Making modern weapons to be legal everywhere

lolcatzuru · Nov 26, 2022

Viri said:
Yeah, you tell those farmers, ranchers, and other people in the country, that lives hours away from the police, that they can take down a bear, wolf or any other wild life with rubber bullets or a taser. I'm sure hunters will love going hunting with a taser or rubber bullets. I'm sure the fisherman in Alaska will love to be armed with a knife and a taser, when being confronted by a Polar Bear.

lol you assume they think of other people and not just themselves.

pustal · Nov 27, 2022

TraderPatTX said:
If you'd like to live under an authoritarian government who employs slave labor and concentration camps, then go ahead and move there. Just know they are still locking down their citizens over "Covid fears" because the citizens there cannot fight back. If guns were legal in China, Tiananmen Square may have had a different result.

If people had weapons Tiananmen Square would have changed nothing.

It was a pacifist protest for starters - the whole power of that day and what it symbolizes is portrayed by a person unarmed defying a tank, and they were facing a trained army with tanks and all the military equipment. They would have been obliterated the same or worse because they could not concede escapees to regroup.

Same goes for the US and the people who says guns are for protecting yourself against government. The day the government unleashes the most powerful military on earth on your ass, no AR-15 will save you.

lolcatzuru · Nov 27, 2022

pustal said:
If people had weapons Tiananmen Square would have changed nothing.

It was a pacifist protest for starters - the whole power of that day and what it symbolizes is portrayed by a person unarmed defying a tank, and they were facing a trained army with tanks and all the military equipment. They would have been obliterated the same or worse because they could not concede escapees to regroup.

Same goes for the US and the people who says guns are for protecting yourself against government. The day the government unleashes the most powerful military on earth on your ass, no AR-15 will save you.

so what you are saying is, they will turn on us, and you are fine with that.

pustal · Nov 27, 2022

lolcatzuru said:
so what you are saying is, they will turn on us, and you are fine with that.

No, I'm saying that if they do, you are screwed, with or without guns.

But if you go on electing anti-democrats (with lower case 'd') to office you might just get that, and the only thing that will save you is if the military itself refuses order or divide itself and a part intervene.

lolcatzuru · Nov 27, 2022

pustal said:
No, I'm saying that if they do, you are screwed, with or without guns.

But if you go on electing anti-democrats (with lower case 'd') to office you might just get that, and the only thing that will save you is if the military itself refuses order or divide itself and a part intervene.

but how does that work? not electing the only people trying to help us is the better suggestion? is this compliance through threat?

pustal · Nov 27, 2022

lolcatzuru said:
but how does that work? not electing the only people trying to help us is the better suggestion? is this compliance through threat?

How is someone standing anti-democracy is trying to help you? And literally no one is making you a thread. Looneys with guns are a threat however.

lolcatzuru · Nov 27, 2022

pustal said:
How is someone standing anti-democracy is trying to help you? And literally no one is making you a thread. Looneys with guns are a threat however.

idk what that means, but, democracy is the core of the issue, we've always been a constitutional republic and always should be, and thats true, and they always will be even if guns are gone, its weird, apparently criminals dont follow the law, weird how sheep dont think of that, btw saw you gods recent photo, kinda embarrassing, who knew he was so flabby.

pustal · Nov 27, 2022

lolcatzuru said:
idk what that means, but, democracy is the core of the issue, we've always been a constitutional republic and always should be, and thats true, and they always will be even if guns are gone, its weird, apparently criminals dont follow the law, weird how sheep dont think of that, btw saw you gods recent photo, kinda embarrassing, who knew he was so flabby.

You have been electing people for office that deny election results and actively try to gain power to be able to change the outcome of future elections. Democracy is frail, Hitler was elected, Mussolini was elected, Putin was elected, Orbán was elected. Don't take it as granted, put the wrong people in power and democracy is gone.

