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[POLL] 2020 U.S. Presidential Election

For whom will/would you vote?


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Lacius

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Like what? Pedophilia?

Wait, no, that was Biden.
There is no evidence that Biden is a pedophile, and if your standards of evidence are so low that you accept the claim that he is a pedophile, then are obligated to accept the claim that Trump is a rapist and a pedophile, if you're going to be consistent.

When I refer to Trump as a criminal, I'm talking about the Trump Foundation crimes, Trump University crimes, criminal obstruction of justice, campaign finance violations, etc.

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Just want to say DNC really screwed up discounting Sanders so early (for the second time!). Dems would have voted Dem either way, but Sanders supporters might not vote for Biden.

The whole situation is sad. The 2 party system can get fucked.
I voted for Sanders in the primary. That being said, some moderates and undecideds are turned off by democratic socialism. Biden probably has the best chance at beating Trump.
 

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There is no evidence that Biden is a pedophile, and if your standards of evidence are so low that you accept the claim that he is a pedophile, then are obligated to accept the claim that Trump is a rapist and a pedophile, if you're going to be consistent.
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When I refer to Trump as a criminal, I'm talking about the Trump Foundation crimes, Trump University crimes, criminal obstruction of justice, campaign finance violations, etc.
Oh?
 

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Vaguely pointing to other people peddling conspiracy theories isn't an excuse for peddling conspiracy theories. That's like committing a murder and then vaguely pointing to the existence of other murders as an excuse.

When I see you calling out liberals equally for unsubstantiated bullshit, I'll care what you have to say on the subject. Would be hard for you though, since you're actually a contributor yourself.

"Given the criminal bafoon who is currently in office ... " and other such statements of opinion without fact from you render your protests rather flaccid.

And it's "buffoon" ... at least spell your insults correctly.
 

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We're not just voting for Joe Biden. We're voting for Ruth Bader Ginsburg's replacement.
Given her record as a prosecutor/SA, assuming she actually gets any power and is not even more of a puppet than the last however many, do you really think her pick is going to be any better?

Edit also re: conspiracies. If the phrase had been Epsteined instead would you have had nearly as much objection?
Mind you I don't see the objection to some silliness in general.
 
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Lacius

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When I see you calling out liberals equally for unsubstantiated bullshit, I'll care what you have to say on the subject.
  1. I haven't read every post on this website.
  2. I haven't read every post in this thread.
  3. I'm not responsible for anything anyone else has said.
  4. What anyone else has said or done is irrelevant to whether or not you're espousing unsubstantiated conspiracy nonsense.
  5. I'm opposed to unsubstantiated conspiracy theories, not just unsubstantiated conspiracy theories from people I disagree with politically.
  6. I can't even address your response in any meaningful way, since it's both vague and unsubstantiated. Give me an example of a conspiracy theory I didn't see or ignored, and I might agree with you that it's nonsense.

Would be hard for you though, since you're actually a contributor yourself.
If you're going to argue that I've promoted conspiracy theories, I'd like you to be specific so I can address them. If you cannot find any examples, I would appreciate it if you wouldn't make up things about me. We were having what I thought was a pleasant conversation up until this point.

And it's "buffoon" ... at least spell your insults correctly.
There are well known issues with using Gboard/Chrome on Android with the rich text editor turned on, and they actually cause me to make a lot of typos when I'm using my phone instead of my computer, particularly when I make edits to text I've already typed but haven't posted. It apparently bothers you more than it bothers me.

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Given her record as a prosecutor/SA, assuming she actually gets any power and is not even more of a puppet than the last however many, do you really think her pick is going to be any better?

Edit also re: conspiracies. If the phrase had been Epsteined instead would you have had nearly as much objection?
Mind you I don't see the objection to some silliness in general.
I'd love to respond, but I would have to make a lot of assumptions about whom and what you're talking about. Could you be more clear?
 

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Biden, just because it seems like he has a soul, and he is the only one besides Trump that has any chance of winning. Shame that my vote has to be based on such a basic thing that I hope that every person has, but I suppose that's politics.
 
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I'd love to respond, but I would have to make a lot of assumptions about whom and what you're talking about. Could you be more clear?

Most seem to be operating under the assumption that if Biden wins then he will probably pop his clogs or otherwise be rendered inoperative in fairly short order (age, dementia, legal issues... it really does not matter) and that his VP will then take over, even if not then as she is the law and order legal candidate it is presumed her hand will be guiding the pick of who replaces the various supreme court justices (again operating under the assumption that president does not have puppet somewhere in the title).

If her pick is reflective of her track record as various types of lawyer for the state (of the pool you pick those you admire and think can do it, and one does tend to look into the mirror for these sorts of things) then for all the talk of "lose the supreme court for a generation" this last go around I doubt she would do any better there
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/17/opinion/kamala-harris-criminal-justice.html
https://www.montereyherald.com/2015...s-back-asset-seizure-before-criminal-charges/
This could go on for a while, neither of those exactly being Fox-News/Breitbart type sources either.

