Trump Impeachment: Public Hearings Have Begun

[Viri]

i fear this coming up war will doom more than the US.....all humankind may go extinct by years end if we get dragged in a thermonuclear war

Wanna put your money where your mouth is? Wanna bet 100 dollars on it? I'm serious, lol.

 

[notimp]

Viri drags out a one month old emotionally agitated reply from someone whose headspace clearly wasnt analytic - but dreary emotional, makes fun of them, and indicates that he even wants to make money off of their momentary laps of judgement.

Why?

 

[Hanafuda]

So in the House Managers’ big closing argument, Schiff said Trump must be stopped or he might sell Alaska to Russia in exchange for help in the 2020 election.

It was hyperbole, but still still just bizarre.

I’m glad this will be over soon.

 

[GhostLatte]

Why block witnesses if they have nothing to hide?

 

[morvoran]

Woo hoo!!! Donald J Trump is still our president, and the sham impeachment was proven to be nothing but a fantasy of the evil Dems to overrule our 2016 election results.

Sorry to all the liberals who were hoping for a miracle that the House dems' lies and mockery of our Constitution would result in an innocent president being removed. Better luck next time (which most likely will be very soon due to the democrats addiction to impeachment hearings).

 

[Hanafuda]

Why block witnesses if they have nothing to hide?

First and obvious answer: innocent until proven guilty. When a person stands accused in the United States, they have the right not to cooperate with or contribute to an investigation seeking to prove their guilt.

Slightly longer, more practical answer: The Democrats had the opportunity to call those witnesses before voting on articles of impeachment. The White House took them to Court over the validity of the subpoenas, and instead of waiting on a Court ruling the Democrats dropped their attempt to get all the witnesses they wanted. It was more important to them, apparently, to get everything done by a certain date, so as to minimally affect the Democrat primary and simultaneously get maximum damage on the President. So tough luck. They had 17 witnesses testify (18, if you count the one Schiff sealed so nobody would ever know what was said) and thousands of pages of documents in the record in the House, and Republicans weren't allowed to call anyone. The House Democrats gave the Senate Republicans a rotten apple, and you want to know why they didn't eat it?


Anyway, it's over now. Let's try to be decent to each other and stuff again, at least until the next big Orange Man Bad Takedown begins.

 

[Viri]

Viri drags out a one month old emotionally agitated reply from someone whose headspace clearly wasnt analytic - but dreary emotional, makes fun of them, and indicates that he even wants to make money off of their momentary laps of judgement.

Why?

Damn right I wanna make money off of it! And why did I respond to a post made a month ago? Because this thread is still relevant, it's not like I necro posted a 3 year old thread. Also, I didn't read the dates the post were made, because this thread is still relevant.

Also, he was acquitted. I didn't even pay attention to the news of the whole fiasco, because I knew the outcome at the end.

 

[GhostLatte]

First and obvious answer: innocent until proven guilty. When a person stands accused in the United States, they have the right not to cooperate with or contribute to an investigation seeking to prove their guilt.

Slightly longer, more practical answer: The Democrats had the opportunity to call those witnesses before voting on articles of impeachment. The White House took them to Court over the validity of the subpoenas, and instead of waiting on a Court ruling the Democrats dropped their attempt to get all the witnesses they wanted. It was more important to them, apparently, to get everything done by a certain date, so as to minimally affect the Democrat primary and simultaneously get maximum damage on the President. So tough luck. They had 17 witnesses testify (18, if you count the one Schiff sealed so nobody would ever know what was said) and thousands of pages of documents in the record in the House, and Republicans weren't allowed to call anyone. The House Democrats gave the Senate Republicans a rotten apple, and you want to know why they didn't eat it?


Anyway, it's over now. Let's try to be decent to each other and stuff again, at least until the next big Orange Man Bad Takedown begins.

I don't know still was super suspicious.

 

[chrisrlink]

welp time for plan B get the f*ck out of the USA

 

[the_randomizer]

Boy, what a nice waste of taxpayer money this was

 

[D34DL1N3R]

Woo hoo!!! Donald J Trump is still our president, and the sham impeachment was proven to be nothing but a fantasy of the evil Dems to overrule our 2016 election results.

Sorry to all the liberals who were hoping for a miracle that the House dems' lies and mockery of our Constitution would result in an innocent president being removed. Better luck next time (which most likely will be very soon due to the democrats addiction to impeachment hearings).

