Emulation, game quality, and the value of "intended play"

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Lately I’ve found myself in the likely common position of emulating The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild via Cemu. In truth, I’d thought to revisit the game by playing it on Switch as I had when it released, but despite having put over 300 hours into the game in total around the time of its launch, I just couldn’t get back into it. Having been playing so many PC games in the meanwhile, most with unlocked framerates, the controls of BotW felt less responsive and the framerate more painful than back once upon a starry-eyed launch. I was disappointed when, for 3 days, every time I found myself bored and I sat down to play, I felt the need to turn the game off before I’d even spent half an hour. It was a let-down, sure, but I thought that maybe some games need the novelty of a brand new world and undiscovered mechanics to carry you through the less pleasant aspects of the game, and I was prepared to accept that. On a lark, hoping to find at least some modest engagement in the act of emulation, I tried booting the game up on Cemu in one last gambit for entertainment. Over the course of three days, I was startled to find that I’d somehow put 20 hours into a new file.

Zelda games have always been some of the highest-profile titles on each Nintendo system onto which they’re released. Breath of the Wild was both the Wii U’s swansong as well as one of the most highly praised Zeldas to come out in… good lord, it’s been almost a decade since Skyward Sword. Does that game count as “highly praised”? Well, with Zelda being the uber franchise that it is, it’s no surprise that a Wii U emulator would focus so much on compatibility with BotW, and focus it certainly has. Through the use of community graphics packs, Cemu gives BotW; an extremely comprehensive list of all kinds of odd internal rendering resolutions, the ability to adjust level of detail bias, a toggle for depth of field, enhanced reflections, settings for shadow resolutions (up to 400% base resolutions), and many more aesthetic tweaks. For myself, though, the big cake underneath the delicious icing is the ability to blast that framerate beyond 30fps, beyond 60, even beyond 120, and up to 165fps. I’d have loved a 240fps option, but I have to be frank with myself, my PC would never hit those numbers.

I’m entirely CPU bottlenecked with my RTX 2070 and an i7-4790k, but even on my rig I can maintain 60+ fps @1920x1080 in the open world, and by the sweet sweat of Satan, it both feels and looks like a dream. This is to say nothing of the framerate inside shrines, which is consistently above 120fps, where much less needs to be rendered. At 60fps, actions like sweeping the camera to admire the sprawling landscape, or keeping track of enemy movements to time a parry no longer give me the eye strain it used to on the Switch, and the reduced input latency means that I’m taking less damage as a result of my directions not registering quickly enough. It really is indescribable how it feels to play the game on PC at 120fps as compared to 30, to watch things glide across the screen, and I imagine it’s only something I can show rather than tell. More impressive is how this is all accomplished while also enhancing the quality of the visual assets, as high quality textures can be loaded at extreme distances, the boosted resolution gives everything new clarity, and reflection tweaks give wet or metallic objects a gorgeous, realistic sheen in a sunrise. Combined with the higher resolution, these make the rolling hills of Hyrule look so much more alive, and the act of standing atop a tower becomes more of a marvel than it was on console.

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Even if your PC can't hit framerates of 60fps and a high resolution, so long as your GPU has the VRAM, you can produce a significantly cleaner look via Cemu's ability to force high quality textures to load at a much higher draw distance. For just a single option, I'm surprised it could go on to affect the landscape so drastically. The difference between the Switch and Wii U is certainly visible, but that boost is dwarfed when going to PC.
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Comparison pic provided by user "Abdulrahman" on Resetera.

