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Controversial trans athlete wins women's NYC cycling race

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I'm assuming one of those "benefits" is making women feel uncomfortable in women's bathrooms?

If my wife or 7 year old daughter went to a womens toilet and some bloke went in there got his cock out in front of them and claimed he was a women, then he is putting himself in line for a beating, if he had just gone to the mans toilet in the first place that situation wouldn't arise.

The op you both quoted clearly stated they are in favor of separating them by genitalia, rather than by "Men" and "Women". The scenarios you both used wouldn't happen if they were separated by genitalia.
 
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The op you both quoted clearly stated they are in favor of separating them by genitalia, rather than by "Men" and "Women". The scenarios you both used wouldn't happen if they were separated by genitalia.
You know exacly what I was saying in the OP and you are quoting a post which was a reply to something off topic, that fact you need to play with semantics is quite pathetic.
 

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Pull down your pants and look in the mirror, if you've got a cock your a man, if you haven't got a cock your a woman, it's that simple and that is what you are till the day you die.
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Well that's complete nonsense - that's why loads of these men that now claim to be women are smashing womens records and are coming in first and not the other way around, when they were competing as men they were mediocre at best. None of the women (trans men) that are competing against men are smashing or winning anything.
Because trans man are on average three inches shorter and thus have a disadvantage against their bigger competition, like all other short athletes. Why do you think men under 5'9" are rarely present at the top end of the competition unless it's a sport where the smaller stature and thus lower weight will provide an advantage?
The fact that Transwoman are also on average taller than their female counterparts is the reason why they have an edge over them, add more taller woman and that advantage would go away again.

I know science is hard but other people have already done the legwork, you just need to actually be able to read even the most basic information on the topic.
 

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Instead of devolving into whether trans people are valid, let's stay on the the topic of if trans women should be in female sports.
I'd like to here from the women that compete in sports and ask them if they think it's OK for biological men that claim to be women if they think fair that men are competing against them in womens sports. Then one's I've seen don't think it's fair at all and either do any of the men or women I have spoken to about it.
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Because trans man are on average three inches shorter and thus have a disadvantage against their bigger competition, like all other short athletes. Why do you think men under 5'9" are rarely present at the top end of the competition unless it's a sport where the smaller stature and thus lower weight will provide an advantage?
The fact that Transwoman are also on average taller than their female counterparts is the reason why they have an edge over them, add more taller woman and that advantage would go away again.

I know science is hard but other people have already done the legwork, you just need to actually be able to read even the most basic information on the topic.
Actually there's a lot more to it than height, but you're biased and show you have little to zero knowledege of human biology or genetics.
 

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Man, this “debate” reminds me of the time when women were “stealing” places of men way back when, leading to separation by gender & the underfunding of women’s sports (that people suddenly care about), rather than classifying by, I dunno, physical attributes? Like when my dad would discredit Shaq’s achievements in basketball because of his height.
CLEARLY these outliers exacerbated by news warrant implementing genital inspections in SCHOOLS, y’know, to protect the kids! =] /S
 
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You know exacly what I was saying in the OP and you are quoting a post which was a reply to something off topic, that fact you need to play with semantics is quite pathetic.

The fact that you're now trying to make excuses for the statement you made based off of your own reading comprehension issue by playing it off as semantics is quite pathetic.
 
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The fact that you're now trying to make excuses for the statement you made based off of your own reading comprehension issue by playing it off as semantics is quite pathetic.
Stick to the thread topic, this is about womens sports being corrupted by men not about minor semantics in every paragraph of the thread. If you haven't got anything to actually say about men claiming to be women competing in womens sports you should just be quiet and go back to your mums basement or whatever it is that you do to pass the time.
 
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Actually there's a lot more to it than height, but you're biased and show you have little to zero knowledege of human biology or genetics.
Sure buddy, of course you know more than people with actual doctor titles and experience training olympic contestants for a living.

But I guess looking at the data is too hard for you. Otherwise you'd know that bone density takes 5 years to normalize, the differences in bone structure are meaningless for most types of sports, and that the muscle to body fat ratio will also normalize within 2-5 years.

For example there's a fun study performed by the US army that looked into combat fitness for woman, man, and trans people, and would you know it once you look at the data for the participants of the same height they all perform at the same level, with the only people performing noticeably better being the ones that are bigger and thus also able to support a larger muscle mass more easily.
Really weird how reality has a bias towards actual science and not feelings.
 
