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The media is creating mass hysteria over the Coronavirus.

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people don't listen to scientists and get them and their family members killed? more than 7 million people took planes over thanksgiving week?
A lot of people like me feel this virus is what it is. You cant just keep living bottled up in your home till you die. Thats not living. Then you have people that are religious and believe they will go when they go its all gods plan. Then theres ones that just dont give a fuck. (I kind of fall in that category too). You cant just keep people locked up in a cage only to leave when they have to work. If its safe enough for me to work then its safe enough for me to play. With a .02% death rate im more likely to die on the way to walmart in a car crash (not quiet but still .02% isnt shit) you can die tomorrow from something unrelated to covid and what will people say...i use to know him but he was locked up at home for the last 9 months not living...kind of a waste of his last few months. If only he lived a little before then. Famous saying applies here (this generation made up or last hell i cant remember) YOLO
 
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“Why might that be? Because untrained members of the public are wearing medical masks, repeatedly… in a non-sterile fashion…
Yeah, dont do that.

- (One time wear) 3 layer chirurgical masks can be had for (looking at my amazon order history) 50 cents a pop (Amazon day deal).
- Microwaving them works.
- If you are wearing cloth masks, because you are more environmentally conscious, washing them (after use) works. ;)
 
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Read what you post. Dont just post based on headlines.

Untrained people are doing it wrong.

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Then why is the death rate for all causes lower this year than last year?
Because people are going out less due to lock down. Duh!

They ain't gunna die in a car crash if they drive less.
 

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Also, just saw, that this is his source:
John C. A. Manley has spent over a decade ghostwriting for medical doctors, as well as naturopaths, chiropractors and Ayurvedic physicians. He publishes the COVID-19(84) Red Pill Briefs – an email-based newsletter dedicated to preventing the governments of the world from using an exaggerated pandemic as an excuse to violate our freedom [...]
Ehm...

A ghostwriter for medical doctors, as well as chiropractos, ey? That scientific? ;)

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Then why is the death rate for all causes lower this year than last year?
Thats a lie. Over mortality is a thing. Deathrate for all causes is higher this year.

UltraSUPRA once posted a fake facebook meme, that only took CDC data from february until the beginning of november, and then refused to read the debunking fake news article I posted, because - he is who he is.

I even did all the math for him. Looking up the original data source. He didnt care. He wants to post "fear, uncertainty and doubt" snippets aimed at making you more fearful, when he isnt just posting religious propaganda. His world view is made up. His claim to fame is 'sticking to believes' and then only posting stuff that supports them. If that turns out to be completely false - he doesnt care.

Only redemptive quality might be, that he really thinks, that this is the most important thing to do, because those are the highest emotion stories he is reading in his news feeds. Antagonizing everything is fine. But sticking with the same level of believe regardless of any discussion you ever have with the guy is not.

Rebuttle then often is 'but why do you dont get one step closer to my position' and f.e. 'say that you are sorry about what you said about Trump, at least once'? Not realizing that the last time someone said sorry for what they posted on the internet about a politicians behavior, was exactly never.

But he then construes it to be a personal attack against his believes. You cant help that. People believe what they want to. Doesnt mean, that that makes them win a debate - because they have the stronger feelings.

That he doesnt want to 'obey' or 'conform' is ok, btw. I know that feeling. But its not the highest 'value' I hold above everything else.
 
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Just was reading my evening news and I have to say, if you are an American progressive who is still engaging in this nonsense hysteria your either are a useful idiot or a bad citizen for continually tolerating progressive leadership violating their own policies on a routine daily basis while they tell you peasants to stay home.

Austin Mayor (Democrat) Telling people to stay home, in a prerecorded video while on vacay in Cabo.

Until you people as a bloc/community hold these hypocrites to account you really should shut your mouths with the lectures.

 

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Just because people aren't taking this virus seriously, doesn't make it "nonsense hysteria".

Not to mention, what makes you think there aren't people trying to hold these people accountable?
 

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Jwhat makes you think there aren't people trying to hold these people accountable?

It is a daily occurrence now that aggressive mandating progressive Covid crusaders are caught violating the rules they are imposing on citizens. I've seen no evidence of outrage, coverage, or censure, of any kind.

Business's and people are being fined, having their professional licenses taken away, this hypocrisy from progressive politicians flaunting the rules they are promoting makes any one supporting these measures a laughing stock.
 

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It is a daily occurrence now that aggressive mandating progressive Covid crusaders are caught violating the rules they are imposing on citizens. I've seen no evidence of outrage, coverage, or censure, of any kind.

Business's and people are being fined, having their professional licenses taken away, this hypocrisy from progressive politicians flaunting the rules they are promoting makes any one supporting these measures a laughing stock.
looks like little baby is just learning we're an oligarch not a democracy
 

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US daily death numbers are now the highest they ever were since the beginning of the epidemic:

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src: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us

Thats the 'it takes 3-4 weeks for deathrates to catch up with infection rates' reminder for the BUT DEATHRATES ARE SO LOW, WE SHOULDNT DO ANYTHING, OPEN THE STORES! people. ;)

Relative death rate (compared to how many people currently are infected (much more than in April)) still is lower than in April, because medication got better, and people arent moved onto intubators as quickly (which has been shown to be a negative thing, if done too early) (Roughly).
 
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looks like little baby is just learning we're an oligarch not a democracy
Correction. This is 'representative democracy' at play. Meaning, your voice only gets someone elected, thats then making decision. You are not making decisions on your own, simply by 'them being popular'.