Interestingly, there are a few unintentional side-effects of the framerate which also end up enhancing the experience in subtle ways, one of which being that the game’s menus don’t exactly know how to deal with the sped up framerate, and as a result they themselves begin running more quickly. This “glitch” actually makes menu management so much less painful by speeding up the act of sorting through items, putting them in your hands for cooking, eating multiples of the same item, and swapping weapons via the d-pad. So many management actions are made less intrusive, and I’m no longer so reticent to swap weapons mid-combat, making what once broke the flow of gameplay now more integrated into it. As a result, I was finding myself less exasperated on average during casual play. It hadn't really occurred to me just how clunky the original game’s menu system was until the problem was accidentally rectified. The game’s input latency is also reduced significantly by the higher framerate and ability to disable v-sync, making techs like bomb impact launches (or “boomy zoomies”, if you prefer the scientific term) much more consistent to perform, though even the most uncomplicated actions like running and jumping are improved by the lowered latency. Granted, not all glitches introduced by the higher framerate are positive, as the physics of some objects tend to break, especially in regards to gravity/buoyancy. Hanging ropes holding lanterns or platforms jiggle continually, items in water behave strangely if thrown from high up by continually bobbing deep into and high out of water, and loosing a chest from dirt using magnesis causes it to rocket much too high into the sky, only falling many seconds later. They don’t impede puzzle-solving, at least as much as I’ve experienced, so I find them more amusing than anything, but it’s still clearly not how objects were intended to interact. It’s a mixed bag, but for me, the benefits outweigh the negatives by many times.

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Now, it’s no secret that companies like Nintendo aren’t exactly fond of the option of emulation being available to the consumer, and understandably so. Competent, accessible console emulation does inherently more easily facilitate software piracy as an alternative to buying games/consoles, even though that very much isn’t the intended effect. Indeed, most high-profile emulators like Cemu specifically and emphatically do not condone the act of piracy, and are more concerned with the act of games preservation. Even still, emulation sits in somewhat of a gray area when it comes to the games industry, not at all illegal (given no copyright is being infringed, code stolen, etc.) but still on the moral/legal fringe. In many circles, emulation is seen as a de-facto less legitimate method of play than official hardware, with some more extreme groups decrying it as nothing but a piracy enabler. That being said, I just can’t deny that what emulation does in service of preservation and accessibility long-term is necessary for games as an artform, despite, though not to minimize, whatever hypothetical damage it might or might not enable to the immediate industry.

What I’ve come to understand more clearly in my time using Cemu, however, is how the act of emulation can actually provide what I consider to be a more “pure” experience for games than even the hardware they were on which they were originally published can provide. In my own case, because of emulation, I was able to engage with a form of Breath of the Wild which I found much more entertaining than it was at launch, and that was solely due to the enhancements provided by said emulation. I’ve seen it repeated often that emulators should do nothing more than provide an experience which endeavors to exactly mimic that of the original hardware, with no exceptions, with anything enabling otherwise being called a detriment to gaming as a whole. There’s a question someone posted in 2013 regarding a mod to potentially increase the framerate of Ocarina of Time from 20fps (NTSC) to 30, or even 60, to which one user replied saying that people who request and utilize emulation-based enhancements are a detriment to "proper" emulation.
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Similarly, in 2019, a small debate regarding how much responsibility an emulator should have with representing the exact state in which a game originally played spawning as a result of the popular SNES emulator, bsnes, allowing for the removal of console slowdown in some games, with many similar arguments made against the feature. From the perspective purely of preservation, I can immediately see why retaining artifacts of the limitations of a console during emulation is extremely important. For example, there currently exists a 60fps mod for Super Mario 64, which is a game I certainly wouldn’t bring myself to play at any other framerate, but while it’s the only viable way for me to personally enjoy the game, I recognize that it’s important that this doesn’t somehow become the only way for people to play it, despite the fact that I regard it as an objective upgrade. Reviews of the game from back in 1996 can be readily dug up online detailing the thoughts people had on the game at the time they were thinking them, but while these contain mostly subjective assessments and takes on the game reflective of the ideals of the gaming community at the time, emulation gives us a unique method of experiencing the game as it existed in the past; a past which could easily be skewed with misinformation.

