About the Texas massacre and easy access to guns.

[Stealphie]

Mental health's obviously an issue here, but like, a kid with issues being able to get guns that easily? That's a fucking problem.

Mental health's obviously an issue here, but like, a kid with issues being able to get guns that easily? That's a fucking problem.

If you think "muh freedom" is more important than these tragedies then I don't know what to say, except, what the fuck.

 

[Dark_Ansem]

If you think "muh freedom" is more important than these tragedies then I don't know what to say, except, what the fuck.

It's worse. Some people here think that restricting guns will make Murica a "3rd world country, you know, like Europe, Canada and everyone else"

 

[KennyAtom]

This entire thread reminds me of this comic.

 

[Cortador]

(just to note, the person that shot the shooter was a random passerby border agent that happened to be in the area, but I digress)

The solution to this is a vast overhaul of security in schools. It should piss people off that these politicians have the gall to have giant security clientele for their rat asses and can ship billions of our dollars overseas to the Ukraine, but they can't spend any money to protect our children in schools.

these anti 2a politicians on Twitter that are standing on the graves of children to try to get stupid shit that wouldn't even help to pass like universal background checks or red flag laws are playing a cynical game. If they were serious about wanting to "do anything!", they would've tried to pass these types of security overhauls that could pass by a super majority in the house and senate

If people don't see how the media and politicians are using these moments to try to score brownie points, they're blind.

They try to increase budget for schools but any attempt is blocked by Republicans .

 

[Dark_Ansem]

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This entire thread reminds me of this comic.

Except that police department has one of the highest budgets of all, so you failed once again.

 

[KennyAtom]

Except that police department has one of the highest budgets of all, so you failed once again.

Except what you just said wasn't the point, the point was why punish us all for what one mentally ill loner did?

 

[tabzer]

He's making a joke about this particular shooting. The police stood around and did nothing for an hour instead of going into the school and killing the shooter. This was the normal thing to do 20 years ago, but most police departments now send officers into the school immediately, rather than waiting for SWAT to arrive. It's not clear yet why the police waited so long.

It wasn't a joke. It was sarcastic comment about the "joke".

The police did interfere and prevented potentially life-saving measures. It may have been better if they didn't show up.

 

[JuanMena]

Let's revive this thread. @Nikokaro nothing personal dude.




White kid with gun: Yay! High Five Maverick!
Latino with gun: He$ MeNtAllY iLL wE dOnT nEEd tO bAn GunS...

And this is why I don't care about anything that might happen in the highly hypocrite land of the free called America.

But hey, it's just me being me.

 

[Dark_Ansem]

Except what you just said wasn't the point, the point was why punish us all for what one mentally ill loner did?

Because it's one mentally ill loner PER DAY or so. And because american Freudian phallocentric obsession with gun has brought nothing but misery and tragedy to the US. As Reagan said, no reason at all to walk around armed in the present day.

Grow a pair and stop letting children die for your obsessions.

 

[KennyAtom]

Because it's one mentally ill loner PER DAY or so. And because american Freudian phallocentric obsession with gun has brought nothing but misery and tragedy to the US. As Reagan said, no reason at all to walk around armed in the present day.

I agree, no reason to WALK around armed. We should still be able to drive around armed, and keep our houses armed.

Grow a pair and stop letting children die for your obsessions.

Yes, because it's completely my fault that children are dying just because I like guns. Not a logical fallacy at all.

 

[CMDreamer]

Politicians don't care about people, but their own businesses. They get paid for approving laws that allow gun makers to keep providing citizens means of "protecting" themselves against others, but they will never ever will provide any mean to protect them against themselves, that's not just a matter about having guns at hand or easily obtainable, but about wrong cultural values, wrong educational systems, and mind washing discourses where each and every time "America" can kill everything that get's in their way and they don't take any responsability on the matter.

This issue has walked a very, very long way from it's roots, and US politicians don't have a FI about how to solve it.

 

[Dark_Ansem]

Yes, because it's completely my fault that children are dying just because I like guns. Not a logical fallacy at all.

It's a metaphorical "you".