And what the hell are you talking about afterwards?

lolcatzuru · Nov 27, 2022

pustal said:
You have been electing people for office that deny election results and actively try to gain power to be able to change the outcome of future elections. Democracy is frail, Hitler was elected, Mussolini was elected, Putin was elected, Orbán was elected. Don't take it as granted, put the wrong people in power and democracy is gone.

And what the hell are you talking about afterwards?

you forgot biden on that list, btw, did your guys denied elections 150 times? guess you are a maga, shouldve guessed. Btw, you should only say things if you are sure you are the smartest person in the room, but i guess, if CNN doesnt mention it you won't know

pustal · Nov 27, 2022

lolcatzuru said:
you forgot biden on that list, btw, did your guys denied elections 150 times? guess you are a maga, shouldve guessed. Btw, you should only say things if you are sure you are the smartest person in the room, but i guess, if CNN doesnt mention it you won't know

You realize I'm not even American, right? You live so deep inside a bubble you seem to have difficulty computing that. It's not on your talking points to deal with that, is it?

lolcatzuru · Nov 27, 2022

pustal said:
You realize I'm not even American, right? You live so deep inside a bubble you seem to have difficulty computing that. It's not on your talking points to deal with that, is it?

well then there you go, thats your problem

pustal · Nov 27, 2022

lolcatzuru said:
well then there you go, thats your problem

On the contrary, it's my blessing, I can go out without fear of being killed by an AR-15. I can also go out and get insulin to my stock without indebting myself.

lolcatzuru · Nov 27, 2022

pustal said:
On the contrary, it's my blessing, I can go out without fear of being killed by an AR-15. I can also go out and get insulin to my stock without indebting myself.

1. actually, statistically, most homicides are committed in major democrat controlled cities, and with handguns/knives. AR-15s are in the gross minority ( watch something other than msn)

2. you can do that here too.

btw, sorry to say, but you invalidated yourself when you said election deniers. see CNN is gonna tell you its only one side, but the left has done it many, many times. Btw, dont talk so poorly about the people trying to make sure you can do all those things.

fyi, we had a radical leftist attack the 3rd most powerful person in the country with a hammer, and as far as i know it wasnt automatic.

pustal · Nov 27, 2022

lolcatzuru said:
1. actually, statistically, most homicides are committed in major democrat controlled cities, and with handguns/knives. AR-15s are in the gross minority ( watch something other than msn)

2. you can do that here too.

You don't have gun control. Most homicides are done by handguns, then general firearms then knives.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/195325/murder-victims-in-the-us-by-weapon-used/

Homicides are at negligible levels here. We do have gun control. Guns are registered ammo is registered. To own a gun you have to have proper training and a background check that includes mental evaluation.

And again, you seem to have difficulty processing that I'm not American.

lolcatzuru · Nov 27, 2022

pustal said:
You don't have gun control. Most homicides are done by handguns, then general firearms then knives.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/195325/murder-victims-in-the-us-by-weapon-used/

Homicides are at negligible levels here. We do have gun control. Guns are registered ammo is registered. To own a gun you have to have proper training and a background check that includes mental evaluation.

And again, you seem to have difficulty processing that I'm not American.

actually we have very, very strict gun control, particularly in these areas where this occurs. usually its a liberal with mental illness, or a gang member with an illegal weapon, in fact 100% of them broke the law. Btw, all of those things are registered here too. No i know you arent american, but if we fall you do too.

pustal · Nov 27, 2022

lolcatzuru said:
actually we have very, very strict gun control, particularly in these areas where this occurs. usually its a liberal with mental illness, or a gang member with an illegal weapon, in fact 100% of them broke the law. Btw, all of those things are registered here too. No i know you arent american, but if we fall you do too.