What if, hypothetically, the 60fps version of SM64 were the only version in circulation? How many decades would it be until the information regarding how the game originally played was lost? Can’t you just picture some edgy 10-year-olds, 50 years from now, saying things like “gosh, games were so much better back in the old days” based off a flawed understanding of the originals due to enhancements in emulation? I mean, if microtransactions become the future then they’d still be right, but I digress. This is something we’ve empirically seen in regards to many things in history, where the negative gets forgotten and the positive gets idealized. For something as quantifiable as the framerate, it’s easy to imagine that that information could be preserved via text alone, but it’s one thing to imagine the game playing at 30fps, and another to understand how it felt. Moreover, what about those aspects less quantifiable? Nobody has, or will ever, document every single position Mario can stand in, or every direction the camera can look in which causes framedrops, or the exact severity of the drops. If emulation doesn’t allow you to preserve those dips in framerate accurately, then in an eventuality where emulation is the only means by which one can access these games (already a truth for a great many games presently), the zeitgeist’s idea of the original experience will have already, if subtly, differed from the reality. These perceptions are important, as they’re frequently drawn upon for contemporary comparisons and discussions, and it affects what we think we understand of the past.

I understand how fragile this situation can be, as I’ve already experienced the phenomenon personally. Having never owned a Super Nintendo as a child, my introduction to the gems of the SNES was via emulation, somewhere around the mid-late 2000s. As I played the seminal classics via the emulators of the time, I found myself not having very much fun at all, and stopped before I even got halfway through any game. I kinda hated the experience, thinking that the games felt extremely clunky and hard to control, which I assumed was because of their age. After all, these games had come out so many years before, and it seemed reasonable to expect some rough patches and growing pains before game developers mastered the minutiae of how games should control. My experience playing an NES emulator made for similar results, and it only solidified this idea for me. What I had yet to understand until much later, as I played a real SNES on a CRT, was that the clunkiness I had just assumed was a product of the games’ ages was actually the input latency brought on by emulation, and had nothing to do with the games at all. In this way, in a microcosm, I had been unintentionally mislead as to the nature of those old games just because of mildly inaccurate emulation. It left an impression of just how easily anyone's perception of the past can be skewed, with no notice or warning. In the near future, there’ll be a generation who will have never played a real N64. Heck, I’m sure there’s already a generation that has no access to a SNES or NES, and whose only experiences of those games have come from emulation, whether official or otherwise. Were it not for Retroarch’s “runahead” feature bringing input latency in line with console hardware (amusingly something which could be called an “enhancement” depending on who you ask), many others would likely have come to the same erroneous conclusions as I did. For those who have only played these retro games via Nintendo’s own, more laggy emulation, their perspectives on these old titles are almost certainly at least somewhat perverted as well, and I imagine they’re likely more disposed to be critical of these older games in discussions than they would be otherwise, just as I was.

It’s definitely important for historical accuracy, then, that once most consumer N64s have ceased to work, we don’t look back upon landmark titles like Super Mario 64 through a 1080p 60fps lens. The critical acclaim that game received upon launch takes on a very different context when you can play the game at its native resolution of 320x240, with a framerate cap of 30fps which frequently dipped into 20fps. I’m not trying to slag the original release of Super Mario 64, mind you, only to point out that just how beloved this game was in its time gives insight into the standards, expectations, and desires of the gaming community as a whole during the late 90s. Without a way to preserve all its jaggies, all its slowdowns, all its original input lag, we lose key information necessary to understand the industry and the consumers at the time. With 1:1 console emulation, or at least as accurate as we can get, we attempt to achieve a unique tool by which we can essentially go back in time to see and feel exactly what caused such a sensation to the best of our abilities, instead of being limited to inference via text descriptions. For perspective, cultural and art historians would kill to have access to a machine which could accurately reproduce the works of Michelangelo, or the plays of Shakespeare, exactly as they were seen in their time, and for good reason. Emulation is that tool for gaming.

