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It is now currently my Team Fortress 2 in-game spray.
 
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It is now currently my Team Fortress 2 in-game spray.

TFW Soy Sauce could be a great euphemism for Chinese Semen... Although I am fairly Certain that Blizzard ingests large dosages of Soy as it is, my point still stands.
 
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I can understand how realizing how favoring communism can lead to problems. This is why I question people against the Chinese tariffs. If you're against Blizzard favoring China and then are against Trump for trying to make China less of an influence in our own country then you have personal issues that are causing confliction within yourself. I agree that China goes way too far with many things, but they are communists. What do you expect? If we adopt socialism we're one step closer to becoming them. Blizzard shouldn't be favoring communism nor should any other USA citizen.
 
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I can understand how realizing how favoring communism can lead to problems. This is why I question people against the Chinese tariffs. If you're against Blizzard favoring China and then are against Trump for trying to make China less of an influence in our own country then you have personal issues that are causing confliction within yourself.
US citizens aren't buying fewer Chinese goods simply because there are tariffs on them, that's why they haven't been effective. If conservatives are concerned about being hypocritical, they'll have to stop shopping at Wal-Mart, and I think hell will sooner freeze over before that happens.

I agree that China goes way too far with many things, but they are communists. What do you expect? If we adopt socialism we're one step closer to becoming them. Blizzard shouldn't be favoring communism nor should any other USA citizen.
China's inequality is second only to the USA's. Blizzard and other corporations are obligated to bow to the authoritarian Chinese government simply because China has the largest consumer base on Earth, which makes this a problem caused by over-zealous capitalism.

While I agree that communism as a system doesn't do enough to account for the human condition, historically it's never been given an honest chance to function as intended, least of all in China. The government likes to hide behind the title of communism just so they can pretend they're different from Western civilizations in some meaningful way, but ultimately they're succumbing to capitalist oligarchy just as we are. Just as we do, they've got haves and have-nots, with a virtually non-existent middle class.
 
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US citizens aren't buying fewer Chinese goods simply because there are tariffs on them, that's why they haven't been effective. If conservatives are concerned about being hypocritical, they'll have to stop shopping at Wal-Mart, and I think hell will sooner freeze over before that happens.
Well, that's why I like to buy most of my goods from local sources. Trying to find meat from a real slaughterhouse is tricky where I live, though, so I still haven't got that fleshed out. In the meantime, Reasor's provides acceptable enough meat, provided you pay high-dollar for it. Which I don't and I should :P
 
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Well, that's why I like to buy most of my goods from local sources. Trying to find meat from a real slaughterhouse is tricky where I live, though, so I still haven't got that fleshed out. In the meantime, Reasor's provides acceptable enough meat, provided you pay high-dollar for it. Which I don't and I should :P
I'm thinking about starting a vegetarian diet to cut out meat costs. I'm not actually starting the diet, just thinking about starting the diet.
 
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I feel like Blizzard didn't stop to think of what doing this would cause. Because at the end of the day this will hurt them much more than help them. I feel like they act right away without actually thinking of the massive mess this will cause. If anyone at blizzard thought this wouldn't cause any drama before they did this. Then they probably should look for a new type of job lolol.
 

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To bastardise a quote from layer cake.

Always remember that one day all this not offending China business will be normal. They won't leave it to just those in China... not when they finally figure out how much money is to be made - not millions, fucking billions. Sanitised Entertainment PLC - giving the people what the people's party wants... Good times of today will be tepid stupor tomorrow. But this is now, so until prohibition starts in earnest make hay while the sun shines.
 

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To think this whole kerfluffle could have been prevented by:

A: Properly stating the rules where political statements aren't permitted, not a "At our discretion" line.
B: Not firing* the casters. Clearly they knew that what he said wasn't good.
C: Stating clearly "While we understand some people have their preferences, our platform is not to be used for a political movement".

The wording on C is important. They don't want to be clearly for or against China, just acknowledge he has his point of view.

* - I use fire, they simply contracted these guys and won't bring them back (which is fairly similar to being fired). For what? Because they knew what he did was wrong and they didn't want the situation to explode? Seems the production team completely slipped up too, why did we not hear about them?
 

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US citizens aren't buying fewer Chinese goods simply because there are tariffs on them, that's why they haven't been effective. If conservatives are concerned about being hypocritical, they'll have to stop shopping at Wal-Mart, and I think hell will sooner freeze over before that happens.


China's inequality is second only to the USA's. Blizzard and other corporations are obligated to bow to the authoritarian Chinese government simply because China has the largest consumer base on Earth, which makes this a problem caused by over-zealous capitalism.

While I agree that communism as a system doesn't do enough to account for the human condition, historically it's never been given an honest chance to function as intended, least of all in China. The government likes to hide behind the title of communism just so they can pretend they're different from Western civilizations in some meaningful way, but ultimately they're succumbing to capitalist oligarchy just as we are. Just as we do, they've got haves and have-nots, with a virtually non-existent middle class.

Socialism has been tried plenty of times, enough to know it doesn't work out. How would you deal with the people in the USA that would refuse to adopt it if it were passed? I'd imagine it would be worse than how you deal with critics now. You'll never have complete control over anyone else, let alone yourself, and especially not me.

I can remember when Wal Mart started, they used to stock 100% "Made in the USA" products. You wouldn't find one single item not made in the States, but when the owner died the new leadership scum used the good name he had made for the company and sold out to China. Depending on the location you visit most of the food will be locally grown, but the food prices have been going up because of the tariffs on Chinese garbage. They're trying to offset the costs. It's best to shop at local farmers markets, meat markets, etc ... anyway.

