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Marc_LFD

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But I don't think left or right is conducive. I'm sure as life both sides are tired of this shit. Sorry about my clochinion. Tery P. ref.🤣
Excuse me, but did you mean to use the word conducive? I corrected on the quote if so.

I agree. Now, by definition Liberals are meant to be:

believing in or allowing a lot of personal freedom, and believing that society should change gradually so that money, property, and power are shared more fairly
Source: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/liberal

To be honest, Liberals don't stand for those values.

And the definition of Republicans:

a person who supports or believes in representative government
Source: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/republican

That's not what many Republican supporters are in favor of, rather they want less government or no government.
 

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Excuse me, but did you mean to use the word conducive? I corrected on the quote if so.

I agree. Now, by definition Liberals are meant to be:


Source: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/liberal

To be honest, Liberals don't stand for those values.

And the definition of Republicans:


Source: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/republican

That's not what many Republican supporters are in favor of, rather they want less government or no government.
Ok my typo but do either really fit that definition. Owner fonderers would rool over in there graves with what is going on. Sorry to include that is real freedom. Any none coscastiion or free geno belief. O our fonders are so prejudice! But freedom for all. (Joke included).🤣
 

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Ok my typo but do either really fit that definition. Owner fonderers would rool over in there graves with what is going on. Sorry to include that is real freedom. Any none coscastiion or free geno belief. O our fonders are so prejudice! But freedom for all. (Joke included).🤣
Neither of those definitions fit Liberals or Republicans, people just redefined them forgetting their original purpose.

That's why I don't associate with either.
 

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Welcome to the party, OP.

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Can we get a third for teenager that just discovered libertarianism?
Thought I better do it myself, or indeed libertarianism does encourage you to put the work in yourself

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Obviously yes. Capitalism has to keep us at each other's throats, lest we turn our glare to the billionaire ruling class which has stolen the future for several generations now. At the very heart of the problem is the fact that some people would rather worship the hand that feeds, even if it doles out only table scraps. Otherwise America would've had its own French-style revolution occur by now, if not several of them.
Occupy Wall Street scared politicians and the rich, and people with power so much, that they vow to never let it happen again. The poor being united would be terrifying to them.
 
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I never saw the word 'politician' in the discussions above. I think left alone, people would largely get along. Then introduce a politian who stirs up hate and intolerance to get elected to wield power and money forever and bingo! The entire political system is broken, with the left and right controlling everything and shutting out everyone else.
 
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I'm tired both dem and rep both don't give a damn about people and freedoms.

They both will do anything to get reelected and make that $ from extortion off Corp.

I honestly am tired of these asshole fighting a fake fit to make average person to back them no matter what they do.

I have lived threw a lot of crap by both but since 2020 both parties are using aggression to get more corp $ or to back reelection.

Why are we devided because we think only one side is correct.

Please think really since COVID both sides have manipulated us. (Backing is $). So I an old fuck say hell no to both

Are we really sheep.

Are we going to let a Rich people decide what we think.

Are we really devided. I think not I personally don't like dem or rep both are willing to sacrifice the common people to get more backing.

Give please honest though before posting.
Not a this lr or rl post what really is people not please a mind set but open thinking.

ok but the problem is, that doesnt really help right now, yes in a perfect world you are right, but the fact of the matter is we have one side saying they want your family poor, assaulted and compliant and another side saying maybe teaching kids weird stuff is a bad idea. I like your thinking, but we arent there yet, its freedom or communism, and sadly, you have to pick one.
 

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It's obvious. Freedom.

Many people died for us to be free so we can't give up freedom for the sake of being "safe."

oh i agree, though the ultimate irony, is team communism has had multiple of their own violently hurt and kill people and then blame team freedom for it. You know, someone should make a law that everyone must watch the black mirror episode about the guy who rides a bike to generate power for the elite, while living in a room with each wall being a TV, flooded with ads, maybe then they'd learn something.
 

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Down with the people who gave all the power to politicians and business men to run things for them. At the end of the day, it ain't the party, it's you who has failed and those who came before you. Stop participating in madness, then madness stops.
 

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Down with the people who gave all the power to politicians and business men to run things for them. At the end of the day, it ain't the party, it's you who has failed and those who came before you. Stop participating in madness, then madness stops.
While I would generally go with the specialisation is for insects approach to the world then I do have to note someone doing something dedicated is pretty much bound to be more efficient (economies of scale is a very real thing, likewise selling 1000 or something to one customer for maybe a bit less is a lot less of a headache than 1000 members of the general public), more capable (being self employed I also have to do my books, advertising/marketing, my website, stock control, customer management in addition to actually doing things that earn money where if I was working for someone I would just be earning money) or more even if people were equal (they are not), places were equal (also not -- there is a reason the Swiss and Mongolians are not major naval powers) and luck was not a factor (it is, as is "right place, right time"). This also says nothing about the growth at all costs thing that software companies end up having to be.
This pretty much ensures the continued existence of politicians and business types. The best I can hope for is noting that all businesses tend to end up top heavy (be it pointless laws, boss man wanting to have more people under him because it makes his bits tingle to be powerful even if it is pointless/fake, once useful person capture*, historical redundancy, Peter principle** or ) and with redundant equipment (this machine cost me £100000 to buy 20 years ago and will cost to dispose of it in addition to buying a new one and training existing people on it, someone with a blank warehouse can come in and get something new with probably far more functionality) and thus go bankrupt if they attempt any kind of major growth (all the world's longest running businesses tend to be small hotels, restaurants or family businesses operating from one location. Though enough of those get knocked out by one bad season, debt traps and whatnot that big companies can weather the storm of).
Politicians... unless term limits become a thing (and sometimes you might want people there with an eye to the long game rather than maximising their gains in money, connections or "legacy" over the time they have in, and still having the puppet master problem) then... incumbency rates the world over speak for themselves. Not to mention the career politician problem vs someone with actual skills but not in politics means at best you get the lawyers in there thing I noted in an earlier post.

