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Just remember that Democrats are not leftists by and large, it's a favor to Republicans when you refer to them as such because it shifts the Overton window right. They're corporate centrists at best, which is why their inaction is often by design. Out of thousands of elected officials in the federal government, there are maybe two or three actual leftists that openly identify as such.
Just remember that Republicans are not far right by and large, it's a favor to Democrats when you refer to them as such because it shifts the Overton window left. They're corporate centrists at best, which is why their inaction is often by design. Out of thousands of elected officials in the federal government, there are maybe two or three actual far right that openly identify as such.

Same energy.
 

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Just remember that Republicans are not far right by and large, it's a favor to Democrats when you refer to them as such because it shifts the Overton window left. They're corporate centrists at best, which is why their inaction is often by design. Out of thousands of elected officials in the federal government, there are maybe two or three actual far right that openly identify as such.

Same energy.

Calling something the far right or a conspiracy theory are just methods the leftist leaders use to control others with. You hear those words and automatically ignore the source material and even if the material is sound you will still dismiss it over personal bias. Imagine for a second that people worked on facts first and opinions second, but the left likes to pass off opinion as fact. What a crazy world.
 

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I care about life, it's just not my job to raise other peoples kids. People should be responsible and take care of the life they create and that means from conception to adulthood. Drop the love for socialism and wake up.

Here's a good read for you, liar. Might want to think about how much "socialism" you are an active and more than willing part of, prior to spouting off such complete bullshit arguments. Are you seriously as flat out dumb as you make yourself out to be with that stupid of a comment?

https://www.osaunion.org/news/sep04/ADayInTheLife.pdf
 
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Here's a good read for you, liar. Might want to think about how much "socialism" you are an active and more than willing part of, prior to spouting off such complete bullshit arguments. Are you seriously as flat out dumb as you make yourself out to be with that stupid of a comment?

https://www.osaunion.org/news/sep04/ADayInTheLife.pdf

So you're saying it's my job to care for, pay for and raise other peoples children?
 

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Here's a good read for you, liar. Might want to think about how much "socialism" you are an active and more than willing part of, prior to spouting off such complete bullshit arguments. Are you seriously as flat out dumb as you make yourself out to be with that stupid of a comment?

https://www.osaunion.org/news/sep04/ADayInTheLife.pdf
Who was that liberal that fought for clean water?

Who was that liberal that fought for safe medications? That guy failed miserably. Have you seen the ads where over half the time spent is on side effects?

Who was the liberal who fought for product labeling?

How do you know that Joe is a union member?

The liberal who wanted to protect us from the bankers is a bigger failure than his buddy fighting for safe medications.

Some liberal decided that we can't claim student loans in a bankruptcy. Thanks?

Who was the liberal that fought for car safety features?

Who was the liberal who fought for electrifying rural areas?

How do you know these people who fought for all this stuff were liberals?

And where are the facts in this story? Are there any interviews with Joe proving this story as true? Are there any references at all?
 

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Just remember that Republicans are not far right by and large
If you have one guy sitting at a table with a visible swastika tattoo, and four seemingly normal dudes hanging out with him, you have five nazis. Republicans embrace and sympathize with the far right because the divisions they create benefit their corporate donors, while Democrats fiercely resist calls for progress from the left for the same reason; inaction on certain topics/policies benefits their corporate donors.

The common thread for both is capitalism.
 

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So you're saying it's my job to care for, pay for and raise other peoples children?

if you seriously believe that's what I was trying to say, you're FAR dumber than I originally thought. But leave it to a deplorable to not understand simple concepts. Not surprised.

Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

Same goes for you. Not my fault you can't comprehend the simple point of what was being said.
 

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if you seriously believe that's what I was trying to say, you're FAR dumber than I originally thought. But leave it to a deplorable to not understand simple concepts. Not surprised.



Same goes for you. Not my fault you can't comprehend the simple point of what was being said.

So it is or isn't it my job to raise other peoples children?
 

