Ticket cleaner

mrmagicm · Nov 29, 2022

Hadn't seen it before but....New usefull app I think!!!!

https://apps.fortheusers.org/wiiu/TicketCleaner

He did it again!! Without knowing it (maybe).......V10lator (creator of Ticket Cleaner) replied to the call of a user (toxic9) in need!!
https://gbatemp.net/threads/delete-unused-tickets-on-wiiu.606167/

This app may help get a bit of space on the wiiU but also might help when a game won't download properly from the shop.

Thanks to Him!!

TheDerpyDolphin · Nov 29, 2022

Interesting. Will this also remove icons of games I've deleted from the picture match minigame the eShop plays when it loads?

V10lator · Nov 29, 2022

DerpyDolphin said:
Interesting. Will this also remove icons

No. It will just clean the files at storage_slc:/sys/rights/tickets/apps.

Cleaning means it checks if the title is installed. If not the ticket gets deleted. It also checks if there are multiple tickets for the same title and if so removes all but the first (except for DLC as this is the only valid case for a single title to have multiple tickets).

In a test run it deleted 310 tickets from a single console... ^^

mrmagicm · Nov 29, 2022

Question: I was wondering, Is it possible that there is old files files not needed anymore elsewhere in some other directories?
I Like your Idea of ticket cleaning=> This kind of tool could even become the "Ccleaner" of the wiiU

ber71 · Nov 30, 2022

What happens if you run this program when the usb drive is detached? The games on that drive are not treated as installed? Wondering about the consequences.

godreborn · Nov 30, 2022

ber71 said:
What happens if you run this program when the usb drive is detached? The games on that drive are not treated as installed? Wondering about the consequences.

Probably, wouldn't know the games are installed. I think one of the batista files identifies the game location, and I think that's on the mlc.

OrGoN3 · Nov 30, 2022

Devil's advocate here. In what scenario would I want to use this?

godreborn · Nov 30, 2022

OrGoN3 said:
Devil's advocate here. In what scenario would I want to use this?

If you buy a game on the eshop, it will not install if there's a fake ticket at top of the ticket bucket.

Lostbhoy · Nov 30, 2022

godreborn said:
If you buy a game on the eshop, it will not install if there's a fake ticket at top of the ticket bucket.

Why on earth would you..... Never mind!

mrmagicm · Nov 30, 2022

Not only losboy/Godreborn, it can also work in another scenario, you try to download a game with Nusspli and there's a bug, so it can correct this type of pb I suppose, it's kinda rare, but also healthy for a wiiU.
Ber71's question is interesting.....(even if I don't use an external HDD myself for games).

V10lator · Nov 30, 2022

OrGoN3 said:
Devil's advocate here. In what scenario would I want to use this?

As said: It deleted 310 tickets on a Wii U. The Wii U still works fine, all titles start just like before. So these 310 tickets where just garbage collected over years of usage.
I'm not sure where all these garbage ticket come from but I think the chance of collecting garbage is the higher the more titles you install from differrent sources (like download a game with FunkiiU, install it, now download the same game with Wii U USB helper and install it, too: You have two tickets for just one game as the tickets differ slightly).

mrmagicm said:
Not only losboy/Godreborn, it can also work in another scenario, you try to download a game with Nusspli and there's a bug, so it can correct this type of pb I suppose, it's kinda rare, but also healthy for a wiiU.

Yes, it fixes such issues, too, but to be fair this shouldn't be needed anymore: NUSspli uninstalls a title before installing (to allow homebrew channel updates with ease) and (since version 1.125) it deletes the corresponding tickets, too.
As if this wouldn't be enough: Since NUSspli 1.125 it will even try to detect and correct broken tickets before installation.

So in case you have something with a broken ticket installed just install it again with newest NUSspli version and all should work...

//EDIT: And yes, the ticket cleaner uses codes and experiences from NUSspli: NUSspli was able to delete tickets before the cleaner existed.

//EDIT²: In case you reinstall a title with newest NUSspli but this does not fix the issue NUSspli wasn't able to correctly identify the broken ticket. No need to redownload through: Just delete the title.tik file from the download folder and use NUSsplis "create a fake <titke.tik> file" option, then install the result.

Lostbhoy · Nov 30, 2022

Just curious.... Is there any evidence to suggest that the unused tickets are causing any problems?

