Days Gone director blames "woke reviewers" for poor sales and reception

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After claiming that game piracy was leading to "money out of [his] pocket" and that gamers shouldn't complain about games not getting sequels if they don't buy them at launch for full price, the director of Days Gone has gone on to make another amusing statement. In a response to a fan who was "blown away" by how much he enjoyed Days Gone and confused why it wasn't universally praised, the game's writer and director John Garvin claimed that there were three reasons why the game didn't do well, commercially or critically.

Three reasons:
1. it had tech issues like bugs, streaming and frame rate;
2. it had reviewers who couldn’t be bothered to actually play the game
3. And three, it had woke reviewers who couldn’t handle a gruff white biker looking at his date's ass

He blamed reviewers for either not actually playing his game, or on reviewers for being too woke to understand the story of Days Gone, which consisted of a guy trying to reunite with his wife after a zombie apocalypse. In GBAtemp's own, possibly woke opinion, after not playing the game at all, we found it to have a tired, generic take on a genre that had already been done to death, and that, "Days Gone sits at the cusp between good and bad. It exists as a wholly mediocre game, relying so much on its inspiration that it never feels unique. When compared to Sony's recent first-party successes in the form of Spider-Man and God of War, it only makes Days Gone that much blander".

According to Sony, the game managed to sell 8 million copies total, following its PC port, which led to somewhat of a small cult following, though the game remains at a middling 71 Metacritic score. Days Gone was never greenlit for a sequel, and Garvin left Sony to work for Crystal Dynamics, and is currently assisting in the development of an "NFT-themed game".



He deleted his Tweet and privated his account after gamers and reviewers criticized him for his comment, though the remark is archived, here.
 

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Wasnt this the game that was an absolutely buggy mess at launch that people cared about for like 2 weeks before forgetting about it completely?
 
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He listed three legit reasons, the last one was the woke stuff. Weird reaction online since it’s true, the handful of reviews in question specifically mentioned stuff about race and what the zombies looked like. I hate journalists these days.

Also how stupid are most of you here? Even in the forum it’s laid out.
Three reasons:
1. it had tech issues like bugs, streaming and frame rate;
2. it had reviewers who couldn’t be bothered to actually play the game
3. And three, it had woke reviewers who couldn’t handle a gruff white biker looking at his date's ass
 
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I hate journalists these days.
Ditto, around 80% of jourlanists come from wealthy families and are out of touch with the common man. They are also not really proper journalists and get their news from Twitter and Facebook and don't really do any journalism at all. Their stories are made up half the time and based losely on their own opinions and political leanings and hearsay. I stopped reading what "journalists" were saying years ago, most of the crap they spout is made up propaganda. You need to get your news for yourself nowadays from many different sources and make up your own mind based on all the different accounts of others as any single source just can't be trusted (especially from the left). These woke twats need a good boot in the balls or a punch in the tits and told to get lost - personally I just ignore their bleating now as most of them are mentally unhinged, hate themselves and others and spend around 90% of their day whinging about something and feel offended on behalf of others (whether that person was offended or not). Woke is a cancer in the world, come WW3 when all law and order has broken down and there's no repercussions for your actions, I'll hunt down every woke and blue haired effiminate gimboid I can find and send them to their maker on behalf of all the normies that hate them just as much as I do.
 

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The most "woke" people are the "anti-woke" that go around constantly telling everyone how "woke" things are. It always amuses me how they don't see the hypocrisy in their own statements. The director is full of shit. The game has an 8.4 user score for the PS4 version on Metacritic and an 8.8 for the PC version. "Woke" reviewers has absolutely NOTHING to do with it. It also obviously did well enough to receive the PC port to begin with.

I enjoyed the game and paid full price on release. Best game I've ever played? Not at all, but I still mostly enjoyed it. My only real qualms was it got repetitive and the main story actually felt too long because of the repetition.The directors comments however, will now make me think twice before purchasing anything else he's involved in.

Maybe if your game didn’t have the worlds shittiest driving controls for a game that’s geared around it..it would have sold better

I was so excited for this game, but it felt like you where trying to drive on ice, with a delay

I don't know anything about this game, except when it showed up on PS Plus for free on my partner's PS4. It took us eight tries to get past the first actual playable content (driving the motorcycle), and I lost interest after that.

Not saying both of you aren't being truthful. I personally had no issues with the driving.

The game is garbage. His claims about the woke cancer is justified, though.

No, they aren't justified. The game has VERY good user reviews.

I don't even want to play it - even if it's free, therefore I didn't pirate it. So in a way he was right, no one bothered to play his game. He was also right about woke reviewers too, but no one care about his game.

No, he was not right that no one bothered to play it. Tons of people did. Enough to warrant a PC port. He was also not right about the woke reviewers. That was a VERY, VERY small percentage. As already stated, the game has pretty great user scores.