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I work with a group of people, and one of the members I really don't know if is a genius or a complete evil.

Is a man from birth, but some day come and tells to all the girls what he from now on identify as a woman; but this is not all, he identify as a lesbian! woman, so all the girls think he is the cutest thing on the universe and everyone including the ones who before don't give to him nor the time on the clock. So become their (all girls) best friend, then surprise, surprise two months later he had sex with each one of the girls, even several of them at time and no one of the girls give a f*** about that; and because he is "their trans and lesbian friend" they trust him without hesitation.

Some day I asked him if all that was a plot or really he have that perception of him, the only response I get was a smile and a tirade of LGQTB+ made phrases but no direct answer for real.

Until today I am still confused. Some days I think is a genius but then think the girls could be my sister and get angry. And all of us HAVE to accept all of this because you don't want to become a heater. By the way he don't want to change anything on his body nor start any treatment.
 

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Well that's complete nonsense - that's why loads of these men that now claim to be women are smashing womens records and are coming in first and not the other way around, when they were competing as men they were mediocre at best. None of the women (trans men) that are competing against men are smashing or winning anything.

The reason they don't form their own category is because nobody would watch them, trans men aren't real men and trans women aren't real women. They are dependant on drugs, medical procedures and makeup to make them appear as another sex that's all. A pig wearing lipstick is still just a pig. It's time these sports body's got a grip of their sports and stopped with the woke agenda, all they are doing is ruining womens sports and making (real)women not want to bother trying to be the best. A second placed women that lost out to a trans is the real winner, they know it, 99.9% of the public know it and even the trans person deep down knows it.
"Well that's complete nonsense", and proceeds to say nothing but actual nonsense bullshit.
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And all of us HAVE to accept all of this
Lmao exactly, down your throats.
 
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I also love how they throw at you to not "Assume" their Gender. Really now????? Tell that to Criminal Scientist, Biology, and Science. When Law Enforcement collect up DNA, they do not have any way of determining if someone is Trans, or whatever. It is only Male or Female based on DNA Markers. So, sorry, but Science and Biology says Male or Female. In fact, there are only a VERY short list of Insects or Animals that can change Gender, I think, and that is based in their DNA.
All the rest of Life on the Planet are Male and Female. Oh but Humans, yeah, apparently we want to be different, and mess with other Gender's Sports or Listings.
Where will it end???? You had a White Woman claiming to be Black, because she felt she is Black and should be identified as such. You even had someone apparently feel that they were Blind, so they Blinded themself, and another person saying they felt like a Amputee, to they cut of a Limb. Ok, so I feel like I am a Multi-Millionaire, can I demand the Bank reflect it, then?????
 

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I love how you don't give a shit about women or women's rights until a group you hate even more starts to take something away from them
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If my wife or 7 year old daughter went to a womens toilet and some bloke went in there got his cock out in front of them and claimed he was a women, then he is putting himself in line for a beating, if he had just gone to the mans toilet in the first place that situation wouldn't arise.

But it's totally cool when he goes into a men's toilet and pulls his cock out in front of a 7-year old boy?
 
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I have a heart disease that renders me legally disabled.
I'm also 6'2".

If I go to Paralympics and I compete against Tronco Sánchez
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and I win...
Was it fair?
Remember! I'm disabled too.


"NoOoOo tHats wHy tHeRes cAtegOriEs on WeiGht aNd SizE"

Edit: Not fucking around, I actually have cardiac hypertrophy.
 
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Transgender people are still women and men, there's no reason for something like this being created.
An user just dropped a video on the topic and even made a summary on it, but i'll quote it here:

Your quote from Hellord indicates the importance of isolating transition status.
 

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I have a heart disease that renders me legally disabled.
I'm also 6'2".

If I go to Paralympics and I compete against Tronco Sánchez
images

and I win...
Was it fair?
Remember! I'm disabled too.


"NoOoOo tHats wHy tHeRes cAtegOriEs on WeiGht aNd SizE"

Edit: Not fucking around, I actually have cardiac hypertrophy.
You're making a stupid analogy. Here you're talking about disabilities, which has nothing to do with the topic.
Your quote from Hellord indicates the importance of isolating transition status.
I didn't quite catch what you meant, would you elaborate?
 
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