PS2 to HDMI adapter vs. Sony official PS2/PS3 Component cables resolution on the PS2

[BOBdotEXE]

What about PS2 to HDMI Adapter vs. Portta + OEM Component?

Either cable with the HDMI adaptor would be better than the ps2-to-hdmi,
Both the portta and ps2-to-hdmi have the downside of no 240p support (~3 ps2 games and most ps1 won't show up)

But you can think of the ps2-to-hdmi adaptor as a super cheap component cabled, and a super cheap hdmi converter all smashed together, that would be a bad idea normally, (you don't want to cheap out on anything that Handles analogue)
But these cheap combo units go for under $10, so they really cut corners, The image quality and contrast would not be as good, and you'll likley get a fair amount of interference.

The portta's not perfect, but it's a solid budget Analogue to digital converter, and it would be working with a much cleaner signal.

 

[Windows_10_User]

Either cable with the HDMI adaptor would be better than the ps2-to-hdmi,
Both the portta and ps2-to-hdmi have the downside of no 240p support (~3 ps2 games and most ps1 won't show up)

But you can think of the ps2-to-hdmi adaptor as a super cheap component cabled, and a super cheap hdmi converter all smashed together, that would be a bad idea normally, (you don't want to cheap out on anything that Handles analogue)
But these cheap combo units go for under $10, so they really cut corners, The image quality and contrast would not be as good, and you'll likley get a fair amount of interference.

The portta's not perfect, but it's a solid budget Analogue to digital converter, and it would be working with a much cleaner signal.

I forgot to say the Portta also has an HDMI output. Sorry, but what do you mean by either cable? I only talked about the PS2 to HDMI adapter and Portta.

 

[BOBdotEXE]

I forgot to say the Portta also has an HDMI output. Sorry, but what either cable? I only talked about PS2 to HDMI Adapter and Portta.

sorry, I meant either the Hd retrovision or the OEM component cable along with the portta would be better than the hps2tohdmi adaptor.

 

[Windows_10_User]

sorry, I meant either the Hd retrovision or the OEM component cable along with the portta would be better than the hps2tohdmi adaptor.

OK, but both (HD Retrovision and official component cables) would need an HDMI cable to connect Portta to the TV so wouldn't that defeat the purpose since the PS2 to HDMI adapter which is supposedly worse already has a HDMI cable or the graphics processed by Portta is superior to PS2 to HDMI adapter's and so it doesn't matter if it's connected to the TV by a HDMI cable like the PS2 to HDMI adapter's?

How many upscallers are there for the PS2? Portta, OSSC, RetroTINK 2, RAD2x, PS2 to HDMI adapter, mClassic, Pound HDMI Link HD Link Cable, LevelLike HDMI cable, maybe other ones? Do they all use HDMI cables?

 

[BOBdotEXE]

Ok, but both (HD Retrovision and OEM Component) would need an HDMI cable to connect Portta to the TV so wouldn't that defeat the purpose since the PS2 to HDMI adapter which is supposedly worse already has a HDMI cable or the image processed by Portta is superior to PS2 to HDMI adapter's and so it doesn't matter if it's connected to the TV by a HDMI cable like the PS2 to HDMI adapter?

I'm not sure what you're asking, if you're trying to figure out how it would connect it would be like this:

PS2-> Component Cable->Portta Converter-> HDMI cable->TV

With the HDMI adaptor, you have less parts to connect, (PS2-> PS2toHdmi->Hdmi cable->TV) ...but, by combining all the parts, and cheeping out on parts quality, you're left with a lower quality picture.

Both would require you to buy an HDMI cable, but you can even quality ones for around $5.

Remember, the PS2 uses an analogue signal, so unlike more modern consoles with digital video output,
there's much more that can mess with images quality after it leaves your console, and before it hits your TV.
(Hence why some cables/converters give better image quality than others)

I don't really have the expertise to explain it all, So if you have further questions, or want to learn more about PS2 image quality, I'd recommend checking out this video:

for a quick rundown on analogue vs digital, here:

 

[Windows_10_User]

I'm not sure what you're asking, if you're trying to figure out how it would connect it would be like this:

PS2-> Component Cable->Portta Converter-> HDMI cable->TV

With the HDMI adaptor, you have less parts to connect, (PS2-> PS2toHdmi->Hdmi cable->TV) ...but, by combining all the parts, and cheeping out on parts quality, you're left with a lower quality picture.