The woke movement becomes as bad as extreme right and left wing movements. Although the ground principels are good (promote diversity) It also has become something politcial and the so called cancel-culture is a direct consequence of extreme woke. As is self censoring: Even stand-up comedians are afraid to say something considered to be out of line.

'If you are not with us, you are against us'.... and that is a fascist standpoint.
Just live together in peace and if something is said or done what you do not like. Say or do something you do like.

All but the "ground principles are good" part can also be said of the "anti-woke" mob.

He listed three legit reasons, the last one was the woke stuff. Weird reaction online since it’s true, the handful of reviews in question specifically mentioned stuff about race and what the zombies looked like. I hate journalists these days.

Also how stupid are most of you here? Even in the forum it’s laid out.
Three reasons:
1. it had tech issues like bugs, streaming and frame rate;
2. it had reviewers who couldn’t be bothered to actually play the game
3. And three, it had woke reviewers who couldn’t handle a gruff white biker looking at his date's ass

The only legit reason was the first point and those things were patched. Points two and three are complete nonsense. Again, enough people played and enjoyed it to warrant a PC port. The user reviews also show a very different story than the director has. You even stated yourself that it was only a "HANDFUL of reviews" that were woke. Also, the early poor reviews can be attributed more towards fanboys giving 0's because it wasn't on Xbox, than they can be for any other reason. It happens all the time, then the scores become more accurate after the crybabies have had their fun. How stupid are you?
 
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I dunno, I bought the PC version and it's an alright game, I bought it for what it is at face, something to play riding around on a motorcycle and scavenge while killing zombies. Garvin REALLY needs to chill though, having a meltdown in public because someone don't like or buy your game just makes you look weak and crazy.

Market the next one better and move on. If I wasn't following it already I would have never even known they made a PC port.
 

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The most "woke" people are the "anti-woke" that go around constantly telling everyone how "woke" things are. It always amuses me how they don't see the hypocrisy in their own statements. The director is full of shit. The game has an 8.4 user score for the PS4 version on Metacritic and an 8.8 for the PC version. "Woke" reviewers has absolutely NOTHING to do with it. It also obviously did well enough to receive the PC port to begin with.

I enjoyed the game and paid full price on release. Best game I've ever played? Not at all, but I still mostly enjoyed it. My only real qualms was it got repetitive and the main story actually felt too long because of the repetition.The directors comments however, will now make me think twice before purchasing anything else he's involved in.





Not saying both of you aren't being truthful. I personally had no issues with the driving.



No, they aren't justified. The game has VERY good user reviews.



No, he was not right that no one bothered to play it. Tons of people did. Enough to warrant a PC port. He was also not right about the woke reviewers. That was a VERY, VERY small percentage. As already stated, the game has pretty great user scores.



All but the "ground principles are good" part can also be said of the "anti-woke" mob.



The only legit reason was the first point and those things were patched. Points two and three are complete nonsense. Again, enough people played and enjoyed it to warrant a PC port. The user reviews also show a very different story than the director has. You even stated yourself that it was only a "HANDFUL of reviews" that were woke. Also, the early poor reviews can be attributed more towards fanboys giving 0's because it wasn't on Xbox, than they can be for any other reason. It happens all the time, then the scores become more accurate after the crybabies have had their fun. How stupid are you?
You’re not making any sense at all. There is no logic in this post. There were professional reviews that were “woke” and were full of shit, you can’t wave it away by misrepresenting what was said or talking about something else.
 

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You’re not making any sense at all. There is no logic in this post. There were professional reviews that were “woke” and were full of shit, you can’t wave it away by misrepresenting what was said or talking about something else.

You're not making any sense at all. You're right, there was no logic in your post. Of course t here were woke reviews. Me trying to "wave it away" is just something you read into things all on your own. Fact remains that reviews across the board are favorable & the amount of woke user AND "professional" reviews still amount to a handful. You're the one seemingly misrepresenting things into a bigger deal than they actually were, just like the director. Might want to think about your own logic before accusing someone else of having none.
 
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You're not making any sense at all. You're right, there was no logic in your post. Of course t here were woke reviews. Me trying to "wave it away" is just something you read into things all on your own. Fact remains that reviews across the board are favorable & the amount of woke user AND "professional" reviews still amount to a handful. You're the one seemingly misrepresenting things into a bigger deal than they actually were, just like the director. Might want to think about your own logic before accusing someone else of having none.
go pound sand, cant speak logically to a person like you so Ill just go down to your level.
 
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the game was a disaster almost as bad as cyberpunk! and he wonders why it's getting bad reviews? :rofl:

What? Not this again, with another person. Steam reviews are "Very Positive" and critic/user averages on Metacritic are 71/8.1 for the PS4 version and 76/8.8 for the PC version. Yeah. HORRIBLE reviews. Again, the bad/woke reviews were in the minority. And I guarantee many of those were just release day Xbox fanboys tossing out 0's becasue they couldn't play it.
 
