Why do i have to go to school
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Why are you opening such Off-Topics every few minutes? Shouldnt you be at school?
This question might – sadly – be more justified than it ever should. Such a topic might disappear in EOF quickly, but I wouldn't dismiss the question entirely.
The obvious, easy answer would be: To learn! (*)
Humans are very complex lifeforms not limited to some fixed set of innate skills. But rather than only learn from own experience, we are additionally able to imagine, to plan and learn on abstract level combining different pieces of knowledge… just by talking, reading and thinking about them.
The complexity and amount of our knowledge and skills leads to the need for efficient knowledge transfer (and specialization because nobody can learn everything).
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Now to the (*) marking above:
Why did I say the question is partially justified, when there is objectively good reason for going to school (even if being at school might feel bad and like a waste of time for students at times)? That is because I get the impression that school, knowledge transfer, teaching are broken to a large extent… to the point where I personally would question if school is doing its job and if self-teaching with the help of books and the internet might become more efficient for many.
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School might be BS sometimes, but please try to educate yourself. If there's one thing we don't need in this world, then it is more of "Idiocracy".
Good luck and have fun!
The obvious, easy answer would be: To learn! (*)
Humans are very complex lifeforms not limited to some fixed set of innate skills. But rather than only learn from own experience, we are additionally able to imagine, to plan and learn on abstract level combining different pieces of knowledge… just by talking, reading and thinking about them.
The complexity and amount of our knowledge and skills leads to the need for efficient knowledge transfer (and specialization because nobody can learn everything).
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Now to the (*) marking above:
Why did I say the question is partially justified, when there is objectively good reason for going to school (even if being at school might feel bad and like a waste of time for students at times)? That is because I get the impression that school, knowledge transfer, teaching are broken to a large extent… to the point where I personally would question if school is doing its job and if self-teaching with the help of books and the internet might become more efficient for many.
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School might be BS sometimes, but please try to educate yourself. If there's one thing we don't need in this world, then it is more of "Idiocracy".
Good luck and have fun!
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I was raised to make a lifelong habit of learning. I was also removed from my 'high school within 6 months of starting due to trouble at school and home. my mother died when I was just fourteen and I was thrown out of our family home just after that. I went to a boarding school for two years and then another school for troubled students for another year. I invested the last year in having a tutor provided by the first school. This was the hardest. I have met several people since then that had home-schooling and the results were abysmal at best.
Then there is the social interaction that is healthy for one during their formative years.
There are only a few years, early on that our brains are in the prime state for absorbing new data/information, etc... Many choose these years to use drugs during these years, resulting in a reduced capacity to learn/absorb information.*
The final result was I received a diploma from the original high school. I didn't find out until almost twenty years later my name had been called upon grad day to go up and receive the diploma publicly.
* Do not take this to mean I am against drugs generally, it is simply a medical fact that marijuana particularly slows absorption/education Years Later I went to work for some Drs. as a professional hypnotherapist and after that developed a program about memory and education which I later taught at 50 schools throughout 30 school systems for many years. I was the very LAST person who thought (while in school) that formal education was important. I continued on to receive 3 associate's degrees and (deceitfully) put my drunk sister through school by completing her schoolwork while she lie drunk in bed for 4 years, in exchange for rent.
Far too much data on the internet is inaccurate, please don't use it as a substitute for a proper education. There are many more reasons but I have already blathered on too far.
Knowledge (alone) is NOT power, only potential power. Knowledge + action (persistent initiative) is power.
PS I apologize for this WALL -O-TEXT,
Then there is the social interaction that is healthy for one during their formative years.
There are only a few years, early on that our brains are in the prime state for absorbing new data/information, etc... Many choose these years to use drugs during these years, resulting in a reduced capacity to learn/absorb information.*
The final result was I received a diploma from the original high school. I didn't find out until almost twenty years later my name had been called upon grad day to go up and receive the diploma publicly.
