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Covid-19 vaccine

Will you get the vaccine?

  • Yes

    Votes: 500 67.1%
  • No

    Votes: 245 32.9%

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nah, fauci promised us another winter of death ( despite the fact even i think it was wapo saying most deaths are vaccinated ones) for the unvaccinated, i want my monies worth!
 
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Yeah or it could be the placebo effect at play as well. Could be a mix of a lot of things. I do think the placebo effect goes both ways too, people that are certain the vaccine won't work or is even dangerous may in effect will such side effects upon themselves if they were to get the vaccine. Our brains and bodies are weird like that haha.
Well, having natural and vaccine protection is a big thing to have, too. It's why a lot of doctors suggest getting the vaccine (if you haven't gotten one yet) after recovering from COVID for some weeks. Means more protection and a lot less chances of getting sick again, which also helps in decreasing spread, too, as the body is also fighting off against the virus in the body, so there's less of the virus to spread to others and therefore helps everyone overall.
 

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Well, having natural and vaccine protection is a big thing to have, too. It's why a lot of doctors suggest getting the vaccine (if you haven't gotten one yet) after recovering from COVID for some weeks. Means more protection and a lot less chances of getting sick again, which also helps in decreasing spread, too, as the body is also fighting off against the virus in the body, so there's less of the virus to spread to others and therefore helps everyone overall.
You say all that as if I'm not in favor of the vaccine. I'm saying I absolutely believe it has helped me, but I'm also saying there certainly could be other factors that has helped me get to the point where Covid doesn't seem to have any affect on me anymore. It's true of any vaccine, I absolutely believe they work, but I also know the placebo effect is real as well, and I've always believed the two can be working together, vaccines work, and when we truly believe they work, it in turn gives them strength in doing what they're meant to do.
 
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The department of justice defines mass murder as "3 or more". Let's hope there weren't this many who didn't consent to taking it. Let's hope their employers realized their employees could have just shown up to work asymptomatic with a negative covid test, and others could protect themselves against said employees with multiple doses of vaccine, masks, social distancing etc. Let's hope the humans are rational agents and don't need to hurt people "for the greater good". Let's hope that in the trolley problem, the unfortunate person on the tracks doesn't have their own lever which they could pull and direct the train back at the noble Utilitarian who directed it at them in the first place.
 
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The department of justice defines mass murder as "3 or more". Let's hope there weren't this many who didn't consent to taking it. Let's hope their employers realized their employees could have just shown up to work asymptomatic with a negative covid test, and others could protect themselves against said employees with multiple doses of vaccine, masks, social distancing etc. Let's hope the humans are rational agents and don't need to hurt people "for the greater good". Let's hope that in the trolley problem, the unfortunate person on the tracks doesn't have their own lever which they could pull and direct the train back at the noble Utilitarian who directed it at them in the first place.
The fuck you on about?
 
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The fuck you on about?

Well, it seems to me that if 3 or more people died from it and they didn't want to take it, then wouldn't that be mass murder? For the greater good of society? I don't have a problem with this as long as you are a Utilitarian and stick to that rule when it's applied to you. Self consistency and all that. It's an effective product though -- 4 doses in a year & still didn't stop transmission... if that's what they mean by "effective" then what do they mean by "safe"?

edit: I havent watched the "died suddenly" video, so I don't know how much of it is true. But I don't need to know, all I need is agnosticism or reasonable doubt of the product. It's a low bar for me, it's a high bar for you.
 
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I like that people can respect others not getting the vaccine and vice versa. I have no doubt that it has helped some and hurt others. I also have no doubt that the media-political complex completely banked on hubris.
 

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Well, it seems to me that if 3 or more people died from it and they didn't want to take it, then wouldn't that be mass murder? For the greater good of society? I don't have a problem with this as long as you are a Utilitarian and stick to that rule when it's applied to you. Self consistency and all that. It's an effective product though -- 4 doses in a year & still didn't stop transmission... if that's what they mean by "effective" then what do they mean by "safe"?

edit: I havent watched the "died suddenly" video, so I don't know how much of it is true. But I don't need to know, all I need is agnosticism or reasonable doubt of the product. It's a low bar for me, it's a high bar for you.
Sources to all of the claims you just made here.
 

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What "claim" do you contest? Can you demonstrate an iota of understanding or is this the thing you say when you cannot comprehend what someone is saying?
The post is pure rambles that vaguely implies something and quite honestly I want to understand what’s being referenced to in his post? Did people die from the vaccine? Is that what his post is about? Or is it just vague nonsense? You can say I don’t understand his post because I literally don't, it doesn’t make any sense because it’s vague rambles. When it comes that, I am just going to assume it’s claims about the vaccine and request whatever source he’s vaguely alluding to. It’s not that I am contesting anything because I literally have no idea what I am supposed to be working with here.
 

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The post is pure rambles that vaguely implies something and quite honestly I want to understand what’s being referenced to in his post? Did people die from the vaccine? Is that what his post is about? Or is it just vague nonsense? You can say I don’t understand his post because I literally don't, it doesn’t make any sense because it’s vague rambles. When it comes that, I am just going to assume it’s claims about the vaccine and request whatever source he’s vaguely alluding to. It’s not that I am contesting anything because I literally have no idea what I am supposed to be working with here.

Now you are rambling. I listed that as an alternative:

or is this the thing you say when you cannot comprehend what someone is saying?
 

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The fuck you on about?
I genuinely want to know what it is about the conservative skull shape that predisposes them to myopic takes like "if someone dies after being vaccinated, it means the vaccine killed them and the government is responsible."

Maybe they just wanna feel oppressed.
 
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I genuinely want to know what it is about the conservative skull shape that predisposes them to myopic takes like "if someone dies after being vaccinated, it means the vaccine killed them and the government is responsible."

Maybe they just wanna feel oppressed.
Either that or some vaguely worded post that’s just intended to sound smart or deep but is actually just a nonsensical word salad
 

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Either that or some vaguely worded post that’s just intended to sound smart or deep but is actually just a nonsensical word salad
Yeah, pretty much. I see them and that one crypto guy in the same light at this point, just aesthetics obsessed pseudo intellectuals.
 
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Yeah, pretty much. I see them and that one crypto guy in the same light at this point, just aesthetics obsessed pseudo intellectuals.
The Mr Pool method, just make vague enough posts that can literally apply to anything if you squint hard enough
 

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Calling people "pseudo intellectuals" to be condescending is ironic. It doesn't demonstrate a higher intellectual capacity. It's easily interpreted as envy.

Most people understand you have desire to feel superior.
 
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