You don't need to be a leftist to understand scientific and medical advancements made throughout the years, you just need to not be a moron.
That’s debatable - there absolutely are some that do. For God’s sake, congresswoman Cortez posted an instruction manual on how to perform an at-home abortion (not safe to do, by the way) and online influencers like keffals absolutely distribute information on how to get HRT medication on the sly, let’s not pretend that doesn’t happen. There’s nothing Americans like more than popping prescription pills without a prescription. We’re also talking about this in the context of the U.S. healthcare system, where overprescribing is the norm. Apparently every child with mild behavioural issues deserves some Ritalin so long as the parents are willing to foot the bill.
Couldn't agree more, I actually had a high school friend who died from DIY HRT, it's really scary how many people I've seen pushing others to do DIY transition. What these lawmakers want to do isn't going to stop that aspect, it may actually increase it.
I can't find that, can you link me to it?
Even if that happens, that's not how the system is set to work. You shouldn't stop diabetes medication if people buy it on the side to get slim in a dangerous way, you need to patch the system, make sure the people who need it have access to it and make sure the sales are restricted to the rest.
You can get Plan C online, apparently the WHO gives it their blessing. Of course there’s always a chance things go sideways and a person has to go to the hospital, in which case the recommendation seems to be “just lie and say you’re having a miscarriage, they can’t tell the difference”. Smart.
I see someone’s been reading about semaglutide. You can get that online too, with relative ease.
You’re moving the goalpost. It is extremely irresponsible to recommend that people medicate at home using medicine that can potentially make them bleed out. Let’s brush that under the carpet though and pretend that the cause justifies the means - it is exponentially more dangerous to recommend that you don’t tell your doctor what drugs are in your system as you’re bleeding out in the hospital, at the bare minimum you should tell the ER staff that you’ve munched on DIY abortion medicine and gave yourself a boo-boo. This information is critical if you want to, y’know, live. Better yet, instead of recommending people buy medicine from “reputable sources online”, which often times ends up being “a guy on eBay” because people are cheap skates and will shop around instead of going for the recommended source, how’s about we recommend buying a bus ticket? There’s a large number of states that permit abortion - after the repeal the matter went to state legislatures, the procedure wasn’t banned across the nation. Can we meet half-way and agree that recommending people self-medicate is irresponsible? Because it is.
For public record, I’m in favour of just about any medicine being available over the counter. If you want to buy diabetes medicine to lose some weight, go for it - it would be nice if it was just there, at the pharmacy, available for you to buy if you so please. The same applies to *abortion pills*, by the way - I don’t have a problem with people taking them, that’s not the issue. The issue is incentivising or disincentivising certain behaviours. If I give you specific advice, I accept a degree of responsibility for the end result. If you do it to yourself, that’s on you - scroll up to my funny cocaine example. I assumed that part of my position would be obvious just based on that alone - rolling across town, I quote, “coked up to the gills” is probably more dangerous than popping an abortion pill. I just wouldn’t lie in the hospital if I needed medical attention, that’s stupid if the objective is to survive the ordeal. I wouldn’t give people medical advice because I’m not a healthcare professional - that’s not my forte. Go to a doctor, ask them.
The constitution guarantees freedom of movement, particularly for interstate commerce (which private healthcare is), and doctor-patient confidentiality usually protects people’s identities, this is a HIPAA issue. I’m not making any statements in regards to any particular piece of legislation, I am merely saying that making such recommendations is irresponsible, and it is.
And all I'm saying that you have to take the account the context. The constitution means very little if the supreme court side with these state legislations.
I’ll give you a bit of context right now. Here’s your argument - it is not reasonable to advocate that someone just buys a bus ticket and goes to see a medical professional because there are potential legal ramifications if anyone finds out, however it is justifiable and reasonable to post instruction manuals on how to perform a potentially very dangerous medical procedure at home without a medical professional present and how to lie to doctors against your own interest, which is in violation of the exact same laws and carries the same legal ramifications (hence the paragraph about opsec) with the added possible ramifications of serious injury or death. That sounds very reasonable.
https://www.ansirh.org/research/ongoing/over-counter-medication-abortion
Uh afaik medical abortion is not available OTC, just plan B which is totally different
Paracetamol is also considered safe to use until you use an excessive amount of it to achieve effects other than intended and your liver shuts down. In mainland Europe they don’t use Plan C for at-home abortions, they use arthritis medicine, the name escapes me right now. That also works, but you probably shouldn’t try it. FDA approval as “safe to use” doesn’t mean that it’s a tic-tac - if your position is defending at home abortions then the conversation breaks down here because that stance is unreasonable. There’s a reason certain procedures are performed at hospitals, not at home. If you’re asking me if it should be available to purchase by the public my answer is always yes on principle, but I’m not going to recommend it if you’re not qualified to use it.
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