Yeah shame on everyone that isnt doing something! Wait, what are we supposed to do again?
For people that still havent realized whats happening. In places where stores are closed, this isnt voluntary. It usually starts with restaurants and bars (many people hanging around in tight spaces) by design. If you then extend it to a real 'curfew' style action (people are encouraged to only leave homes for work, and to buy essential items (food, ...) ) and go straight home afterwards, thats another phase escalation, done by a state.
Some companies had their FREAKING marketing department intervene trying to spin this into a VOLUNTARY NATIONWIDE ACTION they are willing to provide. All of that is bullshit. The companies that are 'voluntary' closing down, are those that mostly reside in cities where moste of their stores would be shut down anyhow. They look at spreadsheet, see that it isnt that costly to close down the rest of their stores alongside those that will be closed by government anyhow, TURN AROUND, AND SELL YOU THAT AS WE SO CARING - we so socially responsible.
Now freaking 50 people scream their heads out in here, that they want more MARKETING BULLSHIT - from gamestop as well.
There is no need in vast regions in the US to close stores now. (Because case numbers arent at that level yet where this is a measure you would think about.)
Cities that are closing stores currently are expected to have to do it again in a while, depending on the impact on the progression rate reached (at least in my country).
For the economy not to collaps, you can only do it for a very limited period, then you pronounce 'everything normal' again, then you do it again. Always while looking at spreadsheets.
Non of that is volunatarily, once its implemented.
And while it might make sense for some companies to do it nationwide, for most it doesnt.
Stop asking companies to do stuff, so you can feel good, if your logic so broken.
If you want them to "do something" - as them to I dont know, paint nice banners, or hold their breath, or something that impresses you dearly, but dont ask them to 'voluntarily shut down', if you have no idea about their business structure, and where their stores are located.
At the same time, management would have to be lobotomized, to send out communication to store managers, that they should resist against statewide curfews, and try to haggle with police to keep their stores open.
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No philosophy in the world can guilt people into acting a certain way, so they'll prevent future dead people, if that relies on so many layers of abstraction, that suddenly opening or closing a videogames store VOLUNTARILY in your mind is equivalent to saving lives.
If you are that person, you are working at a pet shelter.
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Impact.
When a state or city askes you to close stores in the current situation you do so. Because its coordinated action that has the highest impact on reaching "curbing the curve" goals.
Voluntary this or that is useless. (Washing hands isnt. Wash your hands..
) Mostly because not many people, ore companies will do things voluntarily if it really hurts them economically - while their business rivals flurish.
At the same time, if your state asks you to close down (and it doesnt instantly bankrupt you), you do so, and not start haggling with the police in the streets, at a time where foottraffic will be close to none existent. (Because people are told that all stores (except food, gas, banks, ..) are closed anyhow.)
And this will be different depending on if you live in high population dense areas (big cities) or not. So dont say this is bull, or the entire country has to pitch in tomorrow to save lifes. No. Coordinated action is what has an impact.
Apple playing "samaritan" (while not getting any of the new stuff in sufficient quantities from china) has not.
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Also YES, there is a difference between how we act when deathrate is 0.6% and when it is in danger to becoming 5%. (In a region/state.)
Because?
0.6% is close to the deathrate with a working health system (hospitals), and
5+% is the deathrate with your hospitals starting to reject cases, because they become to many.
If you are at close to 0.6% in the forseeable future (and rate might be exponential, so you cant do it by feel, you must do it by models), you do nothing - because, there isnt any cure, or treatment at the moment.
If you are at 1% you ask yourself - is this really worth ruining the economy further...
And if you are at "hospitals turning away people" state your inner monologue becomes *shit* we should have acted earlier, because the cases still get more - daily - for a while if you've reached that now.
But if spread in a region is not at 'problematic levels' (projected) yet. You also dont praise Apple for closing Applestores there.
'None problematic levels' are levels where it would take 1+ years for 70% of the population in your state to become infected. (Without banking on a vaccine being available in december, it would be closer to 2 years.) If you can hold it at that state - you are incentiviced to do absolutely nothing. And deathrate still will be at around 0.6-0.8%.
(Why? Because the epidemic only stops as 60-70% of people in your country either are vaccinated or went through COVID-19 one and survived. No other way available. Why is it more problematic than a normal flu now? Because against flu, there is resistance in the public (slower progression), against this, there isnt yet. If this corony virus just would spread less fast, it would be close to a non issue. But sadly, it spreads fast. So the difference between 2.000.000 people in your country dying or not - is coordinated action, to slow down the progression rate, in a coordinated fashion, as to avoid your economy collapsing at the same time.)
Its not as simple as shaming everyone that doest voluntarily shut down their business for 10 days (close to a month makes more sense and is done on other regions in the world currently - how many of you businesses would survive that?) for "killing the people". So I suggest, people in here stop doing that.
You are not saving most lives by socially isolating 'directly'. (Lower correlation, because death rate, if hospital capacity is available) isnt that outrageously higher than a bad flu season. (3x))
You are saving most lives (higher correlation), by slowing the spread (through coordinated social isolation measures where needed), keeping hospitals operational.
Issue - if you would favor the direct approach, you'd have to stay at home for another 9 to 21 months to do that especially well. As you obviously cant do that (businesses would collaps), you do in in coordinated stints, listening to state directives, for when you do it, in a coordinated fashion. ("Riding the tide." So harsh measures when growthrates seem to spike again, followed by periods of 'normalcy' until at least december (?) (vaccine, or treatment becomes available)).
This is not a one shot happening, where you try to hype up everyone in the country to do something. Just listen to your state government - that leads to a better outcome.
