About the Texas massacre and easy access to guns.

[pustal]

I was not excusing mass shootings, they're horrible. I was just saying that they aren't that bad in the US, I've never seen a mass shooting in my life other than on the news. The only time when I've seen a shooting of any kind was when someone was killed at an apartment 3 blocks from my house with a pistol.

The only time shootings are seen on the news is when a ton of people are shot, and that's way overblown on the news. Are they horrible? Yes, but they are overblown and we don't deserve to lose our guns because of a few bad apples.

A few? Have you open the list? That's not a few.

And the ideia is for you to lose your guns or access to them if you are not mentally capable of handling your gun or if you have criminal background. You complain the problem is mental health. Yet you refuse to consider barring people in poor mental health to be restricted of owning a gun.

 

[KennyAtom]

You literally say that to be affected by a mass shooting, you need to be one of its victim, meaning you don't care about victims of mass shooting as long as it's not you

I literally never said that. Hell, a few posts earlier, I said

I was not excusing mass shootings, they're horrible.


...Are they horrible? Yes...

And the ideia is for you to lose your guns or access to them if you are not mentally capable of handling your gun or if you have criminal background. You complain the problem is mental health. Yet you refuse to consider barring people in poor mental health to be restricted of owning a gun.

Maybe explain that next time instead of just saying removing guns?

Since the liberals here talk about removing guns from everyone but cops a lot, I always presume it means everyone except stated otherwise.

I am sorry for misunderstanding though.

 

[Noctosphere]

I literally never said that. Hell, a few posts earlier, I said

but you also said this and I'm quoting

I was not excusing mass shootings, they're horrible. I was just saying that they aren't that bad in the US, I've never seen a mass shooting in my life other than on the news. The only time when I've seen a shooting of any kind was when someone was killed at an apartment 3 blocks from my house with a pistol.

The only time shootings are seen on the news is when a ton of people are shot, and that's way overblown on the news. Are they horrible? Yes, but they are overblown and we don't deserve to lose our guns because of a few bad apples.

Where else do you want to see a mass shooting?
When you say such stuff, it means exactly what i said, that you don't care about mass shooting as long as you're not the victim

 

[Bricked]

shootings aren't that bad in the US, people are just overreacting.

Hell gun deaths are overblown, they aren't too bad, it's just the really bad ones that get onto international news.

Recently released data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) shows that firmarm related injuries overtook car crashes to become the number one killer of teenagers and children in the USA as of 2020.

I would neither call that "not that bad" nor "overblown".

 

[Noctosphere]

Maybe explain that next time instead of just saying removing guns?

Since the liberals here talk about removing guns from everyone but cops a lot, I always presume it means everyone except stated otherwise.

I am sorry for misunderstanding though.

Well, here in canada, assault rifle and military weapon are forbidden to everyone but cops and military, so yes, I say it should also be that way in usa, it would prevent TONS of shooting

 

[KennyAtom]

Well, here in canada, assault rifle and military weapon are forbidden to everyone but cops and military, so yes, I say it should also be that way in usa, it would prevent TONS of shooting

hell no, the 2nd amendment says the right to own arms, it doesn't say "the right to own arms except assault rifles and military weapons!"

also every gun is a military weapon so technically no one except criminals will own guns, and now criminals have the upper hand, they can rape you now, shoot you, rob you, and since you are a law abiding citizen, you cannot do anything as the cops have banned guns for you.

 

[Noctosphere]

hell no, the 2nd amendment says the right to own arms, it doesn't say "the right to own arms except assault rifles and military weapons!"

also every gun is a military weapon so technically no one except criminals will own guns, and now criminals have the upper hand, they can rape you now, shoot you, rob you, and since you are a law abiding citizen, you cannot do anything as the cops have banned guns for you.

EXACTLY WHAT I MEAN, that fucking 2nd amendment is something from the past and should (must) be abolished

As for military weapons, no, not all guns are considered military weapons, far from that
Some are hunting weapons, some like handguns aren't either, those are allowed in canada to everyone
However, you have to be allowed by autorithies to carry it and/or own it
Because yes, some people in Canada are allowed to own a weapon but not to carry it, meaning they can only use it for self defense at home
As for raping robbing etc, yes the criminal has the upper hand. So what? With technologies these days, polices will trace the guy easily
Most of these crime are solved nowaday.
Those that aren't are for the most crimes of the past (80's 90's crime that have never been and will never be solved)
If you are that afraid of being attacked by stranger, there are other ways to defend yourself like having a selfdefence teacher to teach you and carry pepper spray or tasergun
Pepper spray and Taser are allowed and won't kill anyone and protect you

In short,your argument has no logic except for you

 

[KennyAtom]

EXACTLY WHAT I MEAN, that fucking 2nd amendment is something from the past and should (must) be abolished

If it's abolished, we'll become a third world country. Guns are good, and if they're banned, that'll suck. especially since we cannot protect ourselves anymore while the criminals can shoot us all they want.

Also, one constitutional right removed, more will follow.

Free speech is overrated, bye bye 1st amendment!

speedy trials suck, bye bye 6th amendment!

cops cannot take your stuff in your house without a warrant, but you have this cool ass xbox series x! bye bye 4th amendment!

As for military weapons, no, not all guns are considered military weapons, far from that
Some are hunting weapons, some like handguns aren't either, those are allowed in canada to everyone

That makes sense

As for raping robbing etc, yes the criminal has the upper hand. So what? With technologies these days, polices will trace the guy easily
Most of these crime are solved nowaday.
Those that aren't are for the most crimes of the past (80's 90's crime that have never been and will never be solved)

While that's true, will that be good for a raped robbed dead guy? no, that's why we need guns.

