2nd Amendment in the United States

mrdude · Jun 1, 2023

WalterSlovotsky said:
Sometimes I imagine a fictitious world where gunpowder and combustion weapons were never invented, or, some magical or mystical event that removes all projectile weapons from the planet permanently.

I just imagine how that world would be, if NO ONE had a weapon that could kill a person by simply pulling a trigger or pushing a button. A modern world in 2023, where if you wanted to initiate combat, you had to do it hand-to-hand.

There would be far less conflict.

No there wouldn't. You should study some history. We've had spears, knives, swords, axe's, longbows, trebuchet's and all manner of weapons. If you get rid of guns, people will just find another way to kill you. Maybe try reading about the Mongol's, The perisans, The Assyrians, The Ottomans or many of the other empires that have existed long before guns were a thing.

If I was going to be killed - I'd prefer it was quick with a bullet to the head rather than be hacked up with a sword.

Watch this and then you'll change your mind, you'd wish you had a gun to defend yourself.

Xzi · Jun 1, 2023

Smoker1 said:
See above Post.

No I fully understand why they felt it was necessary at the time, but a couple caveats would've been immensely helpful nonetheless. Every piece of shit in this country who wants to do harm to it now has a firearm, if not several. Except in the few states with red flag laws, nearly every domestic/child abuser has a firearm, if not several.

Smoker1 · Jun 1, 2023

mrdude said:
No there wouldn't. You should study some history. We've had spears, knives, swords, axe's, longbows, trebuchet's and all manner of weapons. If you get rid of guns, people will just find another way to kill you. Maybe try reading about the Mongol's, The perisans, The Assyrians, The Ottomans or many of the other empires that have existed long before guns were a thing.

If I was going to be killed - I'd prefer it was quick with a bullet to the head rather than be hacked up with a sword.

Or die fighting back, able to Protect and Defend myself, my Family and Home.

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Xzi said:
No I fully understand why they felt it was necessary at the time, but a couple caveats would've been immensely helpful nonetheless. Every piece of shit in this country who wants to do harm to it now has a firearm, if not several. Except in the few states with red flag laws, nearly every domestic/child abuser has a firearm, if not several.

Look up Carol M. Bowne from New Jersey 2015

Xzi · Jun 1, 2023

Smoker1 said:
Or die fighting back, able to Protect and Defend myself, my Family and Home.

Or you could just die of old age after living a long, happy life. Y'know, like they do in every sane country on Earth.

Smoker1 said:
Look up Carol M. Bowne from New Jersey 2015

I'm not interested in an anecdote, the problems I listed are very real and very widespread. Besides public mass shootings, it's extremely common for men to shoot their families and then themselves. Reaching for your loaded gun being just as easy as scratching your nuts turns into a real problem if you spend most of your day watching rageporn on Faux News or similar.

_47iscool · Jun 1, 2023

Smoker1 said:
Because, at the time after the Revolutionary War, those from England thought they could control us. Wanted us to Pay them Taxes, bend to their Will. Also, wanted us to turn over our Weapons, that they would Protect us, under England's Rule. We wanted to determine our Future. So we fought and won against them. They put the 2nd Amendment in place, so The People could not only Protect and Defend themselves, but also fight against Oppression, and Tyrannical Threats, either Foreign or Domestic. That 1 Freedom, keeps our other Freedoms secure

And just look at the clown running Canada.

Also, check out what Yuri Bezmenov said about American leftists:

End_eR · Jun 1, 2023

_47iscool said:
Mass stabbings is not the only thing.
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I really don't like what you're implying with these two images back-to-back.

_47iscool · Jun 1, 2023

End_eR said:
I really don't like what you're implying with these two images back-to-back.

Apparently you've never heard of the rotherham scandal.

End_eR · Jun 1, 2023

_47iscool said:
Apparently you've never heard of the rotherham scandal.

I have. Don't see how it's relevant to your implication that immigrants commit more sexual assaults.

_47iscool · Jun 1, 2023

End_eR said:
I have. Don't see how it's relevant to your implication that immigrants commit more sexual assaults.

End_eR · Jun 1, 2023

_47iscool said:
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Wait a minute...

The rape gang...

Does rape?

