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Dying too young: Deaths among middle-aged adults reversing life expectancy trends

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In related news the hive mind attacked a young and attractive lady for her husband getting her a present she asked for that she used to get herself into shape with. A little longer after the attack the actor / comedian Ryan Reynolds (Deadpool actor) jumped in on the action and had her make another commercial that has now "sparked a mass triggering". You gotta love comedians that buck the politically correct social justice morons.

https://www.zerohedge.com/health/ryan-reynolds-pounces-peloton-wife-gin-commercial

I'm actually impressed that this many people are salty and offended that fit, healthy, and attractive people would be interested in maintaining their fit, healthy, and attractive lifestyles. Seeings as I fit into that category and am attacked for telling people that it's not healthy to be obese, do drugs, etc ...

Society is getting pretty weird with its herd mentality reaction to everything. The herd shouldn’t take everything so seriously. It’s like we are evolving into bees or something. Individuality is dead and gone.
 
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In related news the hive mind attacked a young and attractive lady for her husband getting her a present she asked for that she used to get herself into shape with. A little longer after the attack the actor / comedian Ryan Reynolds (Deadpool actor) jumped in on the action and had her make another commercial that has now "sparked a mass triggering". You gotta love comedians that buck the politically correct social justice morons.

https://www.zerohedge.com/health/ryan-reynolds-pounces-peloton-wife-gin-commercial
Insanity at public display.

The amount of 'caring' put into random stuff is beyond believe here.

I dont want to see the world through cots lense. Its warped.

And neither do you.

(Also he now offtopics his own threads simply to spew hate.)

News story is 'private realm' at most, meaning - not a news story. What Bob got Lucy for christmas is not of public or political importance. Regardless of what the twittersphere says one way or the other.

Also - comedians arent backing cots point, because cots point is hate. (Or more precisely - you've got to love hate.)

If you as a comedian transition to hate in your act - you are out of the profession.

So much wrong with this statement.


Also - mechanics are 'insult baiting' on this one. Say something that is socially 'triggering' to a subgroup, create public outfall, then say - but thats what she wanted for christmas - which makes everyone look silly. Then milk it for 'subgroup so silly' public demeaning potential.

Bigger point being - this is not an issue of political or societal importance - you've been insult baited. Jinx.
 
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Insanity at public display.

The amount of 'caring' put into random stuff is beyond believe here.

I dont want to see the world through cots lense. Its warped.

And neither do you.

(Also he now offtopics his own threads simply to spew hate.)

News story is 'private realm' at most, meaning - not a news story. What Bob got Lucy for christmas is not of public or political importance. Regardless of what the twittersphere says one way or the other.

Also - comedians arent backing cots point, because cots point is hate. (Or more precisely - you've got to love hate.)

If you as a comedian transition to hate in your act - you are out of the profession.

So much wrong with this statement.


Also - mechanics are 'insult baiting' on this one. Say something that is socially 'triggering' to a subgroup, create public outfall, then say - but thats what she wanted for christmas - which makes everyone look silly. Then milk it for 'subgroup so silly' public demeaning potential.

Bigger point being - this is not an issue of political or societal importance - you've been insult baited. Jinx.

I didn't want to make an entire new thread based on this single event as WeedZ clearly wants the discussion related to ones weight kept in under a single thread. Seeings as part of the reason why adults are dying younger is the fact that they're obese and that the backlash over these new advertisements are from people slandering someone and body shaming them for simply asking her husband to buy her a workout machine and then who spent a year losing weight doing what she wanted to do I think it completely relates to the topic on hand. What she did for herself was a very good thing; actually one of the best things she could have done. I'm glad her husband was able to help her achieve her goal and I'm also glad Ryan Reynolds, a great actor, who is also in good shape stood up for her. Did you know this "event" was searched more this past week then the word "impeachment"? Even Baby Yoda was more interesting to people than other current events. Seeings as this is the case the post I made and the URL I linked to is more relevant then you care to acknowledge.
 
