Hacking USB Loader GX

blackb0x · May 29, 2023

kokenhalliwell said:
Hi! I love the Blackmod version and my Wii ❤❤❤ are there news about it getting merged with the official version anytime soon?

I guess you mean the blackb0x version? That now is the official version.

AlivE_ said:
Hey guys. I use neek mode for some problematic games like "Castelvania ReBirth". But 480p pixel patch does not work in this mode. Is there a solution to this problem? Below is an example of "Contra ReBirth", EmuNAN Chanel Mode Neek / Full

The easiest solution might be to install that game to your real NAND, since then the loader can patch it in various ways.

hadi aulia said:
Anyone have problem with prince of persia forgoten sands on virtual wii?

That game has anti-piracy checks, so have you fully disabled cheats or resolution patches? Maybe reset the loader and the game to their default settings?

I can confirm that the game works correctly for me on both a Wii and vWii.

hadi aulia · May 29, 2023

blackb0x said:
That game has anti-piracy checks, so have you fully disabled cheats or resolution patches? Maybe reset the loader and the game to their default settings?

I can confirm that the game works correctly for me on both a Wii and vWii.

Ok ill try reset the loader

Nomado · May 30, 2023

@blackbox, I found a bug with controllers. It happens with every controller I tested so far which are Wii U Pro Controller, Wii Classic Controller, Wii Remote. On these controllers - and + buttons are used to scroll left and right. Holding these buttons keep scrolling left or right. But if I press "+" and immediately press "-", it keeps scrolling to the right as long as I hold "-" button. But it doesn't happen when pressing "-" then holding "+". Can you look into this?

phantzm · May 31, 2023

if anyone even still manages this forum, why does the app show up empty? ive watched videos and it shows for other people too but it goes away after about a second after everything loads. image below is all that i get, even if i wait for an hour.

blackb0x · May 31, 2023

Nomado said:
Holding these buttons keep scrolling left or right. But if I press "+" and immediately press "-", it keeps scrolling to the right as long as I hold "-" button. But it doesn't happen when pressing "-" then holding "+". Can you look into this?

It looks like the loader doesn't expect you to press both of them buttons at the same time, especially on a Wiimote where you'd normally hold it with one hand and use your thumb to press the buttons.

I'll look into if this can be improved, but it'll be low priority since the issue can easily be avoided by lifting your thumb up off of the button before your press another button.

phantzm said:
why does the app show up empty? ive watched videos and it shows for other people too but it goes away after about a second

A delay can happen with r1272 and older if you've got a large collection of games. And a 2~ delay might be noticeable with r1281 the first time you boot the loader or if you add new games to your storage device via a PC, since the loader will rebuild it's cache so that subsequent boots are much faster.

In your case it seems like the loaders either struggling to read your USB storage device or your SD card is write protected. So first you should check that your SD card is writable and then check if the loader boots correctly with your USB storage device disconnected.

It'd be useful to know if you're using a USB hard drive or a USB flash drive and what version of the loader you're using. And I'd assume that you've followed this guide to install the d2x cIOS?

Nomado · May 31, 2023

Thanks. So after pressing "+" then holding "-", plus button doesn't need to be held once this starts. As long as minus is held it will keep scrolling to the right. I think just pressing plus then pressing minus while taking finger off plus button without having them pressed together also produces this maybe its just me switching to minus before contact with plus is released though.

phantzm · May 31, 2023

@blackb0x
Yes I have installed d2x, and it is a flash drive. I can't use an SD due to the fact that it's a Wii Mini. Also, it's the newest update as of 5/30/2023. I don't have any spare hard drives except for a dead internal HDD, so this is all I've got to work with. Do you know of any USB Loader GX alternatives that might work better with flash drives/wont brick my wii? A lot of people have told me that it's very easy to brick a Wii Mini so I just want to make sure.

blackb0x · May 31, 2023

Nomado said:
I think just pressing plus then pressing minus while taking finger off plus button without having them pressed together also produces this maybe its just me switching to minus before contact with plus is released though.

