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US to give Ukraine long range missiles

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If you don't want to be treated like a cowardly dipshit, stop acting like one. Do you think it would've been a just outcome for the US to annex half of Afghanistan and Iraq? Hell, if China invaded the US tomorrow, would you also recommend negotiating the surrender of twenty states to appease them?
I would fight to defend my country. I would not fight to defend a nazi infested corrupt country.
Peace was already attained before a single mad dictator decided to shatter it. Now that Putin has deliberately and maliciously chosen to put himself in this position, he's made it clear it's all or nothing for him, so he'll get nothing.
No it wasn't. the Azov battalion was brutalizing the local population. I won't be surprised if any of them remain, they will be charged with war crimes.
Good, now put two and two together. Who sent money and weapons into Ukraine FIRST, genius? Why was a Western response necessary at all? And why would you prefer to allow genocide to happen instead?
Genocide was already happening. It's happening in other parts of the world too. Namely Africa. But you don't care about that genocide because those people aren't white.

But if you want to go to war so bad, go sign up tough guy. If you are half as tough as you let on here, you should be able to wipe out the entire Russian military and go take Moscow for yourself. You won't though, because Ukraine doesn't need keyboard warriors to fight. Only to spread propaganda for your nazi Asov friends.
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if it's any of your business, A Ukranian YT
That explains a lot. Thanks.
 

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I would fight to defend my country. I would not fight to defend a nazi infested corrupt country.
I got some bad news for ya bud...the US has neo-nazis and nazi sympathizers too. I'm arguing with one right now.

No it wasn't. the Azov battalion was brutalizing the local population.
The Wagner Group is an internationally recognized terrorist organization. That doesn't give the US permission/justification to invade and annex Russia, now does it?

Genocide was already happening. It's happening in other parts of the world too. Namely Africa. But you don't care about that genocide because those people aren't white.
I sure as hell do not support anyone who got profited from apartheid, such as Elon Musk. Most of Africa's current problems stem from too much foreign intervention and influence in the past, so America inserting itself into even more conflicts now would not be helpful.

But if you want to go to war so bad, go sign up tough guy.
Motherfucker, you're the one arguing from a pro-invasion standpoint. If you want this war to continue, then you go volunteer for Putin's meatgrinder. I want it over ASAP, and that requires the pro-war dictator be defeated. No ifs, ands, or buts.
 

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Whoa, its kinda surreal when alt-right conspiracy theorists try to teach me what is rEaLLy happening right now in my country.
A vast amount of it's people are pro-Russian and the rest have long ties with Russia and share a common bond with them. If USA had invaded Russia, you can bet Ukraine would have been on Russia's side

Dude, its dumbest shit that I read in whole week, and i know (sadly) russian language and time-to-time checks their gov media.
 

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I got some bad news for ya bud...the US has neo-nazis and nazi sympathizers too. I'm arguing with one right now.
They aren't serving in our military. And you project too much nazi lover.
The Wagner Group is an internationally recognized terrorist organization. That doesn't give the US permission/justification to invade and annex Russia, now does it?
We shouldn't be invading or interfering in the internal affairs of other countries. Also, Ukraine is not our fight. If NATO wants to go in, good luck to them.
I sure as hell do not support anyone who got profited from apartheid, such as Elon Musk. Most of Africa's current problems stem from too much foreign intervention and influence in the past, so America inserting itself into even more conflicts now would not be helpful.
No you didn't just complain about foreign intervention and influence while demanding we go to nuclear war with Russia. The cognitive dissonance is strong with this one.
Motherfucker, you're the one arguing from a pro-invasion standpoint. If you want this war to continue, then you go volunteer for Putin's meatgrinder. I want it over ASAP, and that requires the pro-war dictator be defeated. No ifs, ands, or buts.
I've already participated in war once. It's not something I wish to do again. You won't do it because you lack the training, discipline, intelligence and sphincter control to survive in a war zone. Stay mad nazi lover, and keep pounding that keyboard. Putin is scared while on his deathbed right now.
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better than Supporting you. :)
Finally, a leftist here with a bit of honesty about who they support. How refreshing.
 

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They aren't serving in our military. And you project too much nazi lover.

We shouldn't be invading or interfering in the internal affairs of other countries. Also, Ukraine is not our fight. If NATO wants to go in, good luck to them.

No you didn't just complain about foreign intervention and influence while demanding we go to nuclear war with Russia. The cognitive dissonance is strong with this one.

I've already participated in war once. It's not something I wish to do again. You won't do it because you lack the training, discipline, intelligence and sphincter control to survive in a war zone. Stay mad nazi lover, and keep pounding that keyboard. Putin is scared while on his deathbed right now.
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Finally, a leftist here with a bit of honesty about who they support. How refreshing.

1 war? I have 3 with the USMC & Navy. pffffft
 

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TraderPatTX said: I've already participated in war once. It's not something I wish to do again.

Or you are just a whimp :)
I'm not going to keep participating in one unjust war after another. We were lied into Iraq with those phantom WMD's and we were lied into Afghanistan. Going further back, we were lied into Kosovo and Vietnam. I'm done with it. And I'm 100% sure you aren't volunteering for the Ukrainian military. It's so easy sending other people to fight a war that you are so hot and horny to start. Why don't you put your keyboard down and catch a flight over there, tough guy?
 

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What gets me is how Russia whines everytime when the USA and other countries send Ukraine weapons just to defend themselfs, yet Russia can launch missiles, from Russia, into residential buildings killing innocent civilians daily, and the world is supposed to just except that and do nothing. Oh we are allowed to bomb a neutral sovereign country, but they better not attack us back!