* Do not take this to mean I am against drugs generally, it is simply a medical fact that marijuana particularly slows absorption/education Years Later I went to work for some Drs. as a professional hypnotherapist and after that developed a program about memory and education which I later taught at 50 schools throughout 30 school systems for many years. I was the very LAST person who thought (while in school) that formal education was important. I continued on to receive 3 associate's degrees and (deceitfully) put my drunk sister through school by completing her schoolwork while she lie drunk in bed for 4 years, in exchange for rent.
Far too much data on the internet is inaccurate, please don't use it as a substitute for a proper education. There are many more reasons but I have already blathered on too far.
Knowledge (alone) is NOT power, only potential power. Knowledge + action (persistent initiative) is power.
PS I apologize for this WALL -O-TEXT,
Depends on your country?
I mean... this could mean a whole other thing in the USA
I mean... this could mean a whole other thing in the USA
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School is not just a place to learn subjects, but the place you learn how to fit in society. Each school is a microcosmos with all the complexity of the everyday life represented. People who failed to adjust in school need to work extra hard to keep with adult responsabilities. School teaches you boredom, frustration and unfaireness, which run rampant in our world today.
Because you need a basic education and your parents need a babysitter.
Define "school life".
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in early schools you are fed preformatted knowledge,
in higher schools you learn how to aquire knowledge yourself
in higher schools you learn how to aquire knowledge yourself
Homeschool yourself and dedicate yourself to it.
Learning isn't supposed to always be fun, sometimes it is, other times it ain't. I used to be in favor of schools though in recent times due to the actions of teachers and politics, I don't support them anymore.
Learning isn't supposed to always be fun, sometimes it is, other times it ain't. I used to be in favor of schools though in recent times due to the actions of teachers and politics, I don't support them anymore.
"Learning" is the absolute main "function" of school, even though even most of the stuff you will forget it or you will never use it. I mostly learned from torturing myself, not from school. You can say it is for making friends but 1. I'm very lonely at school, i have almost no friends and all the time i am alone 2. Teachers quite literally do not like people having friends.
I would say because the government and you parents say to.
I would say because the government and you parents say to.
I am in agreement that school life is boring and to be honest, I really don't think it should be boring. Education doesn't have to be fun but it also doesn't have to be boring. I think that's something I've found rather troubling about the school, it is boring and thus information is only retained for as long since there's really nothing interesting to tether it with. Some of my best memories in school literally had nothing to do with my actual education. The purpose of school should be to educate people and should prepare them but it's been rather bastarded by standardized testing and making education a process of repeating over learning and finding ways to help students retain what they learned.
Making friends might be a nice bonus if it happens but I would probably put it as more learning to deal with other people that don't care about you, which is pretty good training for life (possibly some of the best you will get in school).
Or if you prefer marketing figured out probably a century ago now (certainly at a point where anybody in school today would have had their grandparents learn it in school if they studied marketing) that age, sex and location is a fairly pathetic metric (which is all that binds people in school) and you instead want to go for interests, compatible mindsets and such like if you want the good stuff. Might have once meant something but as we are not in medieval villages any more where your village (and baseline survival) probably was your whole world.
More empirically then people that are friends with those from high school (proper friends, not just turn up to weddings and funerals) rates are rather low, and those that might be tend not to have the best life outcomes.
I don't have a particular easy solution to that one; if I did I would probably be very rich and suicide, depression and despair rates would drop notably on a country wide/first world country worldwide level. Online is demonstrably weak for that in the long run so real world clubs, classes for fun, learning enough psychology to vet people quickly, learning enough stats to figure out where to look and hardening yourself enough to pull it off is all I can offer. In my case I like building and fixing things so surround myself by people that do the same thing, have done things in their lives (usually at not inconsiderable costs on the pain and suffering front) and are the embodiment of will be generous up until the point at which you cross them. If your interests however are not that then no clue how to do that for you beyond the cursory stuff I mentioned already.
Teachers not liking people having friends... that is a new one. I could see it as a side effect of some of the warped views popular in the profession at present however.