If you are that afraid of being attacked by stranger, there are other ways to defend yourself like having a selfdefence teacher to teach you and carry pepper spray or tasergun
Pepper spray and Taser are allowed and won't kill anyone and protect you

Yeah, but how long until pepper spray and tasers are banned like in britian?

 

[Noctosphere]

If it's abolished, we'll become a third world country. Guns are good, and if they're banned, that'll suck. especially since we cannot protect ourselves anymore while the criminals can shoot us all they want.

Also, one constitutional right removed, more will follow.

Free speech is overrated, bye bye 1st amendment!

speedy trials suck, bye bye 6th amendment!

cops cannot take your stuff in your house without a warrant, but you have this cool ass xbox series x! bye bye 4th amendment!

That makes sense

While that's true, will that be good for a raped robbed dead guy? no, that's why we need guns.

Yeah, but how long until pepper spray and tasers are banned like in britian?

I really hope you're not serious
a third world country?
You mean like Canada is a third world country?
You mean the whole Europe is made of third world country?

In our countries, most guns are banned from public peoples, are we third world countries? Hell no

And because one amendment (that as i said is something from the past) is abolished, do you REALLY think all others will be abolished too?

I guarrentee you that if assault rifles are banned from publics in usa, free speech will still be there, warrant will still be there
YOU are overexagerating, way way way too much

 

[KennyAtom]

I really hope you're not serious
a third world country?
You mean like Canada is a third world country?
You mean the whole Europe is made of third world country?

I was exaggrating, but it wouldn't be far from it

And because one amendment (that as i said is something from the past) is abolished, do you REALLY think all others will be abolished too?

I guarrentee you that if assault rifles are banned from publics in usa, free speech will still be there, warrant will still be there
YOU are overexagerating, way way way too much

Yeah right, they're always out to get you. Once they find out they can get away with removing an amendment, they'll remove more, and more, until it straight up becomes 1984 again and you're stuck in a hellhole.

 

[Noctosphere]

I was exaggrating, but it wouldn't be far from it

Yeah right, they're always out to get you. Once they find out they can get away with removing an amendment, they'll remove more, and more, until it straight up becomes 1984 again and you're stuck in a hellhole.

you are aware that 90% of americans want guns in usa to be restrained?
Why aren't they? Because of 50 senators, that's the only reason
I guess you are part of the other 10%

 

[KennyAtom]

you are aware that 90% of americans want guns in usa to be restrained?
Why aren't they? Because of 50 senators, that's the only reason
I guess you are part of the other 10%

well i'm part of it because if guns are removed we'll get fucked

they'll remove more and more rights because now there aren't good people with guns to prevent them from infringing on our rights

 

[Noctosphere]

well i'm part of it because if guns are removed we'll get fucked

they'll remove more and more rights because now there aren't good people with guns to prevent them from infringing on our rights

so your solution to mass shooting in school is the same as trump, right?
Arming teachers?

 

[KennyAtom]

so your solution to mass shooting in school is the same as trump, right?
Arming teachers?

well no, but yes as well.

We need more armed guards at school, any teacher who has demonstrated proficiency in gun safety should get one as well just in case.

 

[Noctosphere]

well no, but yes as well.

We need more armed guards at school, any teacher who has demonstrated proficiency in gun safety should get one as well just in case.

i see...
Well, if I learned something from Internet is there is no point in arguing with peoples like you
I'm so out of here

 

[KennyAtom]

i see...
Well, if I learned something from Internet is there is no point in arguing with peoples like you
I'm so out of here

what did i do this time?

 

[Noctosphere]

what did i do this time?

there is just no point in arguing with you
Muhricans who think that every problem can be solved with guns... there are nothing to do with them
We should exile all of them in Texas and let the 2nd amendment be there and abolish it in other 49 states
If it was that way, you guys in Texas would keep doing mass shooting and all other states would live in fucking peace

Then, maybe someday, you guys in texas would read the journal and see the big title :
"United States owns the record of number of mass shooting in the world"

You would read the news, thinking "HA, knew it, nothing has changed"
Then the news follows like this :
"60% of mass shooting in the world last year occured in USA.
However, in the whole usa, 96% of those mass shooting occured in Texas"

Trust me, if it happens the way i said above, that article WILL show up in New York Times someday

 

[KennyAtom]

there is just no point in arguing with you
Muhricans who think that every problem can be solved with guns... there are nothing to do with them
We should exile all of them in Texas and let the 2nd amendment be there and abolish it in other 49 states
If it was that way, you guys in Texas would keep doing mass shooting and all other states would live in fucking peace

Then, maybe someday, you guys in texas would read the journal and see the big title :
"United States owns the record of number of mass shooting in the world"

You would read the news, thinking "HA, knew it, nothing has changed"
Then the news follows like this :
"60% of mass shooting in the world last year occured in USA.
However, in the whole usa, 96% of those mass shooting occured in Texas"

Trust me, if it happens the way i said above, that article WILL show up in New York Times someday

wait, so you want people who enjoy guns sent to a single state?

I knew it, you guys want to send people to basically concentration camps just for having wrongthink. This shit is scary, and will always end badly.

 

[Noctosphere]

wait, so you want people who enjoy guns sent to a single state?

I knew it, you guys want to send people to basically concentration camps just for having wrongthink. This shit is scary, and will always end badly.

Have you even read what i wrote?

ffs, as i said, no point in arguing
See ya, wasn't that fun...

 

[KennyAtom]

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Have you even read what i wrote?

ffs, as i said, no point in arguing
See ya, wasn't that fun...

well it was pretty fun for me, hearing opposing viewpoints from others

unfortunately, those opposing viewpoints were wrong, and saying you want people sent to a single state just because they enjoy guns is unironically kinda scary, considering the fact that this could spiral out of control and turn into concentration camps just because you believe something else that the liberals don't want you to believe.