That being said, the mere existence of this 60fps SM64 mod alone is not capable of compromising historical preservation, as some would imply, in the same way that a digital edit of Van Gogh’s Starry Night doesn’t change the original. So long as the original experience is maintained/labeled as the original and made readily accessible, then we’ll keep our metaphorical time-machine to see things through the eyes of the consumers of the past. In fact, by completely denying the enhancements that emulators provide, we would strip them of, what is in my strong opinion, one of their most powerful abilities: the means to give us better, more accessible versions of games which we wouldn’t get otherwise.

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Though “improved” is not how many would describe the emulation of these games. A common argument I’ve repeatedly seen against not only the personal implementation of these enhancements, but their existence in general, is that “the games were not intended to be played at higher than 30fps” or “this game was designed around the input lag”. Among others, my biggest issue with these arguments is that they show a critical misunderstanding of the concept of developer intentions. Breath of the Wild was “intended” to be played at 30fps, only insofar as the team made the decision to release it knowing the framerate at which it ran. Yes, the designers deliberately published the game with the understanding that consumers will be playing it at 30fps, but what the argument fails to understand is that this does not mean they would have preferred it to be 30fps, only that it ended up this way. BotW’s designers didn’t implement a 30fps cap because it made the game feel/look the best it could; it was a compromise of hardware with respect to the kind of game they wanted to make. An open world with wide areas full of weather effects, enemies, and many distant objects takes quite a bit of processing, after all, and if the choice was between their entire artistic vision for the gameplay and maintaining 60fps, they naturally prioritized the former. The game has certainly not been made more enjoyable by way of having higher input latency, or by making it more difficult to interpolate and react to objects in motion, or (if you’re like me) giving the player a headache as they try to focus their eyes on 30fps; these were necessities to make it run on the Switch in the form that they wanted. Similarly, the development staff making Ocarina of Time didn’t make the gameplay 20fps purely as a means to facilitate their artistic vision or enhance the player’s experience, it was in order to maintain a relatively high polygon count on screen without the N64 catching fire. Super Mario 64 doesn’t swap out Mario’s default model for a low-poly one when the screen zooms out because the developers thought it looked cool, it was so that they could try their best to maintain the framerate while more and more objects come on screen. These are not elements that serve the game’s or the developers’ intentions, they’re strategic compromises in order to make the best game they can.

This is actually why I see these enhancements, like those I’m using in Breath of the Wild, as a more accurate representation of the experience that the developers would have wanted to provide by circumventing the technical limitations of the hardware. For Breath of the Wild, lowering input latency, making the game run at as high a framerate as your machine can handle, and loading high-quality textures at longer distances serve to remove some of the barriers to immersion that the hardware brought on, making for a game which better achieves the core feelings the developers wanted to evoke. Of course, it’s always important that these enhancements are opt-in, so as not to breed the misunderstanding that the game always ran this way.

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In this way, emulators have become not just a powerful tool for artistic conservation, but also a means to give us better, more accessible versions of the games we currently play. Many games have had elements compromised by the hardware to which they’re beholden, and emulation has evolved with the ability to remove those barriers. Due to console exclusivity, we will almost certainly never get a PC version of Breath of the Wild, but this also means that the game will never be as fun as it could be, or feel as good as it could feel, or look as gorgeous as it might on PC. Experiencing the impact of Cemu’s enhancements has already proven that much to me. I mean, if just a few user enhancements could change the game so much, imagine what an official port with a budget would look like. Emulation can serve as a means to not only show us just how much games can be held back by the concept of artificial exclusivity, but also just how the final quality would have been affected had certain design elements been changed. After all, it’s one thing to guess that a game would have been better if it had less input lag, a higher framerate, a higher resolution, less motion blur, etc., but it’s entirely more useful to see as much empirically, and be able to draw conclusions via observation rather than supposition. Emulation’s enhancements serve to clear up the ambiguity in these kinds of arguments, which are important as a means to give critical feedback and influence how games evolve.

