Can you load switch games from a HDD?

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Have you noticed that the excuses you mention are mostly being made by other people on the devs' behalf? The devs are just getting on with what they want to do. And if a publicly known dev does say that they're not going to support piracy, because it could have obvious implications on their real lives and grown up jobs, you dismissing that as a whiney excuse rather than just common sense is a bit weird.
I haven’t said anything about piracy, people keep putting those words in my mouth.
Maybe the scene is a bit different than the old days because there are adults doing their work in the open with their real names, who are providing most of the skill and effort compared to the anonymous kiddies trying to be l33t.
Oh yeah, here we agree, if only partially - the scene is definitely different than it used to be, but that’s not the reason. Neither here nor there though.
 

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I haven’t said anything about piracy, people keep putting those words in my mouth.
Well then like I said, Atmosphere (ie SciresM most likely) is planning to reimplement the entire FS module in source, which will enable what you want to happen, and the reason he hasn't done it yet is because it's the biggest fucking module and he's been quite busy reimplementing the rest of the entire operating system. Given that, it's clear why he wouldn't have spent any time doing things as patches instead. To me these seem like good reasons why other skilled devs might not have chosen to sink huge amounts of work into patching, when waiting will get better end results, but I can't speak for every dev out there. The only devs that already did do all that work did it for the grand motivator, cash money, so have you tried offering to pay anyone?
 

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Well then like I said, Atmosphere (ie SciresM most likely) is planning to reimplement the entire FS module in source, which will enable what you want to happen, and the reason he hasn't done it yet is because it's the biggest fucking module and he's been quite busy reimplementing the rest of the entire operating system. Given that, it's clear why he wouldn't have spent any time doing things as patches instead. To me these seem like good reasons why other skilled devs might not have chosen to sink huge amounts of work into patching, when waiting will get better end results, but I can't speak for every dev out there. The only devs that already did do all that work did it for the grand motivator, cash money, so have you tried offering to pay anyone?
Dev shielding again. I’m perfectly entitled to criticise someone’s work without an obligation to bankroll them or pick up the mantle myself. I can walk down a street, point with my finger and say “that building’s an eyesore”, and I don’t have to be an architect to say that - the only requirement is having at least one eyeball. I personally find this functionality to be critical - in every other scene step one was always setting up a homebrew-capable environment and step two was affordable storage. The concept of “waiting for somebody else” also used to be alien to the scene - people have always raced to “be the first to do X”, but that’s gone by the wayside for the most part. In any case, as you say, you don’t speak on behalf of the devs, and neither do I, so the conversation is kind of meaningless.
 

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Dev shielding again. I’m perfectly entitled to criticise someone’s work without an obligation to bankroll them or pick up the mantle myself. I can walk down a street, point with my finger and say “that building’s an eyesore”, and I don’t have to be an architect to say that - the only requirement is having at least one eyeball. I personally find this functionality to be critical - in every other scene step one was always setting up a homebrew-capable environment and step two was affordable storage. The concept of “waiting for somebody else” also used to be alien to the scene - people have always raced to “be the first to do X”, but that’s gone by the wayside for the most part. In any case, as you say, you don’t speak on behalf of the devs, and neither do I, so the conversation is kind of meaningless.
Entitlement again, but yeah you're right, let's quit while we're behind.
 
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You can carry a deck of SDs. You know you can set it up so you can hot plug them right?

It's actually easier than carrying game carts.

Unplug SD, plug in replacement, press volume up or down, ATM reboots, game on
 
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You can carry a deck of SDs. You know you can set it up so you can hot plug them right?

It's actually easier than carrying game carts.

Unplug SD, plug in replacement, press volume up or down, ATM reboots, game on
Don't do this on a v1. SD board connections will break. Idk if it's fixed on v2.
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Perfectly valid expectation. It’s useful functionality that’s missing.
Entitlement is expecting people to do stuff because you want it. Perfectly valid to expect it from Nintendo, otherwise not so much.
 
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Don't do this on a v1. SD board connections will break. Idk if it's fixed on v2.
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Entitlement is expecting people to do stuff because you want it. Perfectly valid to expect it from Nintendo, otherwise not so much.
you can use flax cable extender and diy ninja it in switch this way you will never touch switch sd card reader i guess(idk about the speeds) xD but still storage via usb will be dope as quack. I bet we can fit whole m2 in strock switch dock case :D
 
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Entitlement is expecting people to do stuff because you want it. Perfectly valid to expect it from Nintendo, otherwise not so much.
They’re making a product. A freely redistributable product, to be fair, but a product nonetheless. If that product is flawed, users should point that out to the developer. I don’t know where this weird emotional blackmail routine of “let’s not criticise developers lest they throw a poodie and stop developing” started, but it’s a relatively new thing, and it’s ridiculous. There’s nothing untoward in saying that Atmo not having basic support for external storage sucks major ass - it’s the truth. We can layer excuses on top of excuses here and that changes nothing - it still sucks ass. If someone’s feelings are hurt when I say that then so be it. Grown adults should be capable of taking criticism on board.
 