*we don't have a job for you right now but we like your skills and don't want our competitors to have you so have some make work, an the related thing where you buy a company to dodge recruiting costs but end up with some useless people to also make a home for.

**everybody rises to the level of their incompetency and no further.

Or the shorter version. Human vanity, laziness and security. Nobody ever lost out betting wide on that. Though a eugenics project to weed out the followers of society... could be an interesting.
 

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Occupy Wall Street scared politicians and the rich, and people with power so much, that they vow to never let it happen again. The poor being united would be terrifying to them.
Republicans like Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan were terrified of the Tea Party and destroyed that movement. The uniparty protects itself. It's no wonder republican voters have become anti-corporations.

It's up to us to expose the uniparty for who they really are. They do not represent the American people at all. They use us to funnel money back to themselves and to retain power. There is no way these people are able to be as unpopular as they are and still win re-elections for 20-30-40 years.
 

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Republicans like Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan were terrified of the Tea Party and destroyed that movement. The uniparty protects itself. It's no wonder republican voters have become anti-corporations.

It's up to us to expose the uniparty for who they really are. They do not represent the American people at all. They use us to funnel money back to themselves and to retain power. There is no way these people are able to be as unpopular as they are and still win re-elections for 20-30-40 years.
You are right on there, though the thing is that the American people generations ago were HIGHLY against changes that were being forced upon them in this country, which directly went against the foundations and principles upon which it was founded upon. Yet there were others who were willing to take a check and served as the enforcers of these new unconstitutional norms. Then as each generation came into existence, they were a little bit more indoctrinated and complacent than their forefathers, and their forefather's forefathers, etc. To the point where Mandated Schooling came about and began to take away education from the hands of the family and use it to build an empire. And then they began to data base the students, implement Federal Testing, and then No Child Left Behind policies, and then Common Core, and then Mandatory sexualization of education, and the inevitable race baiting at the expense of true history, and now Trans kids in girl's sports. So what do the kids of this generation do? Support the trans kid. What do the parents do? Type on twitter about how it's WRONG, but we are all still playing along like any of this has to do with what America was created to be.
DUMB ASSES all of them! They deserve what they get. They don't discuss about how the culture has gone down hill, because they music and entertainment they listened to was corrupt and polluted, and only got more corrupted and polluted with every generation. In this digital age, "entertainment" serves as a stepping stone to normalize corruption gradually on all levels. It's simple, no one sees, no one steps up and says "WE DID THIS, WE WERE WRONG", rather they think electing officials and spending their money on non-woke companies is the way the truth and the light. Meanwhile their children walk around acting like was only the norm in the 1970's red light district era, as if that is somehow representing a perfectly normal repressed minority, and their politics is not far removed from Lenin, Trotsky, or Mao, except unlike those Marxists, they say they want to abolish Capital, rather than control it, though they are more than happy to bask it its fruits, by them selves iPods with little Anarchy stickers to put on the back, and contrary true punk rock, they are pretty well aligned with every "moral virtue" Hollywood and the Establishment at large is pushing upon us, part of which is in fact a response to Occupy Wall Street as what better way to distract and divide the angry masses than to divide them among themselves with wokeism, that endless critique that destroys all in it's path and builds nothing.



Again, DUMB ASSES! Fuck em'!
 
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The main issue with the two part system is that the moment i criticize one (and Republicans seem to want me doing just that over and over again), i get accused of being "extreme leftwing communist/socialist scum"... Aka a Democrat. Whereas i find them at best the lesser evil.
As in: they're maintaining the status quo. But doing something regarding the climate changes? Taking an active stance against Russia? Reducing inequality? Even fucking basic Healthcare needs so much defending a bare minimum that you're better off in 'less developed' countries (you're not really in a position to criticize Cuba when their system beats yours hands down).
Fuck... Even properly prosecuting a terrorist is too hard when he's a former president.

But are you sheep? Unfortunately, the answer's yes. You're given just enough personal freedom to voice your thoughts online but not to the point where you can make a change. For every one person you can convince about the rotten-ness of a two party system, biased media flips a thousand back in line.
 
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The main issue with the two part system is that the moment i criticize one (and Republicans seem to want me doing just that over and over again), i get accused of being "extreme leftwing communist/socialist scum"... Aka a Democrat. Whereas i find them at best the lesser evil.
As in: they're maintaining the status quo. But doing something regarding the climate changes? Taking an active stance against Russia? Reducing inequality? Even fucking basic Healthcare needs so much defending a bare minimum that you're better off in 'less developed' countries (you're not really in a position to criticize Cuba when their system beats yours hands down).
Fuck... Even properly prosecuting a terrorist is too hard when he's a former president.

But are you sheep? Unfortunately, the answer's yes. You're given just enough personal freedom to voice your thoughts online but not to the point where you can make a change. For every one person you can convince about the rotten-ness of a two party system, biased media flips a thousand back in line.
Cuba is so wonderful, people risk their lives, build makeshift rafts and traverse shark and jellyfish infested waters just to leave it for the evil United States.

I'm actually gonna share your comment with all my Cuban friends so we can all laugh at you.
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why are you even seeking his approval?
Why are you mad?
 

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