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omg this moron believes the laptop conspiracy too.

It's a continued waste of time to engage with this MAGA who clearly has an IQ 2 standard deviations below the mean. I mean, most do...
So all those emails, the photo and video evidence is a conspiracy.

Do you even realize you are using the same arguments that I am, but for some reason, they are valid when you do it.

The fact that you have to denigrate other people when they prove you wrong shows what a shallow thinker you are in real life.

But I love the personal attacks. Please keep them coming. It's all you have anyway.
 

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omg this moron believes the laptop conspiracy too.

It's a continued waste of time to engage with this MAGA who clearly has an IQ 2 standard deviations below the mean. I mean, most do...

What conspiracy? Elon Musk uncovered that the FBI paid off Twitter to suppress the laptop story. This is fact, not fiction.
 

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Theses aren't pro-Trump.
That’s called a “No true Scotsman” fallacy. These people have proclaimed their support for Trump including on forums, social media, in private, and on video. Just because you want to deny reality doesn’t change anything. The same people have been on record spreading conspiracies like Jewish space lasers starting forest fires
https://stljewishlight.org/news/wor...Ey8F45ojhdn3yGjr4JwvMvkP7hw9QeYkaAnu1EALw_wcB
There’s White Nationalist (who are Trump supporters,) on video shouting “Jews/You will not replace us.” Interviews at Trump rallies are riddled with antisemitic rhetoric. Oh and again, the George Soros conspiracies are antisemitic and ignoring that doesn’t change anything either. Just because you ignore information given, doesn’t change reality
 

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That’s called a “No true Scotsman” fallacy. These people have proclaimed their support for Trump including on forums, social media, in private, and on video. Just because you want to deny reality doesn’t change anything. The same people have been on record spreading conspiracies like Jewish space lasers starting forest fires
https://stljewishlight.org/news/wor...Ey8F45ojhdn3yGjr4JwvMvkP7hw9QeYkaAnu1EALw_wcB
There’s White Nationalist (who are Trump supporters,) on video shouting “Jews/You will not replace us.” Interviews at Trump rallies are riddled with antisemitic rhetoric. Oh and again, the George Soros conspiracies are antisemitic and ignoring that doesn’t change anything either. Just because you ignore information given, doesn’t change reality
Anybody can say they support somebody. It does not mean that person necessarily reciprocates that support, especially since Trump has disavowed neo nazis over 30 times on camera and it's still not enough.

Once again, you can't explain why speaking out about George Soros is not anti-Semitic and speaking out about Dennis Prager is anti-Semitic. Seems like you are trying to push a double standard here.
 
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That’s called a “No true Scotsman” fallacy. These people have proclaimed their support for Trump including on forums, social media, in private, and on video. Just because you want to deny reality doesn’t change anything. The same people have been on record spreading conspiracies like Jewish space lasers starting forest fires
https://stljewishlight.org/news/wor...Ey8F45ojhdn3yGjr4JwvMvkP7hw9QeYkaAnu1EALw_wcB
There’s White Nationalist (who are Trump supporters,) on video shouting “Jews/You will not replace us.” Interviews at Trump rallies are riddled with antisemitic rhetoric. Oh and again, the George Soros conspiracies are antisemitic and ignoring that doesn’t change anything either. Just because you ignore information given, doesn’t change reality
You didn't proved it.
 

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Again not an argument, but i'm not surprised.
It’s because I’ve already provided the links and you decided to ignore them. I am not going to provide them again just so a sock puppet can ignore them again
 

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It’s because I’ve already provided the links and you decided to ignore them. I am not going to provide them again just so a sock puppet can ignore them again
I provided links to a couple of Twitter files on another thread and you completely ignored them. Don't get mad at other people for the same behavior you exhibit. That's called being hypocritical.
 
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I provided links to a couple of Twitter files on another thread and you completely ignored them. Don't get mad at other people for the same behavior you exhibit. That's called being hypocritical.
I am glad you aren't even pretending that other account isn't just clearly you in a sock puppet account.
 

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It’s because I’ve already provided the links and you decided to ignore them. I am not going to provide them again just so a sock puppet can ignore them again
And the links proved nothing.
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I provided links to a couple of Twitter files on another thread and you completely ignored them. Don't get mad at other people for the same behavior you exhibit. That's called being hypocritical.
He didn't even try to make his claim relevant or anything he mindlessly posted links of people whining about antisemitism without explaining anything. All I needed is to post the definition of antisemitism to show how biased his statements were.
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I am glad you aren't even pretending that other account isn't just clearly you in a sock puppet account.
You're paranoid.
 