Its not windows so does removing them have any performance or any positive effects? Storage??

Deleted member 571007 · Nov 30, 2022

Lostbhoy said:
Just curious.... Is there any evidence to suggest that the unused tickets are causing any problems?

Usually iirc the main issue is just that if you're clogged up with fake tickets it can become a pain to install anything else that has corresponding information. So being able to remove the un-used ones en-mass can be extremely helpful for those that constantly Re-Install / Delete titles on a frequent basis. This could also apply to creating your own App and / or Forwarder as I've run into Ticket issues when creating those as well.

Basically it's just a catch-all for those types of issues.

V10lator · Nov 30, 2022

@Lostbhoy Less used space means more free cells for wear leveling which in return means higher lifetime. Well, at least in theory, we don't know how exactly Nintendo handles the NAND chips.

Other than that let me quote:

Billy Acuña said:
every time you install a CIA (or download something from eshop/freeshop), it installs a ticket and is not removed, no matter if you unistall these apps

(Source: https://gbatemp.net/threads/release-tiksweep-remove-unused-tickets.437438/post-6590390 )

Translating from 3DS to Wii U:
every time you install a WUP package (or download something from eShop/NUSspli/Wii U USB Helper/...), it installs a ticket and is not removed, no matter if you uninstall these apps

So did you ever play demos on your Wii U? The tickets are still there. Ever uninstalled a game you didn't like? Ticket is still there. Ever uninstalled a homebrew channel / forwarder? Ticket is still there and so on. All of these tickets are garbage you don't need, so why keep that garbage?

Maybe you'll find more reasons for why this is usefull at this thread (which is basically about a similiar tool just for the 3DS) : https://gbatemp.net/threads/release-tiksweep-remove-unused-tickets.437438/

eeL20 · Nov 30, 2022

i wanted to try this and i got "Libmocha error: -0x0011!, press home to exit"

V10lator · Nov 30, 2022

@eeL20 That error is "unsupported command" ( https://github.com/wiiu-env/libmocha/blob/main/include/mocha/mocha.h#L21 ). Without going into technical detail: You need a recent Tiramisu or Aroma version for this. So go to either https://tiramisu.foryour.cafe or https://aroma.foryour.cafe , redownload the package and extract it to your SD card (overwriting existing files), then reboot the Wii U and it should work.

//EDIT:

mrmagicm said:
Question: I was wondering, Is it possible that there is old files files not needed anymore elsewhere in some other directories?

Yes, at storage_usb:/usr/import/ and/or storage_mlc:/usr/import/. Normally there shouldn't be garbage through (both, CafeOS and NUSspli try to clean up these directories in case of a failed install) and you can easily delete it by just entering the Wii Us data management (it should tell you that junk had been found and ask if you want to delete it).

mrmagicm · Nov 30, 2022

If storage_usb:/usr/import/ and storage_mlc:/usr/import/ are the only place where trash can be, can the tool had funcion to wipe at those place at same time? (maybe already done I suppose), also what about ber71's question, would you have to redownload the game after cleanup if game is on Hdd? Anyway, nice stand alone tool!

V10lator · Nov 30, 2022

I really don't know about the question of @ber71 . My guess would be that yes: You have to redownload (at least this is how it works on the 3DS: When you run tikSweeper without the SD card containing the games it deletes the tickets for these games, too) but it would need someone to test this.

//EDIT: For this someone: Backup the ticket folder with FTP before, then test this and in case anything goes wrong just upload the backup back to the SLC (overwriting existing files).

Lostbhoy · Nov 30, 2022

Thanks for the info and links @V10lator and @Korozin, as I say i was just curious.

I fully understand the lifetime theory however I personally felt that Nintendo would have had these set aside so they are not interfering... Memory not linked to anything else. Obviously the fact they are still there blows that lol but maybe some benchmark testing over time woud tell a fuller story. Interesting tho.

TheDerpyDolphin · Dec 3, 2022

Just tried it out and when I start the app I get a red screen that says "Libmocha error: -0x0011! Press HOME to exit". I originally though it meant I wasn't running Mocha but I tried again after running Mocha and go the same results. I even tried disabling Tiramisu but no luck. My console has the lastest firmware if that makes a difference.

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