Your deductive skills are truly something. I never would have known that rapists did that sort of thing otherwise.

sombrerosonic · Jun 1, 2023

_47iscool said:
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I can taste the pixels

zekro94 said:
My opinion is that the 2nd amendment should be eliminated and gun shops closed. Yeah, sure criminals would still be able to get guns ilegally but not the average joe, it only takes a bad day to become a criminal having access to guns. Stress, depression and anxiety can get the better of us so I think not having gun shops would help in reducing shootings (I'm not american so I'm sure most people will disagree with me)

Example of area that has these laws but are hellholes: England (Stabby Stabby)and Mexico (Remember the cartel?)

concept8192 · Jul 1, 2023

I would like to mention, one reason people seek to stop everyone from having guns is that it's much harder and slower to kill a mass amount of people with a knife than an assault weapon.
Of course there'll always be criminals that want to kill, that's unavoidable. But if you're truly only protecting yourself like I've heard pro-gun people say, you don't need a weapon that could defend you from more than maybe 2 or 3 people, which a knife would protect you from a criminal that (in this theoretical situation) also wasn't allowed to have a firearm

The Catboy · Jul 1, 2023

_47iscool said:
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Can you provide more than this pixelated mess? I literally can't read this

Smoker1 · Jul 1, 2023

What about Criminals who get their Weapons Illegally??? Highly doubt this Guy got his Weapons that do not have Serial Numbers from a Gun Shop or a Store.....especially in KOMMIEFORNIA
https://www.kcra.com/article/winter...ads-not-guilty-to-felony-gun-charges/43922606

lolcatzuru · Jul 1, 2023

Xzi said:
TLDR: Trump is the only president to ever threaten the seizure of firearms without due process. Ammosexuals ruined guns for the rest of us and now we have an average of nearly two mass shootings a day, over twenty mass shootings on Memorial Day weekend alone. Somebody should probably do something about that, and three-fourths of Americans agree we need more comprehensive/universal background checks at the minimum.

i agree, liberals are the biggest problem with this.

concept8192 · Jul 1, 2023

Smoker1 said:
What about Criminals who get their Weapons Illegally??? Highly doubt this Guy got his Weapons that do not have Serial Numbers from a Gun Shop or a Store.....especially in KOMMIEFORNIA
https://www.kcra.com/article/winter...ads-not-guilty-to-felony-gun-charges/43922606

A lot of criminals do get their weapons completely legally before commiting their crimes too. So making that impossible would help.
That doesn't make much sense in my opinion. At least illegal guns are illegal and can be shut down, letting criminals get guns legally means they can't be charged with it at least.
I'd like this thread to not end with me talking to a brick wall, but I don't have high hopes of that because it seems like you guys have many preconceived biases. (Why did you call it Kommiefornia???)

mituzora · Jul 1, 2023

I know it's a cliche, but look at drugs; the ones that are outright illegal are still constantly being consumed despite it being illegal. People who want to harm will always find a way to harm. I remember reading or hearing somewhere (don't ask for source because I don't have it) that places like England which have banned guns still have a massive issue with violent crimes, just instead of using guns, they use stuff like chemicals to torture and burn people to death instead.

Yes, the US has some issues with guns, but outright banning guns isn't going to fix a damn thing with mass shootings.; Instead we need find a way to get people the help they need before they're pushed over the edge to kill someone. the VAST majority of people don't want to hurt each other, and if we can get the help to the people who feel the need to hurt someone, then violent crimes will drop.

Smoker1 · Jul 1, 2023

Exactly. You can get a Vehicle easily, and use it to run down lots of People. What would stop someone from grabbing or getting a large Vehicle, go to a Mall, or School and run over as many as possible before being stopped???? There are those who have run over People, yet no one has demanded a Ban on Vehicles, why is that????

zekro94 · Jul 1, 2023

I don't get americans and their love of guns. I see them as unnecessary, as something that regular folks shouldn't have access to, but then people start with whatabotisms like owning a car or other things. It really seems that americans fear their guns being taken away, like having a gun is some sort of "necessary human right"
My question is: How many times have people used their guns in order to defend themselves? in a stresful situation one can grab his gun and just kill an inocent person

concept8192 · Jul 1, 2023

zekro94 said:
I don't get americans and their love of guns. I see them as unnecessary, as something that regular folks shouldn't have access to, but then people start with whatabotisms like owning a car or other things. It really seems that americans fear their guns being taken away, like having a gun is some sort of "necessary human right"
My question is: How many times have people used their guns in order to defend themselves? in a stresful situation one can grab his gun and just kill an inocent person

These are my thoughts exactly. Unlike a car, gun has no alternate usage other than maybe hunting (which you still don't need an assault rifle to do)

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