Gaming I'm wondering why none of the big games that came out on 2021 so far aren't using Denuvo?

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Hitman 3 No Denuvo Cracked
Nioh 2 No Denuvo Cracked
Yakuza Remastered Collection No Denuvo Cracked
The Medium No Denuvo Cracked

Cyberpunk 2077 (insert jokes if you want) was released in December and did not use Denuvo and was cracked.

Most of the big games that came out up to two months before that used Denuvo are still uncracked.

Immortals Fenyx Rising Denuvo Not Cracked
Yakuza Like a Dragon Denuvo Not Cracked
Assassin's Creed Valhalla Denuvo Not Cracked
Dirt 5 Denuvo Not Cracked
Need for Speed Hot Pursuit Remastered Denuvo Not Cracked
Watch Dogs Legions Denuvo Not Cracked

Could just be a coincidence but it seems odd that none of the big 2021 games has chosen to use Denuvo and they're all available for piracy. It's not a huge sample size though maybe it's just those publishers preference not to use Denuvo. But there's no doubt it works. I'm thinking they have to pay a decent amount of change to use Denuvo though because I've seen where certain games like Resident Evil 3 they used Denuvo then dropped it after 6 months, and of course the game was immediately cracked afterwards. Like with Yakuza Remastered Collection I guess Sega chose to not use Denuvo and it's cracked yet the same company same series when it came to Like a Dragon did use Denuvo and it remains uncracked.
 
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I guess the title would make more sense if it said "I'm wondering why none of the big games that came out in 2021 so far ARE using Denuvo" I can't edit it.
 

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Cyberpunk wouldn’t have drm anyway due to CDPR and GoG.

As for the others, could be they didn’t want to pay for it and/or think they would be cracked relatively soon anyway.

For example, Hitman 3 might have a load of Epic money and Hitman 2 was cracked before release.
 
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I don't love Denuvo by any stretch of the imagination, but it's undeniable it's usually effective. While games like Red Dead 2 and Mortal Kombat 11 did eventually get cracked it took 1-2 years for those games. That's way longer than most games that are cracked instantly. As mentioned in the first post many big games are still uncracked while the ones that don't use Denuvo are indeed cracked within days. In all honesty pirates will pirate any game they can, but if they can't pirate a game it's the only way they won't. You can claim anti consumer all you want but if they stop the game from being pirateable then Denuvo has done it's one and only job.

Now when Denuvo effects the games that someone buys legitimately which it has before that is a real argument for being anti consumer.
 
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I don't love Denuvo by any stretch of the imagination, but it's undeniable it's usually effective. While games like Red Dead 2 and Mortal Kombat 11 did eventually get cracked it took 1-2 years for those games. That's way longer than most games that are cracked instantly. As mentioned in the first post many big games are still uncracked while the ones that don't use Denuvo are indeed cracked within days. In all honesty pirates will pirate any game they can, but if they can't pirate a game it's the only way they won't. You can claim anti consumer all you want but if they stop the game from being pirateable then Denuvo has done it's one and only job.

Now when Denuvo effects the games that someone buys legitimately which it has before that is a real argument for being anti consumer.
Meanwhile improper implementation of Denuvo result in massive performance loss, the game getting cracked in a mere few hours.
I've seen very few games, properly and correctly implement Denuvo without the performance shitting itself into oblivion. That's why people don't like Denuvo, it's been constantly improperly implemented resulting in retarded performance loss, bugs, and other issues.

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Denuvo has a higher chance of hurting the end consumer (bugs introduced because of Denuvo, massive performance loss) due to it seemingly really easy to not properly implement. And even then, the argument of Piracy doesn't really even work.
Nintendo has a a fuck ton of systems that are vulnerable to a exploit that requires almost not investment to make it work (rcm bug) and quite a few of those units are likely used for piracy. But despite the fact the games get leaked early, and dumped online. they still sell well.

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Also, Denuvo is online only, so if you have a shitty or non functioning internet connection (which there is still a surprising amount of people who don't) then single player games become neigh impossible to play for those people, because of denuvo.
 

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Hitman 3 has its own DRM, in that progress is online-only. You can get around that with a 100% save (or rather, could with Hitman 2) but it's still just as effective.

Cyberpunk is a CDPR game, whose parents company owns GoG. You know, the very Anti-DRM service.

Nioh 2 isn't remotely worth the investment, and Koei Tecmo has never used it anyways.

For Yakuza, Sega stopped using Denuvo for quite a few releases so far (Kiwami, for example, didn't use it at all) so it's no big surprise.

And a smaller company like Bloober would never waste money on Denuvo either.


It's not a "coincidence", just none of these games were likely to use it. Denuvo isn't dying, it'll still be around so long as that initial uncracked launch period continues to exist.
 
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Hitman 3 has its own DRM, in that progress is online-only. You can get around that with a 100% save (or rather, could with Hitman 2) but it's still just as effective.

Cyberpunk is a CDPR game, whose parents company owns GoG. You know, the very Anti-DRM service.

Nioh 2 isn't remotely worth the investment, and Koei Tecmo has never used it anyways.

For Yakuza, Sega stopped using Denuvo for quite a few releases so far (Kiwami, for example, didn't use it at all) so it's no big surprise.

And a smaller company like Bloober would never waste money on Denuvo either.


It's not a "coincidence", just none of these games were likely to use it. Denuvo isn't dying, it'll still be around so long as that initial uncracked launch period continues to exist.

Sega used it for Yakuza Like a Dragon in November. Of course it makes more sense to pay for it for a brand new game than a collection of remastered games that originally were PS3 games.
 

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