Both would require you to buy an HDMI cable, but you can even quality ones for around $5.

Remember, the PS2 uses an analogue signal, so unlike more modern consoles with digital video output,
there's much more that can mess with images quality after it leaves your console, and before it hits your TV.
(Hence why some cables/converters give better image quality than others)

I don't really have the expertise to explain it all, So if you have further questions, or want to learn more about PS2 image quality, I'd recommend checking out this video:

for a quick rundown on analogue vs digital, here:

Maybe I should buy OSSC but would the graphics be worth it? Does it really upscale PS2 games to 1080p? To be honest, when playing games on my FHD TV with official composite cables, third-party component cables and PS2 to HDMI adapter, the display looks the same (blurry), so who guarantees me it won't with OSSC?

Also, are there third-party OSSC, and if so, how can I be sure I'm buying the official one?

 

[BOBdotEXE]

Maybe I should buy OSSC but would the quality it offers really pay off its price? Does it really upscale PS2 games to 1080p? Do be honest, when playing games on my FHD TV with composite, third party component and PS2 to HDMI adapter all look the same and blurry so who guarantees me it won't with OSSC?

Also, are there third party OSSC, and if so, how can I be sure I'm buying the official one?

I don't own an OSSC, I'd suggest checking some youtube videos to get an idea of the quality,
That should help you decide if it's worth the extra money to you.

 

[Windows_10_User]

I don't own an OSSC, I'd suggest checking some youtube videos to get an idea of the quality,
That should help you decide if it's worth the extra money to you.

The thing is, there's a lot of upscallers so it's confusing.

 

[duwen]

Also, are there third party OSSC, and if so, how can I be sure I'm buying the official one?

Technically, they're all third party... it's the Open Source Scan Converter afterall. Because of it's open source nature you could actually build one yourself if you know what you're doing, and it would end up being a lot cheaper than an off-the-shelf product.
It's worth double checking what's included with any particular OSSC variant, as some include full enclosures while others are just the board and a single piece of perspex to cover it.

 

[Windows_10_User]

Technically, they're all third party... it's the Open Source Scan Converter afterall. Because of it's open source nature you could actually build one yourself if you know what you're doing, and it would end up being a lot cheaper than an off-the-shelf product.
It's worth double checking what's included with any particular OSSC variant, as some include full enclosures while others are just the board and a single piece of perspex to cover it.

It's so confusing to choose a good model.

 

[duwen]

Then it's really confusing for me to choose a good model.

Theoretically, they should all be the same (as long as they're capable of using the latest firmware) aside from cosmetic features.
You can find everything you'll need to know about the OSSC (and links to further info) here.
The official OSSC Wiki, here.

 

[Windows_10_User]

I can't tell you that.

That doesn't make any sense.. It'll surely turn off soon after the tv's been turned off. Or you could remove the tv's power cable from the socket when you're done with it, to make sure it doesn't get any power after..

I honestly wouldn't trust it, it could keep drawing power from the tv even if it's off, when it's still plugged to the power socket.. So you should remove the TV's power cable from the socket when you're done with it..

Yes, the portta will work with any component cables.

It has less options than the fancy scalers, so you may need to set the TV to 4:3 for some games.
But I think it's a great option for people just getting started, if you like it you can consider getting a more expensive scaler down the line if the advertised features appeal to you!

Theoretically, they should all be the same (as long as they're capable of using the latest firmware) aside from cosmetic features.
You can find everything you'll need to know about the OSSC (and links to further info) here.
The official OSSC Wiki, here.

I just recalled the PS2 is compatible with D-Terminal which can output 1080p so is it better than component?

Also, PS3 is compatible with component and D-Terminal too which like HDMI is able to output 1080p. Are they better than HDMI?

 

[CoolMe]

I just recalled that the PS2 is compatible with D-Terminal which can output 1080p so is it better than component?