Not really the stereotypical 1950s deep south judge archetype (nor for that matter what most would think when you said California state lawyer) but far from someone I would look to so as to guard my rights.

Unless you mean the Epstein thing. In which case a seemingly bad dude with fairly strong ties to the US Democratic party and big supporters thereof was pinched and put in jail, however he then seemed to commit suicide in one of the most convenient suicides in recent history and among a mountain of questionable circumstances. See then the popular meme of Epstein didn't kill himself, a phrase that apparently irked some too. It did however then make it to being a verb for taken out and made to look like a suicide (sometimes also with a sloppily but nobody cares".
My question was then if young Hanafuda had opted for that phrase instead would you have had as strong an objection as you seemingly did. Mind you I would not have said it mattered either way -- silly phrases are fun and not everything need be set in stone history verified phrases.
 

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Most seem to be operating under the assumption that if Biden wins then he will probably pop his clogs or otherwise be rendered inoperative in fairly short order (age, dementia, legal issues... it really does not matter) and that his VP will then take over, even if not then as she is the law and order legal candidate it is presumed her hand will be guiding the pick of who replaces the various supreme court justices (again operating under the assumption that president does not have puppet somewhere in the title).

If her pick is reflective of her track record as various types of lawyer for the state (of the pool you pick those you admire and think can do it, and one does tend to look into the mirror for these sorts of things) then for all the talk of "lose the supreme court for a generation" this last go around I doubt she would do any better there
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/17/opinion/kamala-harris-criminal-justice.html
https://www.montereyherald.com/2015...s-back-asset-seizure-before-criminal-charges/
This could go on for a while, neither of those exactly being Fox-News/Breitbart type sources either.

Not really the stereotypical 1950s deep south judge archetype (nor for that matter what most would think when you said California state lawyer) but far from someone I would look to so as to guard my rights.

Unless you mean the Epstein thing. In which case a seemingly bad dude with fairly strong ties to the US Democratic party and big supporters thereof was pinched and put in jail, however he then seemed to commit suicide in one of the most convenient suicides in recent history and among a mountain of questionable circumstances. See then the popular meme of Epstein didn't kill himself, a phrase that apparently irked some too. It did however then make it to being a verb for taken out and made to look like a suicide (sometimes also with a sloppily but nobody cares".
My question was then if young Hanafuda had opted for that phrase instead would you have had as strong an objection as you seemingly did. Mind you I would not have said it mattered either way -- silly phrases are fun and not everything need be set in stone history verified phrases.
I have no concerns with regard to the pool of potential Supreme Court picks Biden or Harris are likely to choose from.

I read your post several times, and I don't know what you're getting at with regard to Epstein, and I don't know how to respond.
 

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I vote for the entire disassemblance of inactual "authority" these forces claim to have. Everyone has their Natural Authority, as sovereign man/woman of flesh and blood here on earth.

Why people feel the need to externalize their power and give it away I don't know.

It's just a form of maffia. That either can be somewhat more benevolent or malevolent.

No matter the case, this is not the way to go about life. This is not the natural order.
 
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I am aware that Biden is better than Trump, there's no denying that. It's more a matter of not wanting to vote for someone who is Biden. Biden is a creep who openly creeps on young girls and women, Biden is a rapist who when asked about the accusations crumbled instantly, Biden has a history of openly supporting extremely racist laws and even choosing a literal cop as a vice president is so concerning. I want to support the ideas around Biden but supporting Biden goes against my own principles. I don't want to continue supporting the "lesser of two evils," that mentality is literally why we are picking between a Blue Racist Rapist and a Red Racist Rapist. It's always worth stressing that I am not a Democrat, I am an actual Leftist, the Dems don't have my support by default.
Sadly Bernie wasn't as popular as people originally thought. He got completely destroyed by Biden.
 

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I'm pretty curious how people can feel OK voting for a man who is trying to destroy and privatize the Postal Service. Hell, the guy he put in charge of USPS has a huge amount of stock in Fedex and UPS.. It's disgusting.

Do people think this is a good thing somehow?

@Viri, the media and the Dem Party threw Sanders away before it was even over. Using the word "socialism" probably didn't help at all either. For some reason most americans are entirely opposed to universal healthcare like most civilized countries have. It makes no sense to me.
 

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, the media and the Dem Party threw Sanders away before it was even over. Using the word "socialism" probably didn't help at all either. For some reason most americans are entirely opposed to universal healthcare like most civilized countries have. It makes no sense to me.[

The media and the GOP went on a Crusade against Trump in 2016, even claimed he hired hookers to piss on a bed, yet he overcame it. Why couldn't Bernie?
 

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