So it's by emulating Zelda on Cemu that I've come to realize how much of a difference emulation can make in gaming. It’s become evident to me, at least, that the conversation should focus less on whether or not emulators should provide enhancements to the games they emulate, and instead on methods by which we can maintain both hardware-accurate emulation and playability enhancements in tandem. Emulation is both the gateway to experiencing the enhanced PC ports of games that we would have never been able to play otherwise, while also a way to preserve the history of gaming in a form which is readily accessible to anyone willing to spend a few minutes. This accessibility is a critical point, mind, as just having original games preserved in a museum somewhere drastically limits the amount of people who will be able to personally educate themselves with it. These two functions are not mutually exclusive, both serve critical roles in today's and the future's gaming cultures, and should both be actively pursued if we want to make the most out of our tools.
 
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A good article, and an issue that I'm torn on. Emulation certainly allows us to get rid of various artifacts that we had to deal with in the past, but on the flip side, those artifacts also give flavour to the experience that I can't completely dismiss. I like both, but for different reasons. As a collector I will always prefer to run games on original hardware - it has magic and soul in it that cannot be replicated. With that said, I can't deny the convenience and the bells and whistles emulation offers, particularly the increased internal resolution and framerate which enables users to play the same game, just "better". I sit comfortably in the middle, playing my favourite games on whatever means are available at any given time. :P

Expresses how I feel, perfectly.

And, with the ability of Retrode, Flashcart and emulators, I can actually play a game on all alternatives at the same time by switching seamlessly. Best of all worlds.
 

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I too am an "accuracy first" person (especially when original hardware, which usually is intrinsecally 100% accurate, is readily available - as it seems to be in the case of way too many lamers wanting Fr33 G4m3z),
so while "known bad" emulators (original 2004 VBA, Nesticle, ...) are still respectable for having lower requirements or useful features, I still don't agree they should be promoted; similarly, upscaling features and the like have absolutely no business in something that strives for emulating a system*

* a LLE ("true emulator") emulates a system; an HLE runs software for a system, so I don't consider them proper emulators even though certainly using some degree of emulation (despite what WINE's full name means)
I do wonder what your plan to enter the era of emulating "modern" systems is though. LLE emulation kinda stops being viable at around the N64 mark, since at that point consoles became more "computers with specific hardware" than "devices dedicated to gaming and having instructions sets to match those".

Ultimately, to me the question really comes to "do you want to preserve the chipset" or "do you want to preserve the experience that games on this device brought you". The former is mostly interesting for people who are trying to do things like glitches or speedruns, but are generally not very interesting to the average person who has cool memories of game X and would like to relive those. The latter is more interesting for people who want to play games that are regarded as masterpieces but due to reasons are on consoles that can't easily be obtained anymore these days.

My personal opinion is that complaining about HLE vs LLE is mainly just elitism. If a game works well, it works well. Speedrunners are generally a bit of a niche category to begin with, and most players don't care if there's a small rounding error that causes the game to make a tiny adjustment to it's RNG damage calculation or whatever that isn't on the original hardware.

A good example of this is Paper Mario 64's Monstar, which in pretty much all rereleases of the game and emulators has it's graphics bugged (the original N64 had the ability to render Monstars star graphic in a way that made it seem like it was moving). Emulators and rereleases were incapable of properly emulating it, so Monstar's star graphic is simply placed in front of it, which results in it looking rather awkward.

The result? Nobody fucking cared. People still liked Paper Mario 64, even in it's rereleases. They enjoyed the game, and many people got the ability to explore a timeless classic to this day.

Accuracy is a pretty stupid altar to sacrifice preservation as far as I'm concerned. It's generally not feasible for modern consoles and even then, the slight differences often don't matter to the average person, even if they are more obvious differences (such as PM64s Monstar).