Thats the fallback, for people wanting Donald Trump types all the time... ;)

see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Representative_democracy

"Actual" democracy was mostly a thing in ancient greece, where the only people allowed to vote were representatives of the 'master race' (no slaves, no women, no people owing money, ... // have to own property) - so a smaller group.

The idea behind it is as follows. Democracy only works if you tell people 'this is the issue' now take 2 weeks to inform yourselves on it the best you can, and then make a decision.

Otherwise its people with no expertise picking whose face they like better.. ;)

In reality its always people with no expertise picking whose face they like better, but that doesnt matter so much - if that person "has to produce something" that doesnt get him "fired" by the public, the next time elections come around.

(So in essence all people being informed or not, doesnt matter at all. (If your system prefers sticking to small incremental change (that is not giving 'one person' the power to change quite a bit)).)
 
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Correction. This is 'representative democracy' at play. Meaning, your voice only gets someone elected, thats then making decision. You are not making decisions on your own, simply by 'them being popular'.

Thats the fallback, for people wanting Donald Trump types all the time... ;)

see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Representative_democracy

"Actual" democracy was mostly a thing in ancient greece, where the only people allowed to vote were representatives of the 'master race' (no slaves, no women, no people owing money, ...) - so a smaller group.

The idea behind it is as follows. Democracy only works if you tell people 'this is the issue' now take 2 weeks to inform yourselves on it the best you can, and then make a decision.

Otherwise its people with no expertise picking whose face they like better.. ;)

In reality its always people with no expertise picking whose face they like better, but that doesnt matter so much - if that person "has to produce something" that doesnt get him "fired" by the public, the next time elections come around.

(So in essence all people being informed or not, doesnt matter at all. (If your system prefers sticking to small incremental change).)
Look the US has already decided that money=freeze peach and that corporations are people. Let's not pretend like we're better here. Our rights are superficial at best.
 

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Look the US has already decided that money=freeze peach and that corporations are people. Let's not pretend like we're better here. Our rights are superficial at best.
Sure - but in that instance the problem is 'covered' by 'representative democracy'.

So "your outcome is like that, in the best possible case". You dont need oligopoly to explain it. :)

Outcome of 'real democracy' (direct democracy) would be much worse. (If 'asked for' in every instance. Again - tell people what the issue is and give them 2 weeks to inform themselves, before a referendum is the 'model' for direct democracy - currently. This means, you only can have them make 'a certain amount of decisions' every year before they feel like not trying to inform themselves.. ;) (Feels like work.. ;) ) )
 

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I've seen no evidence of outrage, coverage, or censure, of any kind.
You mean besides the news you are so quick to label fake, reporting on in? I see people from "both sides" over social media complaining about it.

Business's and people are being fined, having their professional licenses taken away, this hypocrisy from progressive politicians flaunting the rules they are promoting makes any one supporting these measures a laughing stock.
So, for example, if people support "do not steal" laws and people break them, then the people that supported and followed them are the laughing stocks?
 

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So, for example, if people support "do not steal" laws and people break them, then the people that supported and followed them are the laughing stocks?

No, if you are supporting mandates and lecturing citizens while ignoring the politicians violating their own mandates you are a laughing stock.

According to you this is a life and death situation that is killing people, shouldn't that warrant demands for resignation? Surely you expect a higher standard out of the person issuing a mandate than the general public.
 

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I was raised on the philosophy of george carlin. I feel the same way he did about humans. We are to self centered to understand we are not destined to outlive the planet earth and its apart of the cycles of life that we hit a peak and then a collapse . Look at literally every great civilization. The ones that just dissapeared and we confused as to why. Well no one was left to spread the story of the collapse. The fact that humans have pushed the general life expectancy up to about 90 instead of 40-60 shows our arrogance that we should call this virus a plague because it has the highest death rate among elderly. Really no one should be crying over their 70+ year old relatives are dying. They lived full lives. If anything this virus is a blessing because we are headded to a loop of more and more jobs being elderly care takers and the majoriy of the econemy is just health care for the baby boomer generation becoming unselfrelyant.
 

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I feel the same way he did about humans. We are to self centered to understand we are not destined to outlive the planet earth and its apart of the cycles of life that we hit a peak
Google: How old is earth: "4.543 billion years"
Google: For how long have there been humans: "about 200,000 years"
Google: How long until the sun dies? "about 7 billion to 8 billion years"

Google: How old was George Carlin: "71 years"

Hm that guy wanting to tell you that the issue with humanity is selfcenteredness, and that we all are going to die before the planet dies, seems PRETTY self centered to me.

I mean with climate change we now have a reason to tell Gen Z if they mess up, they influence the trajectory of humans on earth. Carlin had nothing. Just his own feelings.

What a prophet! *sarc*
 
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Google: How old is earth: "4.543 billion years"
Google: For how long have there been humans: "about 200,000 years"
Google: How long until the sun dies? "about 7 billion to 8 billion years"

Google: How old was George Carlin: "71 years"

Hm that guy wanting to tell you that the issue with humanity is selfcenteredness, and that we all are going to die before the planet dies, seems PRETTY self centered to me.

I mean with climate change we now have a reason to tell Gen Z if they mess up, they influence the trajectory of humans on earth. Carlin had nothing. Just his own feelings.

What a prophet! *sarc*
You must live a sad boring and verry annoyed life to feel the need to post whore about politics on a forum that is about stealing video games and how to do it. God i shure hope your not on facebook. You a karen baskins. The worst. But feel free to carry on. Your self form of entertainment is amusing.
 

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