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Grown adults should be capable of taking criticism on board.
So you don't mind me saying that, given the actual state of Atmosphere's ongoing development that I've mentioned, directing your complaints at Atmosphere in particular, when anyone else in the world could have done the work, makes you sound like a bit of a dick.
 

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So you don't mind me saying that, given the actual state of Atmosphere's ongoing development that I've mentioned, directing your complaints at Atmosphere in particular makes you sound like a bit of a dick.
What's wrong with being a honest dick?

Your truth, I don't care at all.
I fully agreed with him but also don't care what should i do: o? Ahh yes, sweet nothing.
 

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Dev shielding again. I’m perfectly entitled to criticise someone’s work without an obligation to bankroll them or pick up the mantle myself. I can walk down a street, point with my finger and say “that building’s an eyesore”, and I don’t have to be an architect to say that - the only requirement is having at least one eyeball. I personally find this functionality to be critical - in every other scene step one was always setting up a homebrew-capable environment and step two was affordable storage. The concept of “waiting for somebody else” also used to be alien to the scene - people have always raced to “be the first to do X”, but that’s gone by the wayside for the most part. In any case, as you say, you don’t speak on behalf of the devs, and neither do I, so the conversation is kind of meaningless.
I think it's probably not hard to do. SciresM probably can do it in minutes. I think most people with enough intelligence probably can do it too given atmosphere is open source, the amount of time and effort will vary. The motivation totally missing is the reason why it hasn't been done yet.

It's like can you plant a tree? Why haven't you plant one? For all the good that three can give why or why haven't you plant it?
 

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So you don't mind me saying that, given the actual state of Atmosphere's ongoing development that I've mentioned, directing your complaints at Atmosphere in particular, when anyone else in the world could have done the work, makes you sound like a bit of a dick.
I’m fine with that. Been called worse, too.
Your truth, I don't care at all.
There’s no “your truth” or “my truth”, that’s a weird modern invention - there’s only truth, and truth is absolute. It’s a device that supports USB, but can’t utilise it for anything besides controllers and connecting to a desktop - that’s unfulfilled potential. Having more functionality rather than less is de facto better. You don’t have to use functionality you personally don’t need, the crux of the issue is that those of us who have a use for it *can’t* and the excuse given is poor. It’s fairly straightforward.
 

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and the excuse given is poor. It’s fairly straightforward.
You can say that about Nintendo. They are making money on this. If it was a functionality of their firmware, it would have been operational in Atmosphere on the same revision. For the CFW devs, there is no such thing as a poor excuse. Because I don't f-ing feel like it, is a good enough excuse. As is the statement, "if you want it, add it to your own fork". It's fairly straightforward.
 
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You can say that about Nintendo. They are making money on this. If it was a functionality of their firmware, it would have been operational in Atmosphere on the same revision. For the CFW devs, there is no such thing as a poor excuse. Because I don't f-ing feel like it, is a good enough excuse. As is the statement, "if you want it, add it to your own fork". It's fairly straightforward.
It's like no body need to explain why they don't donate blood to the blood bank.

Anybody can come to gbatemp and challenge those who didn't donate blood, not that that would really do any good but they can.
 
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You can say that about Nintendo. They are making money on this. If it was a functionality of their firmware, it would have been operational in Atmosphere on the same revision. For the CFW devs, there is no such thing as a poor excuse. Because I don't f-ing feel like it, is a good enough excuse. As is the statement, "if you want it, add it to your own fork". It's fairly straightforward.
Oh, I absolutely put part of the blame on Nintendo - it’s a gimped device out of the box.
Why you can't is anybody's guess, other people have been using it for storage since a long time
Extended storage that doesn’t work exactly the same as internal storage or the SD slot equals gimped half-measure.

I’m not sure why anyone treats this opinion as outlandish - when I plug in a USB drive into a consumer device, I expect it to show up as a valid storage device. I’ll be very happy when that day comes, until then I’ll whinge about it.
It's like no body need to explain why they don't donate blood to the blood bank.
In all honesty, I’d prefer no explanation at all, that would be less insulting to people’s intelligence. The piracy angle is bizarre and has no basis in reality. At this stage of the game it’s entirely about convenience of mass storage. Fixing the problem should be a priority, not an afterthought.
 

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Oh, I absolutely put part of the blame on Nintendo - it’s a gimped device out of the box.
Extended storage that doesn’t work exactly the same as internal storage or the SD slot equals gimped half-measure.

I’m not sure why anyone treats this opinion as outlandish - when I plug in a USB drive into a consumer device, I expect it to show up as a valid storage device. I’ll be very happy when that day comes, until then I’ll whinge about it.
On most devices, PC, Phone, a usb storage isn't the same as internal storage, it has been and still is.

I have not use the feature but I believe DBI would recognize usb storage.
 

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