Does Trump provoke Iran as an election stunt?

[wartutor]

I cant wait till he gets re elected for another term. Piss off all these trump hating people. Never in the history of the usa has there been people screaming impeach since before the president took office. Be funny as hell if he won a 2nd term

 

[chrisrlink]

I live in Norfolk we have Langley AFB, ft eustis Army base, Oceana, Norfolk Naval base and several others, not only that but we have another target in the fasinity Surry nuclear Power station so yeah i'm nervious one or 2 sucessful missle strikes could cripple the east coast's defenses

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I cant wait till he gets re elected for another term. Piss off all these trump hating people. Never in the history of the usa has there been people screaming impeach since before the president took office. Be funny as hell if he won a 2nd term

so your basicly voting for a war and countless deaths? this isn't afghanistan we're talking about we just pissed off a country with nukes or will be obtaining

 

[RaptorDMG]

I live in Norfolk we have Langley AFB, ft eustis Army base, Oceana, Norfolk Naval base and several others, not only that but we have another target in the fasinity Surry nuclear Power station so yeah i'm nervious one or 2 sucessful missle strikes could cripple the east coast's defenses

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so your basicly voting for a war and countless deaths? this isn't afghanistan we're talking about we just pissed off a country with nukes or will be obtaining

Irans missiles only have range for Europe so it's only your allies that will get hit so who cares about starting a war and if Iran doesn't have nuke estimates put it at 12 monthes for them to get them if they start now with all their resources

 

[UltraDolphinRevolution]

Soleimani's direct actions led to his death. He has been on a list for years and should of been taken out way before this. At what point do you decide that a persons death is better than allowing him to continue plotting and killing others.

He was actually on the ground fighting ISIS, making him a war hero (compared to keyboard hero Trump).
Whether he used proxies in Iraq to attack US targets has not been proven as my trust in American intelligence is "slightly" hampered.
But let's say - for the sake of argument - that he has been plotting with and using proxies to attack American targets.
How is that any different from the US supporting 50 shades of Jihad in order to get rid of - for example - Assad?

The only difference is that America is foreign to those lands. It's as if Russia, China or Iran were to meddle in Latin America.
America changed the game by attacking an official.
BTW the equivalent of Trump attacking Iran itself after today's rockets attack (which he had warned of before it) would be Iran committing acts of terror in the US, not somewhere in the Middle East.

If trump wanted to do something to bring attention to his election then he would of ordered that kim wong (what ever his fuckin name is) in charge of north korea executed and proceeded to try and free those people.

Yeah, let's hope Russia frees your people by bombing the shit out of America. Unfortunately this combination of arrogance and ignorance is not unique.

 

[chrisrlink]

if anyone dies from this once trump is removed or exits normally (highly doubt that unless the GOP is that fucking stupid to keep a warcriminal in power) he should be charged with X # of capital murder (depending on how many die) and be bubba's bitch for the rest of his life (death penilty is too lienent in this case imo)

 

[Glyptofane]

Let's not forget how hawkish Clinton was on Syria and Iran. This entire situation may have been unavoidable no matter who was elected. At least she was honest about it, I guess, where Trump has now betrayed a good portion of his base after appearing to run on anti-war lies. Attacking Israel's enemies and pushing to ban benign substances seem to be issues both parties agree on. You can expect the hostilities to continue if a Democrat is elected. Depending how this plays out, I really believe this has the potential to damage Trump more than the impeachment fiasco.

 

[leon315]

This a desperate attempt to raise his popularity since the general's opinion started to shift away when Impeachment began.

Third.

Russia.

Trump could be the 4th: NIXON after the Watergate scandal had 100% of chance to be impeached, but he later resigned first.

 

[Hanafuda]

So the President just basically said "nobody got hurt last night and you got your save-face moment so ok we'll let it slide but don't fuck with us anymore. We're willing to work out a deal for your country going forward but we're all out of patience with the proxy terror war bullshit."

I guess now you guys are going to call him a coward for not dropping the bombs.

 

[notimp]

Question would be, did Trump kill a dude as an election stunt, wouldnt it?

"The justifications for immanent danger are razor thin", right? But thats just for the rest of the world. The US is usually blind on the killing foreign people eye. Because they world police. Someone has to do it... Kinda...

