Gaming Can someone explain CSO's?

sekhu · Jan 12, 2008

I don't really get them, are they converted from ISOs? Most, well may be all, of the backups I've found are ISO format, not CSO. I assume the cso offers some space saving, so is it best to run CSOs or ISOs? Are there any advantages in using one over the other?

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arctic_flame · Jan 12, 2008

CSOs are simply ISOs compressed with a fast algorithm. There's not many reasons not to use CSOs, but some games lag slightly when compressed (GTA is one).

sekhu · Jan 12, 2008

all right, thanks for the quick response

BoneMonkey · Jan 12, 2008

some games dont like to be compressed in CSO format and won't work properly or lag so you might have to stick to iso

test84 · Jan 12, 2008

some games dont like to be compressed in CSO format and won't work properly or lag so you might have to stick to iso

martin88 · Jan 12, 2008

Is there a list of games that cannot be compressed or will lag if compressed?

[M]artin · Jan 12, 2008

I've never run into any problems when compressing an ISO into a CSO (with UMDGEN) and then running it on the PSP (but that's just my experience, I've also never played GTA).

In fact, deleting the "Update" folder from the ISO (which you never need) and then compressing it into a CSO can save you quite a bit of space (hundreds of mb's from what I've done with it)...

pitoui · Jan 13, 2008

Is there an app where I can view my psp iso's to delete unwanted vids etc?

martin88 · Jan 13, 2008

QUOTE(pitoui @ Jan 13 2008 said:
Is there an app where I can view my psp iso's to delete unwanted vids etc?

Try UMDGen. I use it to delete to UPDATE folder in every ISO.

pitoui · Jan 13, 2008

Thanks UMDGen works great.
Is there a way to isolate videos(cut scenes etc) from the iso? I need to take off another 40megs off Pursuit force 2 to fit on my measly 1gb card.

jalaneme · Jan 13, 2008

QUOTE([M said:
artin @ Jan 12 2008, 09:45 PM)]In fact, deleting the "Update" folder from the ISO (which you never need) and then compressing it into a CSO can save you quite a bit of space (hundreds of mb's from what I've done with it)...

removing the update from every game doesn't work for all games, games like gripshift won't boot if you do that, also some games that are compressed to cso tend to go really slow and effect gameplay, i just leave the isos as they are most of the time.

myuusmeow · Jan 13, 2008

QUOTE(pitoui @ Jan 13 2008 said:
Thanks UMDGen works great.
Is there a way to isolate videos(cut scenes etc) from the iso? I need to take off another 40megs off Pursuit force 2 to fit on my measly 1gb card.

In UMDGen you can set a video as master and relink all the other videos to it.

hollabackitsobi · Jan 13, 2008

The lag thing is overrated. Sure it will lag if you have a slow memory stick and a your CPU set at 222 MHz, but if you buy a faster memory stick (I'd recommend a Sandisk Ultra II 4GB) and set your PSP's CPU to 333 MHz, you'll have no problems with anything. Plus, the space you save will be handy.

myuusmeow · Jan 13, 2008

QUOTE(hollabackitsobi @ Jan 13 2008 said:
The lag thing is overrated. Sure it will lag if you have a slow memory stick and a your CPU set at 222 MHz, but if you buy a faster memory stick (I'd recommend a Sandisk Ultra II 4GB) and set your PSP's CPU to 333 MHz, you'll have no problems with anything. Plus, the space you save will be handy.

Very handy.
For example:
GTA LCS Ripped CSO = ~309mB
GTA LCS Ripped ISO = ~630 or so mB (Same thing as the above but in regular ISO format)
~330 mB could be 2 more games such as Ratchet and Clank and Lemmings.

jalaneme · Jan 14, 2008

QUOTE(hollabackitsobi @ Jan 13 2008 said:
The lag thing is overrated. Sure it will lag if you have a slow memory stick and a your CPU set at 222 MHz, but if you buy a faster memory stick (I'd recommend a Sandisk Ultra II 4GB) and set your PSP's CPU to 333 MHz, you'll have no problems with anything. Plus, the space you save will be handy.

i have 4gb memory stick, plenty of space i tend not to rip anything from the game as i don't like incomplete isos, i don't mine reducing the file size to a lower quality for small games but not removing stuff, not that you can remove all of it anyway.

imtony · Jan 14, 2008

Whats a good cso convertor? I only have 256 mb right now that i stole frmo my sister's camera =T

arctic_flame · Jan 14, 2008

QUOTE(hollabackitsobi @ Jan 13 2008 said:
The lag thing is overrated. Sure it will lag if you have a slow memory stick and a your CPU set at 222 MHz, but if you buy a faster memory stick (I'd recommend a Sandisk Ultra II 4GB) and set your PSP's CPU to 333 MHz, you'll have no problems with anything. Plus, the space you save will be handy.

Sure, everyone loves a battery life of 30 minutes (small exaggeration). (Also: GTA still lags on a fast card at 333 Mhz, but only GTA)

[M]artin · Jan 15, 2008

QUOTE(imtony @ Jan 13 2008 said:
Whats a good cso convertor? I only have 256 mb right now that i stole frmo my sister's camera =T

UMDGENhttp://umdgen.ps3news.com/UMDGen_v4.00.rarhttp://umdgen.ps3news.com/UMDGen_v4.00.rar

(You can convert an ISO into a CSO and vice versa if need be)

gweedyj · Jan 15, 2008

how much does a 4gig cost?

martin88 · Jan 15, 2008

QUOTE(gweedyj @ Jan 15 2008 said:
how much does a 4gig cost?

About $60 I think.

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