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Trump is being charged with 34 counts of falsification of business records.

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been hearing all day about how Bill slept with interns and Hillary .....idk they can really say what specific crime other than "emails".
But they get upset when I say " ok should of indicted them if you had the proof, no one is above the law"
lol they wanna say since they didn't charge Clintons, that Trump shouldn't be charged now...
 

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If Obama did even half the things Trump did, then maybe the comparison could have some merit. Trump is the only one that has been indicated.

I'm not comparing Obama and Trump. I'm comparing their respective cults and cult members.

Maybe some of you weren't old enough to really appreciate the weirdness. Or more likely, does weirdness have the capacity to see how weird it looks?

 

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I'm 37 and will happy say your same thing both sides claim is absolute bullshit.

No one is denying there were some weirdos who formed a cult of personality for democrat candidates and presidents but to try to equate it to the MAGA base is simply laughable.

Like comparing a water pistol to a rocket launcher.
 
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been hearing all day about how Bill slept with interns and Hillary .....idk they can really say what specific crime other than "emails".
But they get upset when I say " ok should of indicted them if you had the proof, no one is above the law"
lol they wanna say since they didn't charge Clintons, that Trump shouldn't be charged now...

As I understand it, Trump's indictment isn't about banging a pornstar, and isn't about paying her to keep it quiet. The press is calling that "hush money" but it's just a non-disclosure agreement and that happens all the time. The charges have to be about where the money came from, if it came from campaign funds, and how it was recorded. Trump's actual knowledge of any wrongdoing will also need to be proven. That's the answer to anyone bringing up Clinton. This ain't that.

And FWIW, Clinton wasn't really in trouble for having some sex time either. It was him committing perjury over it.
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I'm 37 and will happy say your same thing both sides claim is absolute bullshit.

No one is denying there were some weirdos who formed a cult of personality for democrat candidates and presidents but to try to equate it to the MAGA base is simply laughable.

Like comparing a water pistol to a rocket launcher.

You were only 21 years old or so then. Nobody at 21 thinks they're wrong or extreme. You probably thought Occupy Wall Street was awesome too.
 
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As I understand it, Trump's indictment isn't about banging a pornstar, and isn't about paying her to keep it quiet. The press is calling that "hush money" but it's just a non-disclosure agreement and that happens all the time. The charges have to be about where the money came from, if it came from campaign funds, and how it was recorded. Trump's actual knowledge of any wrongdoing will also need to be proven. That's the answer to anyone bringing up Clinton. This ain't that.

And FWIW, Clinton wasn't really in trouble for having some sex time either. It was him committing perjury over it.
yes Trump is not in trouble for ordering a SEX worker while his wife was present ... it stems off money issues
but 32-34 charges.... that a lot.. even if every check is separate it would only count 11ish... def guess there is some Racketing/Rico charges especially after rumors of Pecker and Weisselberg testifying last min
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I'm 37 and will happy say your same thing both sides claim is absolute bullshit.

No one is denying there were some weirdos who formed a cult of personality for democrat candidates and presidents but to try to equate it to the MAGA base is simply laughable.

Like comparing a water pistol to a rocket launcher.
yea I really can't compare a group of people wearing a "HOPE" t-shirt at a rally
Vs Claiming TRUMP is GOD PICKED and selling Thousands of these and hanging it up (NON- IRONICALLY )
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yes Trump is not in trouble for ordering a SEX worker while his wife was present ... it stems off money issues
but 32-34 charges.... that a lot.. even if every check is separate it would only count 11ish... def guess there is some Racketing/Rico charges especially after rumors of Pecker and Weisselberg testifying last min

It's pretty easy to rack up a long list of charges from relatively few acts, sounds like you're aware of that. The real question is whether the charges can hold up and be proven in a trial. The prosecutor can tell agrand jury only what he wants them to hear, doesn't have to tell them anything he doesn't want them to hear, doesn't have to tell them about technicalities that could negatively affect his ability to prosecute (for example statute of limitations, or the outcomes of prior attempts or investigations), and isn't limited by the rules of evidence. It's a 100% prosecutor-controlled presentation.
 
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Fair enough, but 15 years ain't shit when you're almost 56yo. That weirdness in 2008 is still very fresh in my mind. How old were you?
Just because you cling to shit from 15 years ago, doesn't mean everyone feels the same. It's not relevant today, you might as well be dragging something up from the Clinton administration too.
 

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I was expecting the hush money payment to be the least of Trump's problems in the coming slew of indictments, but thirty-four counts is a whole lot. A conviction here probably won't bar him from running for office, but holding this bloated cow carcass accountable for any of his criminal actions is a good start.
 
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He'll be fine.


Healthy response. Even if he's convicted it's most likely just money (fines) and a permanent sitdown in the recliner, which would be best for all of us too. And if we could convince good ol' Joe also that it's time to give it up, all the better.
 
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