I know it's more of a hassle and costs a bit more to shop around, but once everything is said and done you can get your goods for around what you'd pay at Wal Mart and also support your local community. Now that they're raising prices on food due to the higher prices on their Chinese garbage it might be a good time to find an alternative source. No one really needs a "super center" to begin with, especially one filled with cheap shit that won't last your a year.

I wonder if the ownership that sold out to China were Liberals? I haven't really looked into the issue, but it wouldn't surprise me.

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Well, that's why I like to buy most of my goods from local sources. Trying to find meat from a real slaughterhouse is tricky where I live, though, so I still haven't got that fleshed out. In the meantime, Reasor's provides acceptable enough meat, provided you pay high-dollar for it. Which I don't and I should :P

I purchase my meat in bulk from local meat markets. We're omnivores, so it would be stupid for me to cut out meat out of my diet completely, but I don't just eat the stuff that comes from cows. I like a variety and steaks cost a lot. I'd say buying in bulk can save you $50 - $150 a month depending on how much you buy. Well, at least compared to normal prices in normal chain based grocery stores.

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I feel like Blizzard didn't stop to think of what doing this would cause. Because at the end of the day this will hurt them much more than help them. I feel like they act right away without actually thinking of the massive mess this will cause. If anyone at blizzard thought this wouldn't cause any drama before they did this. Then they probably should look for a new type of job lolol.

I don't think politics have any place in video games. People are already trying to turn anything they can into a political thing, which really ruins stuff like tragic deaths, natural disasters and now video games. There's a difference between telling a story and trying to force action on a current political movement (or trying to tell people who to vote for). That shit has no place in games.

Example: IGN saying "It's time to vote" versus IGN running anti-Trump articles. I don't need to get the Left's daily hate intake through the games or gaming sites I'm visiting. Saying "Get out and vote" is fine, but trying to influence my vote is not. Case- Anti-Trump hate on tariffs that are penalizing China for slave labor and cheap crap that might result in higher prices for video gaming consoles. If you're going to bash China over this and you don't support tariffs because you want cheap shit then you're part of the problem. At the end of the day I rather not have to deal with the intolerant Left when I'm trying to play a game.
 
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To think this whole kerfluffle could have been prevented by:

A: Properly stating the rules where political statements aren't permitted, not a "At our discretion" line.
B: Not firing* the casters. Clearly they knew that what he said wasn't good.
C: Stating clearly "While we understand some people have their preferences, our platform is not to be used for a political movement".

The wording on C is important. They don't want to be clearly for or against China, just acknowledge he has his point of view.

* - I use fire, they simply contracted these guys and won't bring them back (which is fairly similar to being fired). For what? Because they knew what he did was wrong and they didn't want the situation to explode? Seems the production team completely slipped up too, why did we not hear about them?
I do think they could have save face, if they just added a new rule, where they say no politics allowed. But, if they did that, they'd have a hard time being able to virtue signal in the west.

More gaming companies should look at Nintendo. Doesn't matter which side you're on, no politics allowed, period. You'd remove the risk of alienating a bunch of fans.
 
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I do think they could have save face, if they just added a new rule, where they say no politics allowed. But, if they did that, they'd have a hard time being able to virtue signal in the west.

More gaming companies should look at Nintendo. Doesn't matter which side you're on, no politics allowed, period. You'd remove the risk of alienating a bunch of fans.

It's just sad that if public figures or companies express their political views that life long fans would refuse to use their products over simple differences. So we're left with people or companies that have views, but never express them. It's not like that people don't have political views. To simply pounce on some company because they finally share how they think after you've been a long time fan is pretty petty and shows how intolerant you are, but that's just how people are these days (I'm guilty of this myself sometimes). So yes I agree. Due to the fact people are stupid video gaming companies should follow Nintendo's example and just not share their views publicly and refrain from pushing politics (in any form) in gaming.
 
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It always surprises me when I hear about Americans buying food at Walmart, cos my mental picture of Walmart is a department store like Kmart here in New Zealand. In New Zealand, buying groceries and a games console in the same store is unheard of.

We do have lollies and soda at The Warehouse, but that's about it for food in a department store.
 

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It always surprises me when I hear about Americans buying food at Walmart, cos my mental picture of Walmart is a department store like Kmart here in New Zealand. In New Zealand, buying groceries and a games console in the same store is unheard of.
Oh, you have Kmart too? We have a couple in Los Angeles, CA.

We do have lollies and soda at The Warehouse, but that's about it for food in a department store.
You have lolis and soda in a warehouse?? You bastard, let them out!
 

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Socialism has been tried plenty of times, enough to know it doesn't work out. How would you deal with the people in the USA that would refuse to adopt it if it were passed?
Not an issue since no candidate running is truly a Socialist by definition. Democratic Socialist is essentially synonymous with New Deal Democrat, and New Deal policies led to the most successful 50-year period of American history. Absolute horseshit to suggest it "didn't work out," the crony capitalist system we have now is what isn't working. In the richest nation on Earth, people are dying from homelessness, starvation, and out of control healthcare costs.

I can remember when Wal Mart started, they used to stock 100% "Made in the USA" products.
I don't remember this ever being the case (at least not since I've been alive). Wal-Mart's products have always been priced on the very low end, and they've always made a profit for the company anyway. That's only possible with cheap Chinese goods.

I wonder if the ownership that sold out to China were Liberals? I haven't really looked into the issue, but it wouldn't surprise me.
There are people on both sides of the political spectrum willing to sell out their morals and values in the name of greater corporate profit. They're called neoconservatives and neoliberals, and I've said it before, but they're two sides of the same bootlicking coin.
 
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