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If you have one guy sitting at a table with a visible swastika tattoo, and four seemingly normal dudes hanging out with him, you have five nazis. Republicans embrace and sympathize with the far right because the divisions they create benefit their corporate donors, while Democrats fiercely resist calls for progress from the left for the same reason; inaction on certain topics/policies benefits their corporate donors.

The common thread for both is capitalism.
Nobody on the right supports sending billions to literal nazis in Ukraine. That's the uniparty. And that is who you keep defending. You are supporting the military industrial complex, the Dick Cheneys and George W. Bushes who still hold stock in Raytheon and other DOD contractors.

So whenever you feel like calling other people fascists and nazis, remember that you are supporting that one guy sitting at the table with a visible swastika tattoo right here.

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if you seriously believe that's what I was trying to say, you're FAR dumber than I originally thought. But leave it to a deplorable to not understand simple concepts. Not surprised.



Same goes for you. Not my fault you can't comprehend the simple point of what was being said.
Your point was not based in fact. Not my fault you can't comprehend the simple point I was making.
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It's not your job to raise their children, just as it's not your place nor the role of the state to force others to give birth to unwanted children.
It's not your place to determine who dies. It's also not the government's job unless you commit a crime like crimes against children, which includes murdering children.
 

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Nobody on the right supports sending billions to literal nazis in Ukraine.
So they support the fascist and imperialist invasion of Ukraine, then. Every nation with white people has its share of white supremacists, but that doesn't change the fact that Russia is obviously in the wrong in this scenario. Nor does it change the fact that the far right loves Putin almost as much as they loved Hitler.

It's not your place to determine who dies.
Precisely, which is why I leave decisions involving somebody else's body and well-being to that person and their loved ones. Neither you, nor I, nor the government has the right to make that type of determination for them. Supporting authoritarianism will always come back around to bite you in the ass eventually.
 
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So they support the fascist and imperialist invasion of Ukraine, then. Every nation with white people has its share of white supremacists, but that doesn't change the fact that Russia is obviously in the wrong in this scenario. Nor does it change the fact that the far right loves Putin almost as much as they loved Hitler.


Precisely, which is why I leave decisions involving somebody else's body and well-being to that person and their loved ones. Neither you, nor I, nor the government has the right to make that type of determination for them. Supporting authoritarianism will always come back around to bite you in the ass eventually.

i am totally and completely serious with this offer, i will pay you whatever you want, if you can explain to me how 2 of your guys, are apparently " far right"?
 

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So they support the fascist and imperialist invasion of Ukraine, then. Every nation with white people has its share of white supremacists, but that doesn't change the fact that Russia is obviously in the wrong in this scenario. Nor does it change the fact that the far right loves Putin almost as much as they loved Hitler.
So you are saying that fascists are attacking other fascists. Do you know how stupid you are sounding? You didn't even care about Ukraine when they spent the previous 8 years bombing their own citizens. You only care because the media told you to care. There is no other reason. And it doesn't change the fact that you support nazis while calling everybody you disagree with nazis. You've moved beyond just mere projection to full on gaslighting. How do those nazi boots taste?
Precisely, which is why I leave decisions involving somebody else's body and well-being to that person and their loved ones. Neither you, nor I, nor the government has the right to make that type of determination for them. Supporting authoritarianism will always come back around to bite you in the ass eventually.
Nobody has the right to kill another healthy person. Not even family or parents. Supporting life is not authoritarianism. Actually, it's the opposite. That's why you support nazis and abortion. You profess your love for authoritarianism every day on this forum.
 

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So you are saying that fascists are attacking other fascists.
Don't be an idiot. I'm saying one side unilaterally invaded their neighboring country without provocation, while the other side is entirely justified in doing everything possible to defend their homeland. The fact that there are and always have been some white supremacists within both the Ukrainian and Russian military is irrelevant, and a desperate attempt at whataboutism on your part.