 

[Xzi]

So the President just basically said "nobody got hurt last night and you got your save-face moment so ok we'll let it slide but don't fuck with us anymore. We're willing to work out a deal for your country going forward but we're all out of patience with the proxy terror war bullshit."

I guess now you guys are going to call him a coward for not dropping the bombs.

No, ultimately I'm quite happy with the outcome, it's a good thing Iran was willing to show restraint. Now I only worry that any random attack in or around the Middle East will be blamed on Iran without evidence, and we'll be right back to the brink of war again. It's certainly not going to be easy to get the muzzle back on a lot of Trump's more rabid pro-war supporters, either. But such is life with an impulsive manchild as president, c'est la vie.

 

[MikaDubbz]

Why is "he'll be removed from office soon," even an option? We all know that the Republican controlled Senate isn't going vote him out, like that isn't even a remote possibility.

 

[Scar557]

Afaik right now he's doing nothing, trying to get away from the war, which is funny because anti-Trumps are going from " He's provoking Iran as an election stunt " to " He's not provoking Iran as an election stunt ".

Bruh.

 

[Gon Freecss]

edit: oopsie! so many do-nothing democrats got triggered by my post ​

 

[Glyptofane]

That timeline is missing all provocations against Iran by belligerents near and far as well as at least 40 more years of incidents.

 

[wartutor]

That timeline is missing all provocations against Iran by belligerents near and far as well as at least 40 more years of incidents.

And yet it still has the main point everyone jumping on the "its trump's fault" bandwagon bunch of fuckin sheep.

 

[WD_GASTER2]

And yet it still has the main point everyone jumping on the "its trump's fault" bandwagon bunch of fuckin sheep.

you may want to re-read what he just posted.
No one is gonna defend Iran.
quite frankly i think the issue here is that the general US population has no appetite for yet another armed conflict. unless you are craving our country rack up a couple of more trillion in debt

 

[wartutor]

you may want to re-read what he just posted.
No one is gonna defend Iran.
quite frankly i think the issue here is that the general US population has no appetite for yet another armed conflict. unless you are craving our country rack up a couple of more trillion in debt

True. But hell whats a few more trillion when our country gives 400m to Ukraine (not to mention all the money we give to other nations that isnt constantly talked about) instead of spending it on there own poor and hungry. My main question is wheres my wall. Lol

 

[Rioluwott]

True. But hell whats a few more trillion when our country gives 400m to Ukraine (not to mention all the money we give to other nations that isnt constantly talked about) instead of spending it on there own poor and hungry. My main question is wheres my wall. Lol

if this gets worse i want that wall too

 

[Xzi]

My main question is wheres my wall. Lol

if this gets worse i want that wall too

Democratic Socialists: "maybe we should spend tax dollars on getting our citizens universal healthcare and tuition-free college."
GOP/MAGAts: "let's spend all our tax dollars on a wall in the middle of the fucking desert which will be completely decayed and useless inside of five years."

This wouldn't even be a debate in any country with a half-decent education system. It never ceases to amaze me how petty and spiteful some people can be. You would deny all of us the benefits of living in a wealthy, first-world country just to maybe keep out a few brown people seeking refuge. And then you don't even bother to call out the true source of the problem: neocon/neolib corporations continuing to hire illegal migrant workers en masse without shame. Nothing in this country will ever improve as long as our only god is money.

 

[Rioluwott]

Democratic Socialists: "maybe we should spend tax dollars on getting our citizens universal healthcare and tuition-free college."
GOP/MAGAts: "let's spend all our tax dollars on a wall in the middle of the fucking desert which will be completely decayed and useless inside of five years."

This wouldn't even be a debate in any country with a half-decent education system. It never ceases to amaze me how petty and spiteful some people can be. You would deny all of us the benefits of living in a wealthy, first-world country just to maybe keep out a few brown people seeking refuge. And then you don't even bother to call out the true source of the problem: neocon/neolib corporations continuing to hire illegal migrant workers en masse without shame.

i was joking if you couldnt tell
since im mexican and i dont want any kind of conflict from another country to reach my own,
of course the idea of a wall that large is simply idiotic and people thinking is somehow plausible (and of top of that trying a third world country to pay for it without any kind of previous agreement) just show how ignorant they can be.
lets hope this doesnt turn worse and we can live a peaceful life since problems between governments are not ours, if a war starts it would be the citizens the ones in combat and not the ones that actually started it