Hardware No HDMI output when docked, okay as a handheld

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hi @WadsRUs i have the same problem

I have two 2017 switch models. (no cfw of any sort)

One comes with all its accessories including the dock and is on 3.0.1. It works and output video through dock fine

The other switch is on 3.0.0 and consists of the tablet and joycon only. But the issue is that it does not output video through the same dock.

I have tried to reintialize it but it still does not output video.

the dock works fine. the charger works fine as well, hdmi cable works fine (all original nintendo)

i used a magnifying glass and found some pins bent and straightened them out (the rapid blinking green light of the dock has been now corrected)

Usb c works double sided in case of charging (in case one side goes wrong). Is it same with video output???

i also noticed that the usb c port on the normal switch has no holes inside both the parallel walls of usb c port unlike the damaged one.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance

I had one switch before port was very messed up and after port replacement switch wouldn't boot at all.... after video chip replacement it started to work perfectly fine. Switch has exactly the same problem as PS4: Panasonic filters and chips are terrible to any sorts of shorts at the port... you need to check filters first and replace shorted or those that aren't have continuity if that will not help... probably you need to replace Video Chip...

Also you can try to flip docking station motherboard or use SFANS Adapter, i have seen information in internet from the people with same problems they were able to run docking mode from other side of the port.
 
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Now all my USB ports are dead! fck Nintendo and their broken dock and console...
 

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this video is from youtube with a similar problem



and thats the strange thing. why does the switch remove options for 720p and 1080p software wise if the damage has happened to the hardware
 

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I think my story can help some one.

2 days ago i got totally dead switch with 0.13 Amps on a charge.
I checked M92T36 and P13USB were shorted and one line of the HDMI coil wasn't reading thru.
Replaced all of them, system boots up and worked fine but doesn't worked with a Dock(just green light on the dock).
Next i checked USB-C port with a microscope and found that port had missing pads, replaced the port... still no signal...

I have 6 donor boards with different revisions and i noticed that on my HAC-CPU-10 board i didn't have some resistor and capacitor from the factory, decided to take a gamble place them and everything is works perfectly fine now... May be from the factory they used custom version of P13 chip that had custom lines inside.

Check image what elements you need to check.
 

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I think my story can help some one.

2 days ago i got totally dead switch with 0.13 Amps on a charge.
I checked M92T36 and P13USB were shorted and one line of the HDMI coil wasn't reading thru.
Replaced all of them, system boots up and worked fine but doesn't worked with a Dock(just green light on the dock).
Next i checked USB-C port with a microscope and found that port had missing pads, replaced the port... still no signal...

I have 6 donor boards with different revisions and i noticed that on my HAC-CPU-10 board i didn't have some resistor and capacitor from the factory, decided to take a gamble place them and everything is works perfectly fine now... May be from the factory they used custom version of P13 chip that had custom lines inside.

Check image what elements you need to check.

Thanks Agilato, ill be sure to check my switch for the resistors and capacitors at those locations.

What i also dont understand is why the switch i have doesnt dock AND does is not detected by the computer when plugged in (but charges). Is data transfer handled by the P13USB chip as well?
 

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PI3USB and all of the little caps and the Panasonic chokes would be my guess to star with when there is mo docked images

HOWEVER... I've has a couple of switches where replacing M92T36 makes video work again.. since the m92 chip negotiates power delivery it could be that even though the SOC gets the matrix connection there is no enough power on the video rail to derivate to the USB port...

You could give it a go if not tried yet
 

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Thanks Agilato, ill be sure to check my switch for the resistors and capacitors at those locations.

What i also dont understand is why the switch i have doesnt dock AND does is not detected by the computer when plugged in (but charges). Is data transfer handled by the P13USB chip as well?

There is a-lot happening, problem is that we don't have schematics... we can just guess...
 
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There is a-lot happening, problem is that we don't have schematics... we can just guess...
Im thinking just try to "build" a OpenBoardView schematic myself.. I have a couple of donor boards that have all the chips now been taken so yesterday I was looking at the board and thinking hmmm if I get the fibreglass pen out and start scratching I may get to see the layers!! ahahahaha

such a shame we have to work like this :(
 

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Same issue here... Console had bad charge port, replaced it with a new one. Console charges and is recognized by computer, no display when docked. Green light comes on on the dock. So, I replaced every "typical" chip on the board with all known good ones, no change....

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Same issue here... Console had bad charge port, replaced it with a new one. Console charges and is recognized by computer, no display when docked. Green light comes on on the dock. So, I replaced every "typical" chip on the board with all known good ones, no change....

Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk

Check HDMI chokes and resistors near p13usb chip, HDMI chokes get bad very easy same problem we have on PS4

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Im thinking just try to "build" a OpenBoardView schematic myself.. I have a couple of donor boards that have all the chips now been taken so yesterday I was looking at the board and thinking hmmm if I get the fibreglass pen out and start scratching I may get to see the layers!! ahahahaha

such a shame we have to work like this :(

I had one switch with no Joy-Con connection... i repaired 6 internal traces spent 4 long nights testing and jumping around with a tester... didn't worked...
 
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Check HDMI chokes and resistors near p13usb chip, HDMI chokes get bad very easy same problem we have on PS4

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I had one switch with no Joy-Con connection... i repaired 6 internal traces spent 4 long nights testing and jumping around with a tester... didn't worked...
oh man.. thats a baller :(

these consoles have a mind of its own! lol
 

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I think my story can help some one.

2 days ago i got totally dead switch with 0.13 Amps on a charge.
I checked M92T36 and P13USB were shorted and one line of the HDMI coil wasn't reading thru.
Replaced all of them, system boots up and worked fine but doesn't worked with a Dock(just green light on the dock).
Next i checked USB-C port with a microscope and found that port had missing pads, replaced the port... still no signal...

I have 6 donor boards with different revisions and i noticed that on my HAC-CPU-10 board i didn't have some resistor and capacitor from the factory, decided to take a gamble place them and everything is works perfectly fine now... May be from the factory they used custom version of P13 chip that had custom lines inside.

Check image what elements you need to check.

Again apologies in reviving an old post.

Agilato, the resistor and capacitor that you have marked in red in the images (particularly the ones right under the PI3USB chip), did they all have continuity to ground on one side when you tested them? Two of the resistors or caps that you circled underneath the PI3USB chip on mine show no continuity to ground on either side.

As for abit of an update, i've tested all the filters below PI3USB on my switch and it all looks like all filters are okay.

Thanks again for any help.
 

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