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Then you're playing it wrong. It's amazingly fun.
The problem with BOTW is that the game does a really bad job at conveying the way you're meant to play it. It has a lot of mechanics that while intended to make gameplay fun and interesting can very easily turn the game into a boring slogfest that requires grinding to get through.

I am currently replaying the game, and I'm already having a lot more fun with the game. Things like weapon durability and enemy scaling, which were massive issues in my first playthrough just were... not nearly as much of an issue once I got down to it. A lot of that can be attributed due to me having looked up how these systems scaled beforehand. The only outright bad mechanics still in the game that has no excuse is rain, cooking and reaching Goron City, and I'm not outruling that I might be wrong on rain as well.

The thing is, the game doesn't tell you that your weapons are meant to scale with the rest of the game. It instead teaches you that since weapons can be broken, that one rusty sword with 16 attack power should be saved for stronger enemies and you should instead whack enemies with stal-arms, use bombs to avoid damaging durability or avoid combat altogether. Only after I realized that as I beat more enemies, the game would start spawning stronger weapons and enemies as well, that I felt there was a point to actually engaging in combat.

BOTW is a great game with that taken into account. Not the best Zelda (no Zelda game ever managed to outexceed the living world that Majora's Mask made), but certainly deserving of a good score.

A 7/10.
 
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Then you're playing it wrong. It's amazingly fun.
They aren't the only ones. I didn't find BoTW to be that much fun. However I don't think people should compare it to other games in the Zelda franchise since it's taking a new approach. I can understand why some do find it fun but it just wasn't for me.

EDIT: On the topic of emulation I love my games to be flawless and as beautiful as possible so I much prefer the enhanced emulation approach vs the completely accurate approach.
 

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It seems like you want to preserve the experience and not the console. The only issue is that this makes emulators with this philosophy useless for homebrew.
Depends. Most homebrew often serves to extend specific capabilities of the system and have little value outside of that system. Homebrew games often are considered by developers of these sorts of emulators as games under their own right and are as a result similarly prioritized to being playable.

But I don't realy see a point to a DS emulator, if you could fully emulate a 3DS which by deafult plays DS and DSi games.
The 3DS doesn't actually emulate DS/DSi games to my knowledge. It literally has parts of the DS's hardware in it if I'm not mistaken. Playing DS (but GBA as well) games means that the system quite literally reboots into behaving like a Nintendo DS.
 

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Intended play trumps all

Video games are art and should be treated as such

Emulation is cool and awesome but its just not the way the game should be played
 

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Then you're playing it wrong. It's amazingly fun.

Just. No. Why does there always have to be one person with a comment like this? Like when I say I found the last Doom game to be boring. It was "Must be playing it on easy mode!".

I'm not playing anything wrong, you just assumed I'm a complete idiot. I'm 48. I know how to play an effing video game. I do not like the game. It's amazingly fun for you... amazingly boring for me. My opinion of it doesn't mean I'm playing it wrong. C"mon.
 
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Just. No. Why does there always have to be one person with a comment like this? Like when I say I found the last Doom game to be boring. It was "Must be playing it on easy mode!".

I'm not playing anything wrong, you just assumed I'm a complete idiot. I'm 48. I know how to play an effing video game. I do not like the game. It's amazingly fun for you... amazingly boring for me. My opinion of it doesn't mean I'm playing it wrong. C"mon.

No it means you are 48 arguing with a kid over a video game
 

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Very good article, Adrian.
My personal opinion: While I do think emulation is very important for video game preservation, I still prefer to play on real hardware whenever possible. If I can't get it on the original hardware, I'll definitely opt for Virtual Console or RetroArch, but I play on hardware whenever possible. (Bonus points if it's possible to use a backup loader!) I wouldn't emulate a modern console like the Nintendo Switch until it reaches EoL.
I generally don't care if people make HD texture packs for emulated games or if emulating results in higher framerates. If it enhances their experience and doesn't affect mine, cool. Let everyone have their cake and eat it too. At the end of the day, I just wanna play some fucking video games.
 
