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Making modern weapons to be legal everywhere

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UK has a Ban on Firearms. Guess what they are dealing with now.............Stabbings like crazy. Gonna Ban Knives and anything that can be used to Stab People next????
 
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All weapons that are not mostly usualble for defense only should be banned worldwide !

I never understood why humanitys most favourite hobby is to kill each other and to make stuff that makes killing each other easier.


For Private people guns that shoot rubber bullets or electric guns should be more then sufficient if even needed at all ... guns that can kill should never be alowed in private hands (yes I am mostly looking at you America!)

For Countries and such air defense systems are really well and maybe some EMP rockets or whatever .... of course for the worst case some lethal stuff is necessary but then again there is a difference between weapons that kill many people at once no matter who they are and weapons that can kill specified targets not harming bystanders (at least minimizing the risk for them)
Well I tried wearing ancient,medieval helmet myself with welding sword. Metallic sword without being made out of plasma laser swords/light sabers. Are they would they in reality be real? That one from Star Wars,Doom,original Deus Ex. Are they made out of sun energy?
 
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No firearms in Europe please.
You do know that the World's biggest Arms Suppliers are: The US, The UK, Russia, France and China, right?????? Oh, and that is just the "Legal" types. The Illegal types are Classified like crazy, or they will naturally Deny it like crazy, to protect their Image to The People
 

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All I am here to say is it is going to get really fun when 3d printers* and cheap CNC machines become able to manufacture things from steels you would want to use here (even more crazy in the US when it is the receiver** that is the item they care about rather than pressure bearing components like most of the rest of the world, though even then there are shortcuts). Gunpowder is trivial to make as well.

*laser sintering of metals is a fairly high end industrial process but so was laser sintering of plastics and you can just about squeak in under 10000 USD these days.

**a favourite series in this (youtube version is censored because youtube so we have to go somewhere else)
 

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The Second Amendment is irrelevant to the debate on how to prevent the cause of shootings in the US. The problem really is the NRA advocating laws which allow mentally unstable people who intend to murder to freely purchase and own automatic weapons in more states than not. Thus you see the consequences. As a former NRA member and gun owner I canceled membership when these paranoid fantasies become an effective way to juice up memberships for lobbying against sensible ways to differentiate a qualified gun owner from a person who may be a serious threat to others. The extreme paranoid fantasy many people seem to suffer from started in 1999 or so after Oklahoma City. The fact many states advocate selling guns to anyone, with no training on how to use a weapon, store it safely and know the rules doesnt seem to hamper freedom but it would help prevent people who are only buying with intent to murder. That seems like it protects far more people's right who matter too. The people who are getting murdered and theor families have a right to not fear being shot in the back but a citizen or a govt law enforcement. Read the second amendment and tell me where the NRA stands if the govt isnt actually the threat they say it? Spoiler alert: bankrupt and imfected with Russian moles. Guns are out of control. Def blame NRA on this BS.4
Automatic weapons are not used in mass shootings. I didn't read more since you couldn't even get that basic fact correct. I figured the rest was more of the same disinformation.
 

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No matter what weapons get banned, other weapons will take their place. The U.K. banned guns, and knives took their place, for example.
That's not how things work, a knife isn't ever gonna have the same potential to kill or maim as many people as a thirty round magazine in any semi-auto firearm. Besides, the US is near the top of the list when it comes to the frequency of knife attacks as well, so clearly easy access to both only compounds problems further.
 
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UK has a Ban on Firearms. Guess what they are dealing with now.............Stabbings like crazy. Gonna Ban Knives and anything that can be used to Stab People next????
If you banned knives people would just stab each other with something else, or start using hammers or axes or something else. Acid attacks and Machete attacks are pretty common in UK. Personally I'd like to see guns being legal - it would even the odds quite a bit if you were about to be hacked up by a drug gang.
 