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Too convoluted. If people die because of obesity (not confimed, that this is the reason for the dip here), then there is a factor of personal responsibility that outweighs 'societal pressures'. Also again - you cant make a personal story of a husband gifting something to his wife - part of a 'pseudo political' story trope. You just cant. Different spheres.

If people react with interest to it on twitter - it still doesn't make it a story of importance, or political importance. Its just fluff. (What it does in my case is, that 'fluff' filter engages, and I do a 'get the heck out' response. ;) )

Also thats another part of why we need privacy in societies. People are too easily baited into mob mentalities based on personal conduct. If you make that a matter of political importance just to please that instinct - all kind of bad stuff happens. Never do politics (or political PR) on 'you won't believe what Bob did to Lucy' level. Thats just bad.
 
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Too convoluted. If people die because of obesity (not confimed, that this is the reason for the dip here), then there is a factor of personal responsibility that outweighs 'societal pressures'. Also again - you cant make a personal story of a husband gifting something to his wife - part of a 'pseudo political' story trope. You just cant. Different spheres.

If people react with interest to it on twitter - it still doesn't make it a story of importance, or political importance. Its just fluff. (What it does in my case is, that 'fluff' filter engages, and I do a 'get the heck out' response. ;) )

Also thats another part of why we need privacy in societies. People are too easily baited into mob mentalities based on personal conduct. If you make that a matter of political importance just to please that instinct - all kind of bad stuff happens. Never do politics (or political PR) on 'you won't believe what Bob did to Lucy' level. Thats just bad.

Okay, you don't like the story. It was the most searched for story under Baby Yoda in the past week. I found it relevant and so did most of the USA. Obesity commonly leads to Heart disease and stroke, High blood pressure, Diabetes, Some cancers, Gallbladder disease and gallstones, Osteoarthritis, Gout, and Breathing problems, such as sleep apnea (when a person stops breathing for short episodes during sleep) and asthma. Most of these things will kill you. If you combine using deadly drugs with obesity, which all of the symptoms listed plus the drugs will cause your mental health to decline I don't see any reason why people would chose to live like that or claim it's completely okay to do (as doing so will lead to an early death). How many obese 90 year olds do you come across? So you have Twitter outrage that took over the nation in the past week based on the fact that a company ran an add about a women who's husband bought her an exercise machine that she wanted and she used it like she wanted to and that was to lose weight, keep the weight off to live healthy. The backlash from the politically correct Leftist morons was because she chose to be healthy and look good! "If you choose to be healthy and try to get other people to be healthy we'll attack you!". It's the same thing I'm being attacked for by the other forum members in this very same thread! I want people to be healthy and live longer and somehow I'm the bad guy! If you can't see a problem with this then I can't help you.
 
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Okay, you don't like the story. It was the most searched for story under Baby Yoda in the past week. I found it relevant and so did most of the USA.
Relevant for 'trending on twitter', yes. (See Baby Yoda (three times the engangement compared to any current political topic).)

Story of social political importance - no.

Also, I just clued in, that this was an ad gone wrong (have seen it now), right? Where a training bike company prouduced a 'I'm so happy that you made me train more through buying for me bike with gamification tablet, thank you god husband' angle - without the slightest bit of irony, as a marketing message.

That already isnt socially acceptable, and has not been for more than my lifetime. So of course there is fallout. Thats not a story about 'tha SJWs being triggered and then being told off by comedians you gotta love'.

If we're not talking about different stories.

So to end up at your angle, heavy extremist right mindbend is needed.


And you pulled that stunt in the same thread, where you were complimented for picking up on an issue pf political importance (young people die earlier again), for once. Just because you wanted to keep your hate narrative going. Which of course in the best Pepe the frog way - you packaged as 'haha, isnt hate hilarious'. To try to circumvent existing social taboos.
 
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I'd chime in about keto with a disclaimer. It is a diet that is best subscribed to those who aren't loosing weight by cutting calories and portion sizing w/ exercise. But people really underestimate the toll on the liver and kidneys in entering and staying in ketosis for long periods of time. Generally speaking, our bodies weren't designed for this diet. However, if you aren't carrying predispositions like a fatty liver or any kidney issues, it can be an effective tool which can be transitioned to a calorie controlled lifestyle modification once a target weight is reached to give reprieve to the organ stress that is induced.