If I remove my thumb from either button then it immediately stops scrolling. So I was only able to replicate the issue by continuing to hold a button while I started to press the other button.

phantzm said:
Do you know of any USB Loader GX alternatives that might work better with flash drives/wont brick my wii? A lot of people have told me that it's very easy to brick a Wii Mini so I just want to make sure.

I could guide you through editing the xml and config files to force the loader to boot with IOS58, but it'd be quicker for you to try WiiFlow Lite, since I believe that boots with IOS58 by default. But if the d2x cIOS doesn't like your flash drive then games might not work anyway.

phantzm · May 31, 2023

blackb0x said:
If I remove my thumb from either button then it immediately stops scrolling. So I was only able to replicate the issue by continuing to hold a button while I started to press the other button.

I could guide you through editing the xml and config files to force the loader to boot with IOS58, but it'd be quicker for you to try WiiFlow Lite, since I believe that boots with IOS58 by default. But if the d2x cIOS doesn't like your flash drive then games might not work anyway.

WiiFlow just gets stuck in a loading loop for some reason, the xml/config files might be the only solution.

zigoraty · May 31, 2023

I have a 64gb 2.0 pendrive (sandisk cruzer fit) in fat32 and I never had problems with usbloadergx, I recently bought two 128gb 3.1 pendrives (sandisk ultra fit 3.1) and formatted them in fat32, one of the pendrives is not detected by usbloadergx, and the another is recognized but when opening a game or closing the loader it gives me a black screen and the Vwii crashes. The solution was to format one of the pendrives in "wbfs" format through wiibackupmanager and now it is working without problems.

phantzm · May 31, 2023

zigoraty said:
I have a 64gb 2.0 pendrive (sandisk cruzer fit) in fat32 and I never had problems with usbloadergx, I recently bought two 128gb 3.1 pendrives (sandisk ultra fit 3.1) and formatted them in fat32, one of the pendrives is not detected by usbloadergx, and the another is recognized but when opening a game or closing the loader it gives me a black screen and the Vwii crashes. The solution was to format one of the pendrives in "wbfs" format through wiibackupmanager and now it is working without problems.

I just tried that and now I can't access it as it's an unrecognized file system.

wiiLotos · May 31, 2023

Hi All,

I was wondering if anyone has ran into this issue where games no longer show up when wanting to reset back to the USB Loader GX menu from a GameCube game? I'm using the latest R1281 release.

Some other settings that maybe matter is that i'm using Priiloader to boot directly into usb loader gx skipping the wii system menu.

Edit: game storage is on a HDD, NAND games do appear.

blackb0x · May 31, 2023

phantzm said:
WiiFlow just gets stuck in a loading loop for some reason, the xml/config files might be the only solution.

If WiiFlow can't boot either then forcing IOS58 might not work. But you can try for yourself by opening up meta.xml in notepad, removing the two lines to enable arguments and then changing --ios=249 to --ios=58. Or you can go the other route and keep the IOS set to 249 but change the boot IOS from 58 to 249.

zigoraty said:
The solution was to format one of the pendrives in "wbfs" format through wiibackupmanager and now it is working without problems.

I don't know if it'd work, but NTFS might also be an option.

wiiLotos said:
Some other settings that maybe matter is that i'm using Priiloader to boot directly into usb loader gx skipping the wii system menu.

I know that Priiloader doesn't pass arguments stored in meta.xml to the loader correctly, so depending on your settings maybe that's got something to do with it.

If you've got the loaders UNEO channel forwarder installed then you can download this zip file and extract uneoboot.dol to the root of your SD card. Then boot to Priiloader and install that DOL file instead.

I'd also recommend using Priiloader 0.10.0-beta2.

zigoraty · May 31, 2023

phantzm said:
I just tried that and now I can't access it as it's an unrecognized file system.

You can only access it through wiibackupmanager. the storage is exclusive only to wii games, it is similar to the storage you use on the wiiu, which is exclusive to it and you cannot access it.

Kirby6417 · May 31, 2023

@zigoraty

I wanna mention one thing I never hear people talk about when it comes to storage devices, maybe it could help you.