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If you banned knives people would just stab each other with something else, or start using hammers or axes or something else. Acid attacks and Machete attacks are pretty common in UK. Personally I'd like to see guns being legal - it would even the odds quite a bit if you were about to be hacked up by a drug gang.
Tell that to our Idiot "Leaders" here in the US. We have 1 idiot in New Jersey, saying the 2nd Amendment is meant for the Rich........basically saying the People dont have Rights, only the Rich.
 
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Depends on the country. I think Ukraine should allow their citizens to arm, because they live next to a country that doesn't want them to even exist.
This statement could be applied to any country. What if Mexico decided overnight that the US is theirs? Or if the US called dibs on Canada? Shouldn't they be able to be armed as well?
 
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What is considered a modern weapon? Semi-automatic weapons have been around since the 1700's. If you are talking about fully automatic weapons, those are prohibitively expensive and requires much more thorough background checks and costs. If you are talking about things such as nukes and missiles, then that is just silly argument.

What people do not realize is that in the 1700's, the American Navy relied on war ships owned by private individuals. It was also legal to purchase cannons. When the left makes the argument that the 2nd Amendment does not cover modern weapons, remember that the weapons from that time period are difficult to own today, unless they are disabled.

It is my hope that the left admit that their real argument is the disarmament of the entire citizenry so the government can own all the weapons just like what happened in Cuba, China, the Soviet Union, and Nazi Germany. This is one thing the communists and the fascists completely agree because it always works out in their favor.

Gun control laws are racist, sexist, homophobic and transphobic.
 

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No matter what weapons get banned, other weapons will take their place. The U.K. banned guns, and knives took their place, for example.

That's not how things work, a knife isn't ever gonna have the same potential to kill or maim as many people as a thirty round magazine in any semi-auto firearm. Besides, the US is near the top of the list when it comes to the frequency of knife attacks as well, so clearly easy access to both only compounds problems further.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_attacks_in_China

Compare the death toll with the US. It's easier to stop a kid with a knife or a hammer than a kid with an AR15.

So yeah, no modern weapons everywhere. I'll leave that craze to the US, thank you very much.
 
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_attacks_in_China

Compare the death toll with the US. It's easier to stop a kid with a knife or a hammer than a kid with an AR15.

So yeah, no modern weapons everywhere. I'll leave that craze to the US, thank you very much.
If you'd like to live under an authoritarian government who employs slave labor and concentration camps, then go ahead and move there. Just know they are still locking down their citizens over "Covid fears" because the citizens there cannot fight back. If guns were legal in China, Tiananmen Square may have had a different result.
 

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All weapons that are not mostly usualble for defense only should be banned worldwide !

I never understood why humanitys most favourite hobby is to kill each other and to make stuff that makes killing each other easier.


For Private people guns that shoot rubber bullets or electric guns should be more then sufficient if even needed at all ... guns that can kill should never be alowed in private hands (yes I am mostly looking at you America!)

For Countries and such air defense systems are really well and maybe some EMP rockets or whatever .... of course for the worst case some lethal stuff is necessary but then again there is a difference between weapons that kill many people at once no matter who they are and weapons that can kill specified targets not harming bystanders (at least minimizing the risk for them)

its weird that you never considered the fact, there are some shitty people out there, wasnt your guy like the king of bad people?
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With the Cartel, I wouldn't blame Mexican citizens for wanting weapons.

ironically, their government ( much like ours) is bribed by the cartel so they arent allowed to have them.
 

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For Private people guns that shoot rubber bullets or electric guns should be more then sufficient if even needed at all ... guns that can kill should never be alowed in private hands (yes I am mostly looking at you America!)
Yeah, you tell those farmers, ranchers, and other people in the country, that lives hours away from the police, that they can take down a bear, wolf or any other wild life with rubber bullets or a taser. I'm sure hunters will love going hunting with a taser or rubber bullets. I'm sure the fisherman in Alaska will love to be armed with a knife and a taser, when being confronted by a Polar Bear.
 

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