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'In the fresh remarks, Putin continued his prior theme of a turn from unipolar to multi-polar world order, based on the decline of the United States and West. He said as translated in state media:

"Western globalist elites are provoking chaos by rekindling old and inciting new conflicts, implementing a policy of so-called containment, while undermining any alternative, sovereign paths of development. Thus, they are desperately trying to preserve the hegemony and power that are slipping out of their grasp, trying to keep countries and peoples in the grip of a neo-colonial order."

He blasted this Western "hegemony" as what in the end will result in global stagnation. Further he said:

"NATO's war machine is moving, approaching Russia's borders closely... Russia has been trying for 30 years to negotiate NATO non-expansion to the east..."

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"The so-called collective West is deliberately destroying the European security system, putting together new military alliances. The NATO bloc is expanding East, building up its military infrastructure, deploying missile defense systems and increasing the strike capabilities of its offensive forces."

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"The American reckless gamble in relation to Taiwan is not just a visit by an individual irresponsible politician, but part of a purposeful, conscious US strategy to destabilize… the situation in the region and the world, a brazen demonstration of disrespect for the sovereignty of other countries and for its international obligations. We see this as a carefully planned provocation," Putin said.'

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopoliti...refully-planned-provocation-destabilize-putin
 

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That's why I started practising shooting with Air Gun Remington. Lens and laser aim might be adequate modern arsenal weapon add-ons/modifications like in Ratchet & Clank videogame series since Ratchet & Clank 2/Going Commando for Sony PlayStation 2. So my shooting distance might be better and more accurate,correct,clear,proper. I heeard allegedly my own great-grandfather was serving in Werhmacht to Nazi Germans during World War 2. In case of World War 3(it's the only thing that should never really happen besides Half-Life 3,Jazz Jackrabbit 3D,Sonic the Hedgehog 4 Episode 3,Sonic Adventure 3-modern entertainment in nutshell in videogame history).
 

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Is it clear to you all now, that this was never an "unprovoked" war of aggression on Russia's part. NATO has known for a very, very long time that Ukraine was Russia's red-line.

https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/08MOSCOW265_a.html

Remember when they told you Donald Trump was going to get us into a Nuclear war, and you listened? We've never been closer with Joseph R. Biden in office. It's NATO expansion and the hubris of those in Washington that got us here.

For those hungry for a war, it's there if you want it.

 
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Is it clear to you all now, that this was never an "unprovoked" war of aggression on Russia's part. NATO has known for a very, very long time that Ukraine was Russia's red-line.

https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/08MOSCOW265_a.html

Remember when they told you Donald Trump was going to get us into a Nuclear war, and you listened? We've never been closer with Joseph R. Biden in office. It's NATO expansion and the hubris of those in Washington that got us here.

For those hungry for a war, it's there if you want it.

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Or you know, Russia (Putin) can just fuck right off and back away from Ukraine and let them decide their own faith?
 

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Or you know, Russia (Putin) can just fuck right off and back away from Ukraine and let them decide their own faith?
That's what they've been trying to do since the end of the Cold War. You should know what happened before current events before weighing in with such dug in position.

Search Rand Corporation Russia. Read.

Russia is looking out for itself, as should every other country on this planet.

What happened in 2014 after Ukraine elected a President that wanted to work with Russia & the West? A coup. Led by who? Who is Victoria Nuland? What does her husband do? What position is she in now?

Do some research and lighten up, especially when you're so ignorant on a topic.




 

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Russia is looking out for itself, as should every other country on this planet.
Russia is "looking out for itself" by invading Ukraine in the exact same way the US was "looking out for itself" by invading Iraq and Afghanistan. Which is to say, not at all. Putin is sacrificing the lives of countless Russians and Ukrainians solely out of greed and narcissism, the same motivations that drove GWB and Cheney. Capitalism is a helluva drug, and state-controlled capitalism is even worse.
 

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The Putin ambassador to the UK says that they have enormous resources and haven't yet started to act seriously. truth or lie?
They're like two drafts into the war and a lot of their soldiers are being sent to the front line without weapons or supplies. Russia's propaganda machine has always been far stronger than their military, and they're at least (just now) starting to get tired of sending their young men into a meatgrinder. I even read an article that the Kremlin is starting to mention peace talks again, even if conditional it means they recognize they're operating from a position of weakness.
 
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Who blew up the dam?

Let's look at the information publicly available prior to it being destroyed.

https://web.archive.org/web/2022122...29/ukraine-offensive-kharkiv-kherson-donetsk/
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https://www.businessinsider.com/rus...m-planned-false-flag-attack-zelenskyy-2022-10

Predictive programming to lay the groundwork for when they need to blow it as their own last resort, they can blame it on the Russians to gain sympathy from those who are getting their information from the NATO aligned MSM.

Why did Ukraine have to use their last resort? Because their long anticipated counter-offensive kicked off with extremely tragic consequences. In two days the Ukrainian forces lost approx. ~2,000-2,500 KIA. Russia on the other hand, had 73 KIA and ~250 wounded.

I had to degrade quality and cut a little from the beginning and end to shrink it down to 50mb.

Realize how much you are being lied to about what's going on in Ukraine. "Unprovoked," "Ukraine is winning", "Wagner is a bunch of criminals taken out of Russian prisons..." I guess all those convicts defeated a NATO funded and trained military force in the Ukrainian Army, or, it was a fucking lie.

The Ukrainian military has no path to victory on the battlefield. The only thing left standing is the narrative.



 

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Who blew up the dam?
Rhetorical question.

The Ukrainian military has no path to victory on the battlefield.
You're hilarious. This shit's been deadlocked like a year and a half now, and the longer it drags on, the worse things get for Russia. Hell, they're about to get their entire air force blown out of the sky by Ukrainian pilots in F-16s. They never stood a chance with all their rusted-out Soviet-era garbage.
 
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