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I do wonder what your plan to enter the era of emulating "modern" systems is though. LLE emulation kinda stops being viable at around the N64 mark, since at that point consoles became more "computers with specific hardware" than "devices dedicated to gaming and having instructions sets to match those".
It depends, indeed, on what we want from emulation: from the MAME point of view, which happens to be the one of my primary concern ("proper implementation is the best proof of correct documentation, playability is just a Nice Side Effect™"), lack of realtime performance is unfortunate but a tangential issue;

for the common Fr33 G4m3z "user", this obviously isn't what they would like, however chances are "the game they played years ago and now want to try again" was on a platform which is still reasonably available nowadays*, therefore emulation is not as often a hard necessity for "just playing the game" as many believe...

* this of course is going to be "fun" now that digital-only titles and 0day game updates are a thing, but it's a tangential issue

Mind you, maximum accuracy and the consumistic arms race that it drives does have its unfortunate implications (as a proud user of a 10 year old PC, like me, can confirm)!
 

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Intended play trumps all

Video games are art and should be treated as such

Emulation is cool and awesome but its just not the way the game should be played

I can stop reading a book at any point I like and pick it back up later.
Ditto and TV or film, even more so with bookmarks and pause buttons. I can also watch them on mute, or in fast forward. Fan edits and studio edits are also a thing (though I am happy enough for Alan Smithee to exist), as might be TV edits.

I can put salt, pepper, sauce or whatever on a fancy restaurant meal and mix a £400 bottle of wine with coke.

With art I can put it in a climate controlled gallery with full sunlight spectrum replication, or encase it in resin and use it as my coffee table.

Authorial intent is fun to talk the authors about, and contemplate in reviews and discussions. As far as anything to be respected... my screen, my rules, your intent means little.
They aren't the only ones. I didn't find BoTW to be that much fun. However I don't think people should compare it to other games in the Zelda franchise since it's taking a new approach. I can understand why some do find it fun but it just wasn't for me.

EDIT: On the topic of emulation I love my games to be flawless and as beautiful as possible so I much prefer the enhanced emulation approach vs the completely accurate approach.
As a standalone game I played better on the 360 from small European devs, indeed I often wondered if those playing it had missed the PS360 and PC of the same era and only had a Wii or something. Had I gone from snooze fests like xenoblade chronicles and all the others from that whining session I could see it being a leap. As it stands though it got a couple of amusing gimmicks the sum of its parts was way less than I would want.
I will give BOTW some credit. The early stuff I saw was classic small dev wants to take on the big boys but failed to realise how much effort open world takes to do well with all the hallmarks of that, that they went from that to bland but ultimately playable speaks to much.

That said if you call something Zelda, invoke Zelda tropes, invoke Zelda characters/story beats and advertise it as such then I would say don't be surprised if people treat it like a Zelda game. I would also say you could do a good Zelda game in the engine and style but this was a nice tech demo at best. Were that many people doing the "not my Zelda"/"Zelda in name only" thing though?
 
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Then you're playing it wrong. It's amazingly fun.
If you don't mind tedious busywork, what with the countless identical shrines and 900 Korok seeds and ridiculously-fragile weaponry and shields that strip any enjoyment out of getting "better gear" and having to traverse empty plain over empty plain and slow climbing over slow climbing whilst enduring the needless hindrance known as limited stamina. Oh, and no sense of direction whatsoever.

Yeah, no thank you. The Wind Waker's Great Sea seems to be mostly empty, but there's always some new ring of light to haul up to get 50 Rupees, or an objective to head towards. That's a far superior "open world", and it was first released on the GameCube! Not to mention how it lacks those unnecessary open-world hindrances in fragility and stamina and temperature.
Go play The Wind Waker instead; it's unfathomably better than Breath of the Wild.
 