Please tell me what specific control you have on ammunition sale then for starters.

lolcatzuru · Nov 27, 2022

pustal said:
Please tell me what specific control you have on ammunition sale then for starters.

depends on the state specifically, but just to give an example my state is a police state democrat controlled very violent, we actually just passed MORE ammo sales laws in our state, specifically, significant online purchase records, everything logged and special commie card plus license to actually purchase MOST ammo, some long gun ammo isnt because its reserved for hunting, which mostly is something along the lines of 12 gauge for example, but any handgun ammo is definitely logged, and you need to email your info or your arrested, or have your card in a store or automatically arrested. We also have laws on the books outright banning ( which is illegal) specialty ammo, so hollow point, fire rounds, shrapnel rounds slugs so on and so forth, and if you are wondering, no it hasnt helped.

Smoker1 · Nov 27, 2022

lolcatzuru said:
depends on the state specifically, but just to give an example my state is a police state democrat controlled very violent, we actually just passed MORE ammo sales laws in our state, specifically, significant online purchase records, everything logged and special commie card plus license to actually purchase MOST ammo, some long gun ammo isnt because its reserved for hunting, which mostly is something along the lines of 12 gauge for example, but any handgun ammo is definitely logged, and you need to email your info or your arrested, or have your card in a store or automatically arrested. We also have laws on the books outright banning ( which is illegal) specialty ammo, so hollow point, fire rounds, shrapnel rounds slugs so on and so forth, and if you are wondering, no it hasnt helped.

Exactly. Illinois has big time Gun Control, yet there are Shootings like no other, yet it is not mentioned in the News. Because they want the People to think Gun Control works.
The Colorado Shooter at the Theater actually picked the place he shot up because it was a "Gun-Free Zone" and he knew no one would be able to Protect themselves.
New Jersey, a Woman was scared for her Life, had a Restraining Order against her Ex, and it did nothing. He Killed her with a Knife.
In fact, a Study was done, and more People are killed with Knives, Pipes, Hammers, Hands and Feet, than Firearms. Rifles are below Handguns, even. Oh, but they want to make it so People think that ALL Shootings are with AR-15s, so they can try to Ban all Semi-Automatic FIrearms. Love how they say the AR-15 is a Weapon of War. Funny.......when I was in the Army, I had a M-16, not a AR-15. AR-15 is the Civilian Version of the M-16

lolcatzuru · Nov 27, 2022

Smoker1 said:
Exactly. Illinois has big time Gun Control, yet there are Shootings like no other, yet it is not mentioned in the News. Because they want the People to think Gun Control works.
The Colorado Shooter at the Theater actually picked the place he shot up because it was a "Gun-Free Zone" and he knew no one would be able to Protect themselves.
New Jersey, a Woman was scared for her Life, had a Restraining Order against her Ex, and it did nothing. He Killed her with a Knife.
In fact, a Study was done, and more People are killed with Knives, Pipes, Hammers, Hands and Feet, than Firearms. Rifles are below Handguns, even. Oh, but they want to make it so People think that ALL Shootings are with AR-15s, so they can try to Ban all Semi-Automatic FIrearms. Love how they say the AR-15 is a Weapon of War. Funny.......when I was in the Army, I had a M-16, not a AR-15. AR-15 is the Civilian Version of the M-16

im very familiar with NJ law, in fact in NJ its basically rape or jail . If someone breaks into your house to rape your wife or daughter and you shoot them, automatic jail, but they can have a gun, and 0 cash bail. The thing is, i dont hold it against the person, they are just woefully uninformed, im assuming the " guns bad" stat he looked at was actually the OVERALL gun death in america, not the gun homicide which we dont even rank top 10 in.

Smoker1 · Nov 27, 2022

lolcatzuru said:
im very familiar with NJ law, in fact in NJ its basically rape or jail . If someone breaks into your house to rape your wife or daughter and you shoot them, automatic jail, but they can have a gun, and 0 cash bail. The thing is, i dont hold it against the person, they are just woefully uninformed, im assuming the " guns bad" stat he looked at was actually the OVERALL gun death in america, not the gun homicide which we dont even rank top 10 in.

So basically, they want to give the Criminals the advantage, and have everyone be potential good little Helpless, Defenseless Victims??????? I would tell them they can go do something with themselves......preferably, involuntarily.

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