No. 1080i is the highest resolution the PS2 can reach & it's only with one game (GT4). No kind of cable will change that.
I don't know about this D-terminal (sounds it was mostly used with Japanese electronics..), but i recommend component for PS2. Period!

Also, PS3 is compatible with component and D-Terminal too which like HDMI is able to output 1080p. Are they better than HDMI?

Hdmi is better for PS3.

 

[AkikoKumagara]

No. 1080i is the highest resolution the PS2 can reach & it's only with one game (GT4). No kind of cable will change that.
I don't know about this D-terminal (sounds it was mostly used with Japanese electronics..), but i recommend component for PS2. Period!

Hdmi is better for PS3.

It's not only one game, but you are correct about 1080i being the highest supported resolution.
I have heard that some games that do 1080i are using some trickery and it isn't native though, and GT4 might be the only one that does it natively (no upscaling or whatever). I can't confirm this.

 

[CoolMe]

I have heard that some games that do 1080i are using some trickery and it isn't native though, and GT4 might be the only one that does it natively (no upscaling or whatever).

Yes, that's what i meant.

 

[Windows_10_User]

No. 1080i is the highest resolution the PS2 can reach & it's only with one game (GT4). No kind of cable will change that.
I don't know about this D-terminal (sounds it was mostly used with Japanese electronics..), but i recommend component for PS2. Period!

Hdmi is better for PS3.

So, the official component cables arrived and although I don't notice a difference between them and the PS2 to HDMI adapter, I'm not having blackouts, although it was random and so I guess I should wait some time.

To have display in most PS1 (and some PS2) discs on my HDTV via component cables (just like before with the PS2 to HDMI adapter), I had to follow this (I didn't change offset settings but it still worked) and it seems I'll have to do it every time I want to have display in most PS1 (and some PS2) discs, which is annoying. What would I do if I didn't have a MC with FMCB and GSM? Would I have this issue on a modern TV if using Portta allong component cables?

It's not only one game, but you are correct about 1080i being the highest supported resolution.
I have heard that some games that do 1080i are using some trickery and it isn't native though, and GT4 might be the only one that does it natively (no upscaling or whatever). I can't confirm this.

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How can the PS2 support 1080i natively and upscaled?

Either cable with the HDMI adaptor would be better than the ps2-to-hdmi,
Both the portta and ps2-to-hdmi have the downside of no 240p support (~3 ps2 games and most ps1 won't show up)

But you can think of the ps2-to-hdmi adaptor as a super cheap component cabled, and a super cheap hdmi converter all smashed together, that would be a bad idea normally, (you don't want to cheap out on anything that Handles analogue)
But these cheap combo units go for under $10, so they really cut corners, The image quality and contrast would not be as good, and you'll likley get a fair amount of interference.

The portta's not perfect, but it's a solid budget Analogue to digital converter, and it would be working with a much cleaner signal.

Could you tell me which PS2 games are those? I no longer have any blackouts and black screems so it seems the former were indeed caused by the third-party components cables. It seems the latter were caused by the PS2 to HDMI adapter, which I find it odd, since it's new. Also, I'll buy a new TV and it will be 4K unlike my current one (which is 1080p). I guess I'll buy Portta and use it with official component cables.

EDIT: I bought a new TV (a 4K one) and I'm using Portta with official component cables and I haven't had blackouts (and black screens).

EDIT 2: I'll stop clicking the PS5's external HDD's power strip's switch overnight because after doing it next time, the HDMI switch (which isn't even connected to the power strip but to the TV via USB cable [and HDMI cable]), the set-top box and sometimes (which I also find it odd) the PS TV automatically turn on afterwards.

Also, it seems the PS5's external HDD is making a second noise even with the PS5 turned off and I have to click its power strip's switch or take its power cord to make it stop as well.

EDIT 3: I might take the PS5's external HDD's power cord from the external HDD's power input from now on to stop these noises even if playing PS4 games on the PS5 will take longer since it will take some time to recognize the external HDD to load the PS4 games on it or to recognize the external HDD to install new PS4 games to it.

 

[Windows_10_User]

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