 

[KennyAtom]

It's a metaphorical "you".

now what in tarnation is a meta-phor acial?

also if you're trying to blame me, you're just using dead kids graves to push your agenda. shame on you.

now lookie here fellas, this argument has no easy answer.

you guys always say, "Oh, but Kenny (or some other american, idk)! It would be easy to get rid of guns! Pass a law or something, remove a literal constitutional right!" But fellas, it would not be that easy, 75% of states would have to ratify it. But trust me fellas, you can't even get 45% of states to agree to stimulus, 75% won't even ratify a constitutional amendment.

Also our media pushes guns hard. For example.

Woke Up This Morning by Alabama 3.

You woke up this morning
Got yourself a gun

Call of Duty, Battlefield, Sniper Elite, all push guns hard and make them look cool.

Hell, even movies and tv shows aren't innocent of this.

Family Guy makes guns look like toys, and there are multiple movies I can name that make guns look cool (James Bond, Jon Wick, Matrix).

The point is, we are such a gun culture that most people won't agree to the gun control situation, and unfortunately, we are stuck in this situation forever. It's just the way society is, and unless a gun control country takes our country over, we won't do a darn tootin thing about it, fellas.

 

[JuanMena]

now lookie here fellas, this argument has no easy answer.

you guys always say, "Oh, but Kenny (or some other american, idk)! It would be easy to get rid of guns! Pass a law or something, remove a literal constitutional right!" But fellas, it would not be that easy, 75% of states would have to ratify it. But trust me fellas, you can't even get 45% of states to agree to stimulus, 75% won't even ratify a constitutional amendment.

Also our media pushes guns hard. For example.

Woke Up This Morning by Alabama 3.



Call of Duty, Battlefield, Sniper Elite, all push guns hard and make them look cool.

Hell, even movies and tv shows aren't innocent of this.

Family Guy makes guns look like toys, and there are multiple movies I can name that make guns look cool (James Bond, Jon Wick, Matrix).

The point is, we are such a gun culture that most people won't agree to the gun control situation, and unfortunately, we are stuck in this situation forever. It's just the way society is, and unless a gun control country takes our country over, we won't do a darn tootin thing about it, fellas.

You're basically saying: "I can't because I've been brainwashed by media that is stronger than my common sense"

Haha. Typical American.

*Fixed typo

 

[Dark_Ansem]

now what in tarnation is a meta-phor acial?

also if you're trying to blame me, you're just using dead kids graves to push your agenda. shame on you.

Why are you so obviously trolling.

 

[UltraDolphinRevolution]

Guns don´t just look cool, they are. They can defend the defenceless, be it smaller countries or weaker people.

In order to prevent school shootings, you just need a guarded single entry to a school. And a metal detector is not a bad idea either. Americans are guarding hundreds of bases around the world but the cannot guard their own border or schools. A true rule of the people...

 

[Dark_Ansem]

In order to prevent school shootings, you just need a guarded single entry to a school. And a metal detector is not a bad idea either. Americans are guarding hundreds of bases around the world but the cannot guard their own border or schools. A true rule of the people...

They already exist and don't work.

 

[KennyAtom]

You're basically saying: "I cunt because I've been brainwashed by media that is stronger than my common sense"

Haha. Typical American.

wait so I'm a cunt for just explaining why people probably won't go for gun control?

Why are you so obviously trolling.

Look, I was drunk when I wrote that, I'm sorry for drinking. Doesn't mean I'm a troll, unless you're so unfortunately set in your ways that you think any dissenters are trolls.

 

[Dark_Ansem]

wait so I'm a cunt for just explaining why people probably won't go for gun control?

You know, if you were raised in a normal family, you'd know that some things need to happen whether people want them or not. I'm sure your parents, no matter how strongly you wanted to touch fire, always stopped you from doing so.
Look at what President Eisenhower did when the American public gave that shameful answer to his racial integration in schools referendums: Muricans actually said "NO" and he (rightly) shamed all of them naysayers for being unrepentant evil racists, and did so anyway.

Politicians forgot that they're in office to do their job, which is SERVING the community. Even if means not getting re-elected. Which, frankly, is the best argument for imposing term limits on every political position: stop this crazy idea of people being taxpayer-funded for their entire life, and using political jobs as career trampolines. Throughout the world, not just in the US, we need to return to politics being a SERVICE, not a SELF-SERVICE.

 

[JuanMena]

wait so I'm a cunt for just explaining why people probably won't go for gun control?

Oh my, that was a typo...
But you do you