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You can't be far left and an anarchist. One believes in the authoritarian state and the other believes in no government at all. You have no idea what you are.
So.. what do you consider anarchists if not far left?
Anarchism is not just 'hurr durr no government', btw. In essence, it is the absence of hierarchy - so yes, it includes no government - but also states or nations or borders between them, cops, religion (in some instances), etc. But I have a gut feeling you truly don't think you know what anarchism actually anyways is or read any theory - but here and here are good starting points.

PS many of us believe Communists - Capital C Communists - so- marxist-leninists[-maoists] are authoritarians parading around as leftists and believe they have no intention of ever becoming stateless-classist society as Marx/Engels intended.

Edit: typed in nation instead of society
 
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So.. what do you consider anarchists if not far left?
Anarchism is not just 'hurr durr no government', btw. In essence, it is the absence of hierarchy - so yes, it includes no government - but also states or nations or borders between them, cops, religion (in some instances), etc. But I have a gut feeling you truly don't think you know what anarchism actually anyways is or read any theory - but here and here are good starting points.

PS many of us believe Communists - Capital C Communists - so- marxist-leninists[-maoists] are authoritarians parading around as leftists and believe they have no intention of ever becoming stateless-classist society as Marx/Engels intended.

Edit: typed in nation instead of society
Marxists, Leninists and Maoists aren't parading around as leftists, they actually are leftists. Anybody who believes in more centralized government control are leftists. Socialism, by it's nature, requires a centralized authoritarian government.

People on the right believe in decentralization of government with a smaller federal government. We believe in the Constitution as it was written by the original authors. Capitalism can take place with no government at all.
 

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Marxists, Leninists and Maoists aren't parading around as leftists, they actually are leftists. Anybody who believes in more centralized government control are leftists. Socialism, by it's nature, requires a centralized authoritarian government.

People on the right believe in decentralization of government with a smaller federal government. We believe in the Constitution as it was written by the original authors. Capitalism can take place with no government at all.
No, you are completely missing my point about ML and MLMs, and you have a very broad definition of leftism that includes liberals, who are not leftists by definition (say it after me: capitalism is inherently not leftist and being a capitalist or supporting capitalism completely excludes you from being a leftist).

And you didn't answer my question which was the main point of even me feeling the urge to even respond to your initial comment in the first place.
So.. what do you consider anarchists if not far left?
Unless
People on the right believe in decentralization of government with a smaller federal government. We believe in the Constitution as it was written by the original authors. Capitalism can take place with no government at all.
Is your answer in which case, anarchism is not right wing, and anarcho-capitalists aren't anarchist because capital existing is inherently hierarchical by nature.

Neither me or CatBoy are not ancaps, either. Not to mention, right wing politics exists outside the US and the right wing in other countries really aren't "believing" in our constitution and to think so is just absurd.
 
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and anarcho-capitalists aren't anarchist because capital existing is inherently hierarchical by nature.
Just going to add on for other people here if that's alright.

The reason it's hierarchical in nature is because of the worker boss dynamic. The boss can fire the worker, strip the worker of pay, which is needed to live, if the worker acts any bit out of line with what the boss wants. Said boss also owns the means for that person to do their work, or the tools needed, and commonly things the worker needs to live. (food, water, other supplies)

While workers have essentially no leverage, unless they unionize.

Problem is though, that inherently the boss will setup rules, and if there was no government already, there's nothing stopping them from creating a police or military force to enforce said rules using the wealth and resources they already have.

Which would mean that because unionizing is against the boss's desires, that created force would be used to prolong effectively that new government. Instead of kings and queens based in religion and thus, power, You got CEO's based in wealth and money, and control over necessities.

Personally, I'm all in favor of getting the fuck out of capitalism, and desclating government power as much as possible(or at least make it a 1to1 democracy or closer to it.)
 
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Pro-life except when it comes to healthcare, climate change and mass shootings.
Just because I don't want to take care of other peoples kids doesn't mean I don't care about children. It's the job of the people who create life to take care of it and the left supports these deadbeats who rather not take responsibility for what they created.
Wants to force people to have children, yet doesn't want to take any responsibility for doing so.
 

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Reasonable or intelligent discourse is simply impossible with any self identifying conservative in 2023.
Thats a broad overstatement. Both sides have been known for being shitty from the riots and hate to the political unjust.

Insulting someone for having a different opinion on the matter is just a asshole thing (Unless it's fucked up), and before you jump on my head for saying this and that im a "bigoted right-winger" i would of done this to any one leaning on the right or left.
 

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