SD cards I format with guiformat work perfectly; but when I didn’t use guiformat, some apps would fail to read them. WiiMC was the main one, but I might have had trouble with EmuNAND/NEEK stuff on the USB drive as well. I believe i always format FAT32 with 32kb clusters. I’ve never had to do WBFS or any other format.

Also, I’ve heard USB flash drives are finicky with Wii but let me say this: I’ve modded many Wiis using a microSD card in the USB slot (with a small converter piece obviously) and it’s been amazing. I just use SanDisk microSD cards and any converter. I’ve tested up to 512GB and never had a single issue.

zigoraty · May 31, 2023

Kirby6417 said:
@zigoraty

SD cards I format with guiformat work perfectly; but when I didn’t use guiformat, some apps would fail to read them. WiiMC was the main one, but I might have had trouble with EmuNAND/NEEK stuff on the USB drive as well. I believe i always format FAT32 with 32kb clusters. I’ve never had to do WBFS or any other format.

Thanks, I'll do a test later

phantzm · May 31, 2023

blackb0x said:
If WiiFlow can't boot either then forcing IOS58 might not work. But you can try for yourself by opening up meta.xml in notepad, removing the two lines to enable arguments and then changing --ios=249 to --ios=58. Or you can go the other route and keep the IOS set to 249 but change the boot IOS from 58 to 249.

I don't know if it'd work, but NTFS might also be an option.

I know that Priiloader doesn't pass arguments stored in meta.xml to the loader correctly, so depending on your settings maybe that's got something to do with it.

If you've got the loaders UNEO channel forwarder installed then you can download this zip file and extract uneoboot.dol to the root of your SD card. Then boot to Priiloader and install that DOL file instead.

I'd also recommend using Priiloader 0.10.0-beta2.

changing it to ios=58 didn't work, and i'm not sure what you meant by "Or you can go the other route and keep the IOS set to 249 but change the boot IOS from 58 to 249.".

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zigoraty said:
You can only access it through wiibackupmanager. the storage is exclusive only to wii games, it is similar to the storage you use on the wiiu, which is exclusive to it and you cannot access it.

how am I meant to access the /apps/ folder then? i can only do .ciso, .iso, .wbfs, .zip, .bz2, .bzip2, .rar, .7z, .7zip, or .001?

wiiLotos · Jun 1, 2023

blackb0x said:
I know that Priiloader doesn't pass arguments stored in meta.xml to the loader correctly, so depending on your settings maybe that's got something to do with it.

If you've got the loaders UNEO channel forwarder installed then you can download this zip file and extract uneoboot.dol to the root of your SD card. Then boot to Priiloader and install that DOL file instead.

I'd also recommend using Priiloader 0.10.0-beta2.

I made a few changes and now have no issues resetting from a GameCube game. For anyone else wondering or having the same issue I did the following:

1) Updated to Priiloader beta-2 0.10.0
2) Used the UNEO loader dol file listed as my selected "installed file" in Priiloader

And the last change I made which may or may not be affected by the above -

3) I moved everything to an SD card to use the new SD loader capabilities.

Thanks blackb0x!

blackb0x · Jun 1, 2023

phantzm said:
and i'm not sure what you meant by "Or you can go the other route and keep the IOS set to 249 but change the boot IOS from 58 to 249."

Instead of changing --ios=249 to --ios=58 keep it set to 249 and change --bootios=58 to --bootios=249 instead. So then the loader will immediately reload to a cIOS before it even attempts to access your storage devices.

If you've got no hidden partitions and you've tried to format the flash drive to FAT32 (via Wii Backup Manager) or NTFS and it still doesn't work then unfortunately it seems like your flash drive isn't compatible with the Wii.

wiiLotos said:
And the last change I made which may or may not be affected by the above

It was likely the UNEO DOL file that got it working. But the Priiloader update is good to have since older versions (e.g. 0.9.1) can't check for updates and the new hacks_hash.ini added the option to remove the deflicker filter.

phantzm · Jun 1, 2023

I may be a bit lost, which meta.xml? there are a few @blackb0x

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