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I mean if companies "mainly Sony" gave an official emulation a chance they wouldn't have to use alot money resources to create ReMastered games. I feel like the whole Xenosaga situation could have avoided that if emulation was taken up. Sure upscaled resolutions can be nice on nostalgia games, but most of us just want to re live those moments of having the said game on a new platform
 

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No it means you are 48 arguing with a kid over a video game
I'm 36, hardly a kid. And Doom 2016 rocked balls.

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They aren't the only ones. I didn't find BoTW to be that much fun. However I don't think people should compare it to other games in the Zelda franchise since it's taking a new approach. I can understand why some do find it fun but it just wasn't for me.

EDIT: On the topic of emulation I love my games to be flawless and as beautiful as possible so I much prefer the enhanced emulation approach vs the completely accurate approach.
DS games look fantastic using internal rendering upscaling. Games like Metroid Prime Hunters look staggering in an emulator that has internal render upscaling, it looks even better and more detailed than N64 games. Pokemon B&W too! You don't realize how much detail gets lost due to just the low resolution.
 

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in short, i like accuracy on retro *bit games but on modern modern 3d games id prefer to do enhanced experience any day. one thing about me as well, i am PCMR because im LAZY :rofl2: i dont like plugging, hooking up and changing disk/carts and consoles all the time i like everything in one, my pc that i can do everything in, as for hacking consoles to use emulators are the same reason all in one. i played BOTW on my wii u at first but at the time i moved around for work a lot so i had a gaming laptop at the time and i decided to play it there. then when i settled down a bit i built a desktop and i just pump up the graphics and try to make games look the best they can.
 

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I couldn't "get into it" at all; it's a boring open-world survival game, with all the hindrances and frustrations and emptiness and repetition of one, with just a thin Legend of Zelda veneer.
Not at all worth anyone's time; go buy Link's Awakening instead, since it's a much better game, and a definite Legend of Zelda game. This can also describe The Wind Waker HD, Twilight Princess (any of the three), A Link Between Worlds and Majora's Mask 3D (just install this restoration pack first).

...Why did this have to be focused so heavily on a mediocre game I would not want my worst enemies to play? Why not a FANTASTIC game, like the aforementioned The Wind Waker HD, Twilight Princess HD, or Pikmin 3?
I quite literally enjoyed BotW more than all of those other games put together. I can't think of a single game I've played in the last decade that I think back on as fondly as it. That's not to say that I didn't like those other games either, I really enjoyed all of them. To each their own. Regardless, is an article about emulation really the place to gripe about the game they happened to choose as an example? I have my own pet peeves that I'm tempted to bring up whenever they're even slightly related, but I do my best not to give in to the urge lest I become that one relative at family gatherings who is always complaining.
 
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Honestly, I believe that the whole argument about accuracy and preservation is illogical when you are playing on an emulator. In my opinion, emulators are more so about accessibility than providing a 1:1 experience. Yes, there are emulators that try their best to provide an accurate experience, but the mere act of playing anything on a PC vs the console it was intended for provides an inaccurate experience. But the truth is that finding and collecting decaying/abandoned systems and games can get rather pricey and even impossible in some cases (obscure titles, limited quantity, and extremely expensive). I say that people should stop worrying about whether something is an accurate representation or not and just play the damn game. Seriously, I always see purists that boast about their $100+ Frameisters and FPGA consoles as well as whole rooms full of video games, but they still aren't happy. And when I say that emulators are more about accessibility... I've seen multiple emulation users from South America, Middle East, and parts of Asia that are playing these games because the reality for them is that the hardware is near impossible to acquire on an average wage. While I appreciate that there are those that have a keen eye and can see inaccuracies in emulation (they help in providing a better experience for the rest) people need to stop shaming others that just want to have fun and play how they want. Accurate or Inaccurate just play what YOU prefer.

How's this for inaccuracy?!




 

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