Keto often causes diarrhea, which can cause electrolyte imbalance and dehydration. This requires attentive monitoring when on Keto, stay hydrated.

If you have predispositions like Type 1 or Type 2 diabetes you can have enter ketoacidosis by a buildup of ketones in the blood. Consultation w/ a primary care physician would be preferred before making a serious venture into a new dietary lifestyle to ensure proper planning.

@cots your partisanship over health concerns presented in this thread is a low I didn't expect, but that's my fault for retaining some semblance of innate respect for those who are anonymous.

The backlash from the politically correct Leftist morons was because she chose to be healthy and look good! "If you choose to be healthy and try to get other people to be healthy we'll attack you!". It's the same thing I'm being attacked for by the other forum members in this very same thread! I want people to be healthy and live longer and somehow I'm the bad guy! If you can't see a problem with this then I can't help you.

I see a problem in attaching a political agenda in something that majority of people teased a company over a commercial. If you stepped away from far-right conspiracy sites long enough to realize the average person doesn't see politics in this but a commercial that was comical, for a variety of reasons, you would improve your own mental state. That amount of vitrol is not doing anything for you. If only billapong was here to explain that to you.

If you think anyone is targeting you because you want people to be healthy. Well you are oblivious, but we know that's not the case, its because you are pushing a false narrative to appease your partisan worldview and try to assert this false narrative as reality.

Finally, congrats for @cots to loosing 70lbs. That is an accomplishment and you deserve to be applauded. I'll leave this thread with a positive.
 
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I'd chime in about keto with a disclaimer. It is a diet that is best subscribed to those who aren't loosing weight by cutting calories and portion sizing w/ exercise. But people really underestimate the toll on the liver and kidneys in entering and staying in ketosis for long periods of time. Generally speaking, our bodies weren't designed for this diet. However, if you aren't carrying predispositions like a fatty liver or any kidney issues, it can be an effective tool which can be transitioned to a calorie controlled lifestyle modification once a target weight is reached to give reprieve to the organ stress that is induced.

Keto often causes diarrhea, which can cause electrolyte imbalance and dehydration. This requires attentive monitoring when on Keto, stay hydrated.

If you have predispositions like Type 1 or Type 2 diabetes you can have enter ketoacidosis by a buildup of ketones in the blood. Consultation w/ a primary care physician would be preferred before making a serious venture into a new dietary lifestyle to ensure proper planning.

@cots your partisanship over health concerns presented in this thread is a low I didn't expect, but that's my fault for retaining some semblance of innate respect for those who are anonymous.

I see a problem in attaching a political agenda in something that majority of people teased a company over a commercial. If you stepped away from far-right conspiracy sites long enough to realize the average person doesn't see politics in this but a commercial that was comical, for a variety of reasons, you would improve your own mental state. That amount of vitrol is not doing anything for you. If only billapong was here to explain that to you.

If you think anyone is targeting you because you want people to be healthy. Well you are oblivious, but we know that's not the case, its because you are pushing a false narrative to appease your partisan worldview and try to assert this false narrative as reality.

Finally, congrats for @cots to loosing 70lbs. That is an accomplishment and you deserve to be applauded. I'll leave this thread with a positive.

Before we introduced lots of carbs into our diets we humans were all on a keto based diet. The modern diet, especially grains, are recent things. Keto was the defacto way our bodies developed. It's wise to drink lots of water no matter your diet, but once the "keto flu" is over I didn't have any amount of excessive diarrhea. I am a Type II diabetic and shocked my endocrinologist when I showed up after 3 months and was reduced from 6 meds to 1 med. My heart problems also mainly went away (being obese causes all sorts of negative shit to happen to your body). I'm not in complete remission from Diabetes, but I'm no longer under threat of losing my eye sight or developing Diabetic neuropathy. So keto + exercise worked wonders. It's just too bad I can't afford it any longer. I'm on a very low carb high exercise diet now and it works, but Keto + moderate exercise was much better.

