Suggestion. I think we should ban political threads.

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It's causing a lot of tension, pissing me off, as well as others, and there are far too many trolls.

I think we should just get rid of this section. It just causes division and frustration. Thanks.

(I don't really care about discussing whether or not this is a good or a bad idea i jusy wanted to get my opinion out there.)
 
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Personally I just ignore them, occasionally reading threads to my amusement (or my disgust).
Politics are everywhere, we cannot help it.
Having that stuff concentrated in a single section is definitely a good thing.
 

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American Politics are a joke. Republicans and Democrats are all the same. I agree with banning political discussion. This is a site about hacking video game consoles, not politics
 

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Censorship is always wrong.

Said by a member in good standing for almost ten years on this gaming website who has been blessed with a level 3 warning.

Some people become mods to make up for what they will never actually be in real life. I hope the mod to whom I am referring reads this and finds a girlfriend.

You're the equivalent of a cop who gets a badge to add an extra two inches to his lacking manhood.

You'll recognize this mod by whether or not they strike me for this, but I digress.

Others want to restrict speech that they don't agree with so they can appear to be on "the right side".

Both are pathetic.
 
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One argument for the sub forum, as a response to the "this is a gaming forum" argument:

Sure, people have billions of places to vent their views and opinions, but this isn't about venting. It's about the community.
If I want to discuss politics with this community, because of the people I share an interest with, then that's great to be able to do so, right?
Just like discussing movies or music within this community, there's a reason why people want to do it with THIS community and not on some other place: the community.

As long as people are civilized and stop with the ad hominem attacks, it should be all good.
 

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If I want to discuss politics with this community, because of the people I share an interest with, then that's great to be able to do so, right?
The politics section is hardly a community though. Just people screaming their opinions at each other, thinking if they can make more posts and yell louder they will "win". It's the Jekyll to the rest of the site's Hyde.
 
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Don't ban political topics and discussion. Ban deliberate propaganda, trolling, and be attentive to persistent unauthentic behaviour.
That means someone has to spend hours a day reading every thread and post that gets made there, and pass careful judgement on them - not really possible.
 

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Quality control for sure. What's amusing is that me and several other users have gotten away with shitposting in some of the political threads.

Moderating the political section is an incredible task, locking a thread will result in the staff being called nazi's.
Removing posts has the same effect.

But please do report offending posts, some threads have so many quotes and broken up replies that it's easy to miss things.
 

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We've had this discssion here before. Well, I set the politics section to hidden as soon as I knew how to do it. Peace of mind. ;-)

Sometimes when I log out on the front page I'm suprised to see what kind of thread titles I missed.
But I know better than clicking on them.

I'm no better than other people, talking about politics makes me angry and/or depri, so I ignore that stuff.
 
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This is a site about hacking video game consoles, not politics

I have never got that line of logic or understood why one should preclude the other. Moreover such discussions have been here... I don't know if I can say the start as I have not plumbed the forums that much but for more than a decade and things are doing just fine. If you don't want to engage then surely it is like the football (soccer if you prefer) threads -- I can't stand the game, not playing it, not watching it, not playing computer games of it, not watching computer games of it, not discussing any aspect of the previous... and never have, indeed if there is such a thing as activity induced narcolepsy then I probably have it for football) and have no clue how people do it. To that end I just don't and skip past such things.

But even without that is the stance on hacking game consoles, and all that comes with it, not a political act after a fashion? In doing so you are typically going up against the vest interests of a lot of political actors, and policies that have stood and been enacted from various governments (at this point there is a decent chance the DMCA is older than many of the newer members or at least from a point they are likely to remember, while it has been somewhat defanged it is still present and enjoys a broad measure of cross party support).


Back on topic, so to speak, then a firm -1 from me. I can't say I find ignoring things the best plan in life but the tools are there if you must. If you think someone is posting drivel then engage with them and show them where their logic might have faltered in getting to that point. Sometimes it goes to fundamental differences in approach (in my case I seldom find "but my religious book says" a good reason to do anything, yet others would vehemently disagree so then we are left with having to undo possibly decades of brainwashing and cult mentality, something I and nobody I have ever read of has ever found an easy method for, before we can discuss the actual matter which is somewhat tedious, occasionally you might be able to go a bit abstract -- "these are the rules of the lawmaking process, go from here" but it seldom creates a great resolution where religious dogma is a driving force)
 
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I can't say I find ignoring things the best plan in life but the tools are there if you must. If you think someone is posting drivel then engage with them and show them where their logic might have faltered in getting to that point.

I agree that if you can't ignore somebody's opinion, share your own. Don't just go crying and making a thread/post about how they need to be shut down because they're "trolling my emotions!!!", or just outright flaming them as "stupid, hateful, blah, blah, blah" just because you can't handle anybody going against your "morals?". I know there are some children here, but its a shame when there are grown adults that act so immature that words either hurt their feelings or make their hateful selves come out.

I enjoy coming to this site for the gaming related topics, but I also enjoy sharing the things I see in the news ( just as anybody else is free to do in any section) and my opinions along with debating those that may not agree with me.
Just because everybody may not agree with my views, that does not mean I need to be silenced, be called a troll, or be shown outright hate. I am not bothered by the last two as I don't think of words as an assault, but unfair censorship is just outright not good for anybody. I appreciate the staff here for staying unbiased by not shutting down anybody based on their beliefs (as well as the one sided demands of certain people such as the OP) and allowing people like me to have a place to share our opinions here.
 

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I like hearing other people's opinions even if they differ from my own. If I disagree with what they're saying I can either challenge them to an Internet fight or ignore it and do something productive with my time instead.

As others have suggested, though, it might be a good idea to remove it from the recent content feed just to keep the focus on gaming-related stuff. If anyone wants to talk politics they can still go to the sub-forum.
 

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This place used to be way less politically rabid when it was still an open piracy forum, ironically.
Biggest threads were the newest GBA antipiracy methods and evading them with patches.
Any time politics worms its way into a non-political website, it becomes total dogshit and I'd be lying if I said I didn't* lurk here a lot less lately with all the politics. Too much effort to hide and ignore stuff when you can just as easily close your browser and play a video game.
 
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