Uh. Yeah. Except you forgot the part where he was also impeached. He was impeached every bit as much as he was acquitted. You have zero bragging rights, but whatever floats your boat. As usual.

 

[Hanafuda]

Uh. Yeah. Except you forgot the part where he was also impeached. He was impeached every bit as much as he was acquitted. You have zero bragging rights, but whatever floats your boat. As usual.

Impeached simply means accused. It was a partisan political attack, it failed.

 

[Joe88]

Why block witnesses if they have nothing to hide?

Generally it was trying to delay the trial more than anything else, witnesses might have delayed the trial months, they were doing the same during the kavanaugh hearings.
It's just never ending, on to the next "this time trump is finished, its over for him" bombshell.

 

[Juggalo Debo]

this whole discussion has been great but "cant we all just get along"

 

[morvoran]

Uh. Yeah. Except you forgot the part where he was also impeached. He was impeached every bit as much as he was acquitted. You have zero bragging rights, but whatever floats your boat. As usual.

Oh, Trump (including I) have plenty of bragging rights. The House Dums tried to remove a legitimate president from office by making up false accusations and then making the Senate do all the work just because they hate him and the people who voted for him. The Senate Republicans(true American heroes in my book) were able to toss out all this BS back into the Dems face and told them to try again (in which they will also fail).

I hope the House and Senate Dums (including Mitt Romney's treacherous ass) look back at themselves to see how wrong they were to waste everyone's time and tax money on such a sorry piece of Schiff fiasco and put some real effort into helping Make America Great Again!!!

 

[Juggalo Debo]

Oh, Trump (including I) have plenty of bragging rights. The House Dums tried to remove a legitimate president from office by making up false accusations and then making the Senate do all the work just because they hate him and the people who voted for him. The Senate Republicans(true American heroes in my book) were able to toss out all this BS back into the Dems face and told them to try again (in which they will also fail).

I hope the House and Senate Dums (including Mitt Romney's treacherous ass) look back at themselves to see how wrong they were to waste everyone's time and tax money on such a sorry piece of Schiff fiasco and put some real effort into helping Make America Great Again!!!

woohoo "KEEP AMERICA GREAT"

 

[Ev1l0rd]

The White House took them to Court over the validity of the subpoenas, and instead of waiting on a Court ruling the Democrats dropped their attempt to get all the witnesses they wanted. It was more important to them, apparently, to get everything done by a certain date, so as to minimally affect the Democrat primary and simultaneously get maximum damage on the President. So tough luck.

Actually this was covered in the proceedings. They went ahead because if they had to work through the courts, Trump's lawyers could attempt to strand the proceedings in endless legal challenges (which isn't too unlikely, since that was pretty much what the White House spelled out they would do if they took it to court), effectively making impeachment useless if they engaged it in court.

 

[FGFlann]

I must say this has been an entertaining farce. Party politics are absolutely ridiculous.

 

[D34DL1N3R]

Impeached simply means accused. It was a partisan political attack, it failed.

Uh. No. It failed in Senate. It did not fail in house. Still impeached. FACT. The partisan acquittal was every bit as partisan as you claim the accusations were. See how that works? Didn't think so.

Oh, Trump (including I) have plenty of bragging rights. The House Dums tried to remove a legitimate president from office by making up false accusations and then making the Senate do all the work just because they hate him and the people who voted for him. The Senate Republicans(true American heroes in my book) were able to toss out all this BS back into the Dems face and told them to try again (in which they will also fail).

I hope the House and Senate Dums (including Mitt Romney's treacherous ass) look back at themselves to see how wrong they were to waste everyone's time and tax money on such a sorry piece of Schiff fiasco and put some real effort into helping Make America Great Again!!!

The ONLY thing I will EVER agree with you on, is that it was a complete waste of time and resources. But only because they were incredibly foolish to think for one second that Senate was going to also impeach. The rest of what you have to say is complete far right, fascist, bullshit. But that's nothing new. Everyone here just expects it out of you at this point. Laughable.

 

[morvoran]

The ONLY thing I will EVER agree with you on, is that it was a complete waste of time and resources. But only because they were incredibly foolish to think for one second that Senate was going to also impeach.

Oh, I'm sure there's plenty more that you agree with me on as you can't be as unreasonable and completely blinded by the BS coming from the mouths of Democrats.

The rest of what you have to say is complete far right, fascist, bullshit. But that's nothing new. Everyone here just expects it out of you at this point. Laughable.

Come on now. I've never said anything that is "far right, fascist, or bullshit." Don't be a piece of Schiff. You're better than that.