I admit I let myself go. @monkeyman4412 got all pissy because I said I understand the type of person who has a high metabolism because I was one of those people. I was thin up until 30. No matter what I ate or how much I could not gain weight. I could eat three triple stack burgers from Wendy's or two Large Domino's Pizzas every night for a week and not gain a single pound. Even working out all those years I could barely gain any muscle mass (I'm not skin and bones, but it sucks to spend months lifting to barely look like you put any effort into it). So I completely understand how genetics work into things. Now that my metabolism has gone to shit I have to work much harder than some other people my age to keep the weight off. The damned diabetic med (insulin) also doesn't help as it slows it down to a crawl. Being obese is in no, way shape or form healthy and it's totally curable. Some people just have to work harder than others. Diet + Exercise is the solution regardless of any other problems. There's no excuse to not try to stay healthy. Want some bipartisan stuff? Trump is a fat lard ass and needs to cut some pounds. Keto would do him well.

I admit the site I sourced to does have some rather hilarious far-right stuff on it, but it's a site that allows almost anyone to post news on it (and use aliases when doing so). There's a lot of accurate and valuable stories posted to it and there's also a lot of complete and utter bullshit posted to it (that makes for lots of ROFL). See, unlike Liberals who will shun you from reading sites they label "far right" or whatever, I read all of the sites. I rather not belong to a group that would forbid you from learning what the other side thinks. I mean, if it's all bullshit then why would it hurt to read it? I refuse to fall into the Liberal "Fox news hate" crap. I'll read whatever sites I want to read and I am knowledgeable enough to pick out the shit (like fat acceptance on CNN) and know that the article I linked to on Zero Hedge about the commercial was accurate. Every single news site I visit, which includes local, state, national and international all do contain bullshit at times. I just rather hear both sides of the issue and make up my own mind. I don't need a bunch of brainwashed peers telling me what to think, how to think or what I can or cannot think.

I do spend hours every day discussing topics with others on Liberal sites and Conservative sites. I've posted hundreds of thousands of messages on various forums so I know the political climate. You doubt the Liberals want socialism? Go spend a few weeks posting anything that highlights the negative aspects of Socialism on ArsTechnica or ABC News. Anyway, back to the story I linked to - It's the entitled SJW, Liberal fat acceptance and feminist idiots who were outraged by the advertisement. This directly relates to how the Liberal media goes about misinforming people about how easy it is to lose weight and how they try to convince them they can't and it's hopeless. I mean, look at Juice WRLD who just died. The media tried to prop him up as some evangelical of the emo rap scene that was some loving soul and could do no wrong. I guess the possession of illegal firearms, 70 pounds of drugs, bottles of liquid codeine and the other stuff the FBI found on his private jet just like fell out of the sky and ended up in it's cargo hold. Surely, his legal issues were all misunderstandings or "the man" was after him because of his skin color. Give me a break. The kid was a stereotypical drug dealing criminal. He's a clear example of how the media is trying to justify drug use as being okay. The toxicology reports haven't been made public yet, but I wouldn't be surprised that the seizure he died from was caused by excessive amounts of narcotics in his blood stream.

Being obese is not okay! You can and should keep a healthy weight! Deadly drugs will kill you!

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Relevant for 'trending on twitter', yes. (See Baby Yoda (three times the engangement compared to any current political topic).)

Story of social political importance - no.

It was and still is being talked about in our nation. I thought using something that was trending and being posted and discussed about on almost every single national news network would help highlight the type of people that are trying to justify that being overweight is okay. The outrage was pretty simple - the SWJ, Liberals and feminists accused the company of the implication that the husband was fat-shaming the wife, even though she was clearly not overweight, or that he’s controlling and manipulative because he got her a piece of exercise equipment. This is utter bullshit. People shouldn't be outraged that someone wants to better themselves. They should be outraged at fat lard asses going around telling others it's okay to chose to die young because they are too stupid or lazy to do anything about themselves and have to justify feeling shitty by dragging other people down with them.
 
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