Classic school yard bully, they get to hurt others but the moment they get touched they go crying to mommy
 

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I'm not going to keep participating in one unjust war after another. We were lied into Iraq with those phantom WMD's and we were lied into Afghanistan. Going further back, we were lied into Kosovo and Vietnam. I'm done with it. And I'm 100% sure you aren't volunteering for the Ukrainian military. It's so easy sending other people to fight a war that you are so hot and horny to start. Why don't you put your keyboard down and catch a flight over there, tough guy?

I sure am a tough guy ma'am :)
 

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Zelensky has an agreement already, the Russians don't want it

the agreement is Russia recognizes the sovereignty of Ukraine and leaves Ukraine

What other agreement could there be? Would you be for an agreement where China invades Hawaii and we give them the land because "we must avoid upsetting the bad guys"?
Ahem ahem Hawaii was a sovereign Island with a monarchy King and circa 1890 the US unjustifiably annexed Hawaii and rendered Native Hawaiians homeless in their own land, irony there.
 

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They aren't serving in our military.
Our military recruits whoever they possibly can, high school dropouts, white nationalists, and neo-nazis very much included. A not-insignificant number of war crimes were committed by them in Afghanistan and Iraq.

We shouldn't be invading or interfering in the internal affairs of other countries. Also, Ukraine is not our fight. If NATO wants to go in, good luck to them.
Good thing this isn't a matter of "internal affairs," then. It's an adversary invading one of our allies. And providing arms support means that neither the US nor NATO has to get involved directly.

No you didn't just complain about foreign intervention and influence while demanding we go to nuclear war with Russia.
Indeed I didn't. The only country to threaten the use of nukes has been Russia, and everybody knows they're bluffing out of desperation.

I've already participated in war once. It's not something I wish to do again.
Then it's not something you should support being inflicted upon the Ukrainian people. Wake the fuck up and smell the reality. Children are literally being raped and tortured to death, you have no right to tell Ukrainians they must forgive and forget about this barbarism just because you've got a hard-on for Putin.

Putin is scared while on his deathbed right now.
He is afraid of what his own people will do to him once they can no longer deny he has failed them. Hundreds of thousands of untrained and under-equipped Russian soldiers sent to their deaths, and all for nothing. Fascists do not tend to live long after the facade of their strongman image fades away.
 
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You sound like a war monger, also Ukraine is not an Ally of US or the west, it never was and it never paid a single cent/penny into NATO or the US treasury. A vast amount of it's people are pro-Russian and the rest have long ties with Russia and share a common bond with them. If USA had invaded Russia, you can bet Ukraine would have been on Russia's side as they only care about USA just now because you are funding them with the hard working people's taxes. For the average person on the street in Ukraine, when this war is over they will still have a dictator in charge of them and life will be just as shit as it was before the war. Zelensky and his mates will be richer and have fled to the west, Arms companies and those with shares in them will be richer, and those compainies that have done deals in the shadows to rebuild Ukraine will be richer.

Russia isn't going anywhere - it doesn't need to worry about supply issues, manpower, the media - this is why it will win and already has in Ukraine.

The best thing for the USA is to stop sending all your jobs and tech to china, stop importing cheap goods and steel from them, forget this net zero global warming crap and to kick out all your illegals and stop giiving them benefits and housing. The reason China is rising is because you sent them all your jobs and technical knowledge so that your rich could become richer, the average man lost out on lower wages, worse job prospects, loss of rights etc, it's easy to blame others for this - but at some point you are going to face the reality that China will be the worlds No1 super power and USA will be second. You should start by getting rid of those two muppets you have in the whitehouse, Bumbling Brain Dead Biden, and "Where the fuck is Harris?".
putin's boot licker right here lol so many wrong takes happening since my last post and it's all pro putin propaganda. Either you are a troll, like to be professionally angry, or you work for a propaganda effort. Of course you could have also drank some mainstream media kool aid or something. Who knows? i suggest going offline, touching some grass, and maybe ditch being social anonymously cause you do not have the mental fortitude for it.
 
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putin's boot licker right here lol so many wrong takes happening since my last post and it's all pro putin propaganda. Either you are a troll, like to be professionally angry, or you work for a propaganda effort. Of course you could have also drank some mainstream media kool aid or something. Who knows? i suggest going offline, touching some grass, and maybe ditch being social anonymously cause you do not have the mental fortitude for it.
It's honestly disturbing that there is anyone Pro-Russia. I understand that there's an entire series of events leading up to this point and there's a lot to be said, but the Russian government is still in the wrong here and no amount of shit that happened before can justify their actions. Putin is a dictator trying to recreate the USSR but with far more homophobia and far-right politics, his war with Ukraine is based on a delusion that he would be allowed to accomplish that goal.
 
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Let's talk about Iraq and Afghanistan - a big foreign power invaded a small nation(s) and kills civilians with questionable legal/moral backing

Sound familiar? Yes that's exactly what Russia is doing right now in Ukraine

And the surefire way to prolong the suffering of the Ukrainian people is to allow the Russians to repeat what they did in Bucha throughout the entire country, torture, rape, extrajudicial killings
Except Ukrainians are not the only victims of the war. Russians are also victims. War victim status is not dependent upon the size of the participating nations. This is another non-sequitur argument. A Russian soldier tortured, raped, and/or killed in a foreign land is no less tragic than a Ukrainian citizen tortured, raped, and/or killed in their homeland. Both are Imago Dei. Recent history seems to favor the position that US involvement only serves to exasperate such tragedy.
 

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