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After explaining things to you pretty logically, you're going to reply with a "go pound sand" comment then criticize someone elses ability to speak logically? :rofl::rofl::rofl:
You didn’t explain anything logically, but I can see that you are likely mentally ill. The out of place laughing emojis is a give away for someone who needs to get outside and face reality. You are trying to say the woke reviewers don’t count at all because there wasn’t many of them, yet the developer in question only listed it as one reason… and the not even the main one. Not to mention that many of these woke reviews appeared in the most visited game related websites. So yes they did have an effect, nobody said they were the majority and you are acting like an idiot.

Are you going to go try to backtrack and create some new reality in your head again now?
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What? Not this again, with another person. Steam reviews are "Very Positive" and critic/user averages on Metacritic are 71/8.1 for the PS4 version and 76/8.8 for the PC version. Yeah. HORRIBLE reviews. Again, the bad/woke reviews were in the minority. And I guarantee many of those were just release day Xbox fanboys tossing out 0's becasue they couldn't play it.
He’s a as talking about published reviews you idiot.
 
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You are trying to say the woke reviewers don’t count at all because there wasn’t many of them,

Are you going to go try to backtrack and create some new reality in your head again now?

He’s a as talking about published reviews you idiot.

No. I am not trying to say that at all. What I'm saying is that logically, the majority positive reviews across the board contradict that the handful of poor (professional, published, whatever you want to call them ) critic reviews were a cause for poor reception and sales. Logically, it appears the majority did not care what those handful of critics thought. They purchased it, played it, and gave it a positive rating regardless. So logically, his third point is bs. The handful of woke critic reviews did not influence the majority in the negative manner he spoke of.

I never backtracked to begin with, nor did I create some "new reality".

I did mention those specifically for you in my last post, because I knew you'd throw a fit about it if I didn't. Didn't help though.
 
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No. I am not trying to say that at all. What I'm saying is that logically, the majority positive reviews across the board contradict that the handful of poor (professional, published, whatever you want to call them ) critic reviews were a cause for poor reception and sales. Logically, it appears the majority did not care what those handful of critics thought. They purchased it, played it, and gave it a positive rating regardless. So logically, his third point is bs. The handful of woke critic reviews did not influence the majority in the negative manner he spoke of.

I never backtracked to begin with, nor did I create some "new reality".

I did mention those specifically for you in my last post, because I knew you'd throw a fit about it if I didn't. Didn't help though.
That still is nonsense. You are saying out of the people who bought it and actually played it, most liked it. The people influenced by the published reviews didn’t buy the game, why would anyone have to explain that? The game also did not sell anywhere near 8 million copies. Many got it for free on ps plus later, at which point it was too late for this game.
 
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That still is nonsense. You are saying out of the people who bought it and actually played it, most liked it. The people influenced by the published reviews didn’t buy the game, why would anyone have to explain that? The game also did not sell anywhere near 8 million copies. Many got it for free on ps plus later, at which point it was too late for this game.

Out of the people who bought and played it, yes, logically the user reviews tell us that most of them liked it. And no shit genius, that most people influenced by the negative published reviews didn't buy it. It's pretty logical to assume they didn't. A better question is why would you think you needed to explain that? There is logical answer for that too. You didn't. I've never stated or even hinted that most influenced by those reviews had still purchased, played and enjoyed the game. Once again, you're putting words in my mouth and creating new arguments that never existed to begin with. That's on you. Not me.

Internet Archive also proves you (and the director) wrong. Majority of reviews were very positive right from the start. And no, having a majority of positive does not erase the negative (not sure why you oddly keep making that argument when I've never stated or debated it), but it does logically make very clear that the small amount of woke reviews did not influence the majority of peoples decision to buy, play, and enjoy the game ever since release. Not this "Blah blah blah free on ps plus later" garbage.

Fact of the matter is your logic sucks. And with your name calling, anger outbursts, and attack on mental illness, I'd say you're the one here with some stability problems. I've presented my case with plenty of logic. Yourself on the other hand, have presented not much but a bunch of hot air, name calling, and anger issues. Cope. Logic clearly says you need to cope.
 
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Is that only about PC version? Cause for years it's been on playstation only and if it didn't sell there it surely wasn't anything to do with piracy cause how many PS4 are hacked to run games out there... I mean there surely can't be a huge number of hacked PS4 running pirated games.

I actually had bought the game on my PS4 Pro before the PC release and finished and totally liked the game but for way too many time I was always in doubt of buying it, it's not like when a new Gran Turismo is coming out which 4 me must be a INSTANT BUY :)
 

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This guy is a very cool dude who takes personal responsibility for his shortcomings, not some whiny woke bitch like all the reviewers out there today.
Funnily enough, I've seen personal responsibility discussed aplenty, even in spite of ones' marginalization.
Just not the kind of "personal responsibility" overly mythologized through economic lenses that always conveniently leave out parts about rich parents or owning an emerald mine in an apartheid state. Or both :P
 

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