst part is the tank controls for a 3d platformer.

if you love it you love it in its entirety, including tank controlls.

hamohamo · Jun 9, 2023

this game has levels designs that look very extremely damn good.

Spider_Man · Jun 9, 2023

FAST6191 said:
Awkward 3d transition era games are getting remakes.... wow I am old.

This is the stuff we should be seeing that gets remade/remastered and brought into todays time.

Even games from the 2D generation could easily do with being re invented, it gets boring seeing the same rehashed shit year after year.

Not so called remasters of games that were from the console before.

Cha0tic · Jun 9, 2023

I would play the heck out of Croc on a ps1 demo that also had parappa the rapper and armored core

CMDreamer · Jun 10, 2023

Was this really necessary? :wtf:

Hope they don't ruin the experience of playing this game again by keeping the same playing controls used back then (cof, cof, Spyro?), when 3D games (on PSX/PS One) didn't were the best on that matter.

OldManLav · Jun 10, 2023

One of my first Sega Saturn games. Still own it!

It was like what you get if you took Crash Bandicoot and gave it the controls of a 90's-era Resident Evil game. Ah, the memories...

stanleyopar2000 · Jun 10, 2023

Vorde said:
Wait until we hear about the Jaz Jackrabbit remake a few months from now

sighs in the ill-fated Jazz Jackrabbit 3(D)

urbanman2004 · Jun 11, 2023

Looking forward to platforming as that goofy looking 90s game mascot, lol. Brings back fond memories from my childhood.

Spring_Spring · Nov 24, 2023

The original game is very hard in its later levels, I am not sure how fitting that is for today's audience.

PopcornSweetie · Nov 24, 2023

Spring_Spring said:
The original game is very hard in its later levels, I am not sure how fitting that is for today's audience.

Too bad for them then, git gud kids. People nowadays can't handle nothing. I expect a authentic 90s experience, just like how i remembered.

Spring_Spring · Nov 24, 2023

PopcornSweetie said:
Too bad for them then, git gud kids. People nowadays can't handle nothing. I expect a authentic 90s experience, just like how i remembered.

I have a feeling they will make the controls easy, which is where most of the game's challenge is.

Marc_LFD · Nov 24, 2023

Spring_Spring said:
The original game is very hard in its later levels, I am not sure how fitting that is for today's audience.

I remember the Saturn cover, but that's about it for me when it comes to Croc. I might give it a chance now on the Saturn.

Oh, it was also on PlayStation and PC: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croc:_Legend_of_the_Gobbos

The PS1 version looks slightly better, imo.

And there was a Game Boy Color game as well:

Gameplay is a bit off, I don't like what I'm seeing.

The Real Jdbye · Nov 24, 2023

Spring_Spring said:
The original game is very hard in its later levels, I am not sure how fitting that is for today's audience.

Kids nowadays play Dark Souls. They'll be fine.

Spring_Spring · Nov 24, 2023

Marc_LFD said:
I remember the Saturn cover, but that's about it for me when it comes to Croc. I might give it a chance now on the Saturn.

Oh, it was also on PlayStation and PC: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croc:_Legend_of_the_Gobbos

The PS1 version looks slightly better, imo.

And there was a Game Boy Color game as well:

Gameplay is a bit off, I don't like what I'm seeing.

That game boy color version makes, what shall we say, a limited amount of sense, but it is cool to hear chiptune versions of the music.

granville · Nov 24, 2023

PopcornSweetie said:
Too bad for them then, git gud kids. People nowadays can't handle nothing. I expect a authentic 90s experience, just like how i remembered.

I've played and beaten the game, 100%ed it in fact back in the day. I've also played and beaten a number of other notoriously difficult 80s and 90s games. Croc's difficulty doesn't come from the level design. Its the shitty controls, the camera and even ledge detection. Even compared to other more competent examples of tank controls in platforming (such as Jumping Flash for instance), it was really bad even for the standards of the time period it was released in. I would very much hope these issues are all addressed if the game ever gets a remaster.

Spring_Spring · Nov 24, 2023

Same I guess, but it would make it very easy.

granville · Nov 24, 2023

Spring_Spring said:
Same I guess, but it would make it very easy.

Yes it probably would trivialize a lot of it. But that's my point. The game's difficulty isn't from how the levels and platforms are constructed. But rather how poorly the game functions. This kind of "difficulty" is not a welcome sort. There are plenty of extremely challenging games out there, far moreso than Croc, that actually have functional controls and cameras.

Regarding the underwater sections for instance. Pretty much all of these are just wide linear tubes with a couple of minor obstacles that would be a cinch to get past if they were inserted into a game with competent swimming controls and camera system. If made in Mario 64's engine for instance, they'd be a lot easier. Mario 64 itself by comparison has more intricately designed underwater sections, and its own underwater areas would be made at least 10x more horrible if you inserted them into the Croc engine.

I don't think Croc would be a COMPLETE cakewalk near the end if they redid the controls. Though it would indeed make the game considerably easier. But as it stands, it's necessary. The game did not control well when it released, and it would be a complete embarrassment if a remaster released in such a state today.

PopcornSweetie · Nov 24, 2023

granville said:
I've played and beaten the game, 100%ed it in fact back in the day. I've also played and beaten a number of other notoriously difficult 80s and 90s games. Croc's difficulty doesn't come from the level design. Its the shitty controls, the camera and even ledge detection. Even compared to other more competent examples of tank controls in platforming (such as Jumping Flash for instance), it was really bad even for the standards of the time period it was released in. I would very much hope these issues are all addressed if the game ever gets a remaster.

It would be awesome if they fixed that. But that would crank down the difficulty of the original. So it would be best to have some kind of original mode.

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Spring_Spring said:
I have a feeling they will make the controls easy, which is where most of the game's challenge is.

I think they prob will too. But a original mode is nice to have too.

pedro702 · Nov 24, 2023

PopcornSweetie said:
If they fix that, it would be awesome. A slight annoyance, but doable.

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That would kinda ruin the fun i guess?

How would making a game with good controls would be bad ad ruin the fun? lol seriously people nowadays are getting worse and worse.

PopcornSweetie · Nov 24, 2023

pedro702 said:
How would making a game with good controls would be bad ad ruin the fun? lol seriously people nowadays are getting worse and worse.

Exactly. You are the prime example of this. :rofl2:

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