I already said my bit on learning in a previous post. Can be a hard path to walk given the massive push for tests though. Learning how to learn, seeing if you can figure out adaptability (something schooling does not really touch on until the highest levels, despite it being 95% of life outside it) and if you are going to learn then fuck learning for the tests to forget it 5 minutes afterwards. Alas most examples people give of "I never used it again" I do actually use fairly regularly both generally and as a base to learn something more to do something more.
Education is a reflect of your own. School may suck sometimes, but learning does not. It is a process, and trust me, you need to do it, like it or not. So, relax, make the trip as comfortable as possible, and you'll see time will pass on and on.
Don't stop learning, and I'm not talking just about school. In life, in everything, never stop learning my friend. Even if 90 % of the world is rotten, knowledge will always make you a better person.
Don't stop learning, and I'm not talking just about school. In life, in everything, never stop learning my friend. Even if 90 % of the world is rotten, knowledge will always make you a better person.
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Become a nerd.
Really.
If I could go back and change one thing about high school & early college, it'd be how mentally present I was for the actual courses.
(.. Actually that's a lie, it would definitely be changing how insecure I acted – anyone you see 5+ years after high school is going to act like you guys were buds back in the day anyway, so might as well just enjoy the moment and not worry about what others think. But anyway..)
There's so many classes that I barely remember taking because I found the teacher boring or I didn't care about the class and I was just coasting and doing enough to pass. It's a bummer to have spent all that time and not have something to "show" for it.
Just about everything you learn in school can be interesting enough if you decide to be nerdy about it. Granted, there's a whole bunch of stuff that just won't interest you and that's fine, but if you could pretend — even for a bit — to be really into something and literally learn as much as you can about it, then I promise you'll enjoy it 10x more.
And, once the class is over, then you can be like "okay cool, I'm over this biology thing" and move on. Worst case, you eventually forget most of it. Or maybe you remember just enough to one day have an interesting conversation with someone who's really nerdy about that thing you learned in high school, and you can actually contribute to that conversation.
There's virtually no downside except that it takes more energy in the short term to act like you give a shit about the class that you're taking, and actually caring about what you're doing in school makes you a nerd. But, practicing giving a shit in and of itself will drastically improve your life in the long run, and as you get older you come to realize that being a nerd just means that you're someone with interests — which is a good thing.
I'll also just mention that it's okay to be bored. Boring is normal, and it's on you to figure out how to be interested in something that's boring. It's not anyone else's responsibility to make something non-boring for you. Not saying that it's easy, but again, it's an incredibly valuable skill to develop.
ok good luck have fun!!
Really.
If I could go back and change one thing about high school & early college, it'd be how mentally present I was for the actual courses.
(.. Actually that's a lie, it would definitely be changing how insecure I acted – anyone you see 5+ years after high school is going to act like you guys were buds back in the day anyway, so might as well just enjoy the moment and not worry about what others think. But anyway..)
There's so many classes that I barely remember taking because I found the teacher boring or I didn't care about the class and I was just coasting and doing enough to pass. It's a bummer to have spent all that time and not have something to "show" for it.
Just about everything you learn in school can be interesting enough if you decide to be nerdy about it. Granted, there's a whole bunch of stuff that just won't interest you and that's fine, but if you could pretend — even for a bit — to be really into something and literally learn as much as you can about it, then I promise you'll enjoy it 10x more.
And, once the class is over, then you can be like "okay cool, I'm over this biology thing" and move on. Worst case, you eventually forget most of it. Or maybe you remember just enough to one day have an interesting conversation with someone who's really nerdy about that thing you learned in high school, and you can actually contribute to that conversation.
There's virtually no downside except that it takes more energy in the short term to act like you give a shit about the class that you're taking, and actually caring about what you're doing in school makes you a nerd. But, practicing giving a shit in and of itself will drastically improve your life in the long run, and as you get older you come to realize that being a nerd just means that you're someone with interests — which is a good thing.
I'll also just mention that it's okay to be bored. Boring is normal, and it's on you to figure out how to be interested in something that's boring. It's not anyone else's responsibility to make something non-boring for you. Not saying that it's easy, but again, it's an incredibly valuable skill to develop.
ok good luck have fun!!
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