Nobody has the right to kill another healthy person. Not even family or parents.
Good thing the vast majority of abortions occur before the zygote is the size of an egg yolk, then. And even in cases where the fetus is more developed, you do not have the right to inflict your sense of morality on others, lest you want to grant them the ability to inflict their morality upon you.
 

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So it is or isn't it my job to raise other peoples children?

So do you, or do you not, actively and willing take part in all sorts of the "socialism" that you so much despise?

Your point was not based in fact. Not my fault you can't comprehend the simple point I was making.

My point is 100% based in fact. You're just failing to understand the point. Again, not my fault it's all so difficult for you.


Edit: Since you're both having extreme difficulties understanding, perhaps this will make it easier for you simpletons. Replace every instance of mentioning liberals in the original document with a generic "someone" and it makes the same point. Despite how much the both of you would like to move the goalposts and play pretend stupid, the point wasn't about who literally did what. The point was to demonstrate how incredibly moronic and hypocritical the "Drop the love for socialism and wake up." comment is.
 
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So do you, or do you not, actively and willing take part in all sorts of the "socialism" that you so much despise?

I could care less about your links. You lost most of my interest when you started insulting me.

I'm not sure how this counts as education? Like, you know it's not actually a university, right? It's a propaganda channel funded by conservative billionaires, the U is just there to have a veneer of impartiality (a very thin one). Take it as opinion at best, if you like.

I am aware that Prager U is not an actual university. That doesn't mean they don't make sense or are lying for the sake of political bullshit.
 

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I am aware that Prager U is not an actual university. That doesn't mean they don't make sense or are lying for the sake of political bullshit.
That's exactly what it means. If they aren't there to educate, they're there to indoctrinate.
 

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I'm not sure how this counts as education? Like, you know it's not actually a university, right? It's a propaganda channel funded by conservative billionaires, the U is just there to have a veneer of impartiality (a very thin one). Take it as opinion at best, if you like.
Regular universities are propaganda channels funded by the taxpayers to push government narratives. There's not even a veneer of impartiality anymore.
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Don't be an idiot. I'm saying one side unilaterally invaded their neighboring country without provocation, while the other side is entirely justified in doing everything possible to defend their homeland. The fact that there are and always have been some white supremacists within both the Ukrainian and Russian military is irrelevant, and a desperate attempt at whataboutism on your part.
You say there was no provocation because you have no knowledge of history. Go read some and then come back here and speak with some intelligence.
Good thing the vast majority of abortions occur before the zygote is the size of an egg yolk, then. And even in cases where the fetus is more developed, you do not have the right to inflict your sense of morality on others, lest you want to grant them the ability to inflict their morality upon you.
Imagine thinking killing another human is moral. Especially ones who have no voice and are completely defenseless. No wonder you support nazis in Ukraine. Don't ever talk to me about morals again. You have none.
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So do you, or do you not, actively and willing take part in all sorts of the "socialism" that you so much despise?



My point is 100% based in fact. You're just failing to understand the point. Again, not my fault it's all so difficult for you.


Edit: Since you're both having extreme difficulties understanding, perhaps this will make it easier for you simpletons. Replace every instance of mentioning liberals in the original document with a generic "someone" and it makes the same point. Despite how much the both of you would like to move the goalposts and play pretend stupid, the point wasn't about who literally did what. The point was to demonstrate how incredibly moronic and hypocritical the "Drop the love for socialism and wake up." comment is.
It's not a true story. You can't back it up with any facts. And now you want to change the characters in the story because you know it is not true to begin with.

It's like liberals complaining about food, but without conservatives farming and ranching, they wouldn't be able to buy any food in the grocery store. There's no guarantee that any farmer is conservative or liberal. And why does ideology even matter in this instance? It's dumb and I think you are realizing how dumb it is.

You should thank a conservative for helping you see this.
 
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I mean, both political parties are going to advance their own agendas whilst hindering the others'. That's a neverending battle as old as the country itself.

Also, I'm starting to wonder how different the definitions of socialism and fascism are from person to person. Even in a confined environment such as this one, the juxtaposition is fascinating.
 
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