If all Assange cared about was how much attention a story gets, that makes Wikileaks itself no better than Fox, CNN, or clickbait sites. The fourth estate has been failing us for a while now, and it's just unfortunate to see supposedly "independent" outlets follow down that same path.
well now you are just a hypocrite.
Exposing disgusting corruption from the Clintons is taking a side? Just how tribal are you?
One thing the media is, is that it’s hungry to get as much dirt on Trump. If the media didn’t pick up those leaks then the information was so insignificant that they couldn’t get any juicy stuff from it. Either that or the information was already published which is why they didn’t pick it up.
I dont think you understand it, Trump = ratings and they can get people to talk about him all day. Very little cost to get people to just fight with each other about Trumps tweets, or aoc's tweets... they dont even know which countries are being bombed.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-47891737
He was kicked out of the Ecuadorian embassy and was forcibly removed by police officers and arrested. He is heard shouting "the UK must resist the trump administration"
The US has requested him to be extradited to the US to face charges https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/11/world/europe/julian-assange-wikileaks-ecuador-embassy.html
He is also facing charges in other countries for other crimes.
He has been already been found guilty with bail breaching in the London.
current timeline
https://www.apnews.com/328522adb35b4445a3fb875d63fb0870
Ignoring blatant corruption in a foreign government to instead focus on exposing personal e-mails mostly related to planning a wedding is taking a side, yes. Ultimately it's a moot point because
That is so wrong I dont even know where to begin, you might want to do a little research. Only thing accurate is that Hillary isnt in jail, the Clintons are much too integrated into the government to go to jail. Even Trump wont be going to jail, even if anything they accuse him of sticks. The democrats even had bots from a third arty that they claimed were Russians, not that the gop is any better or putin is much different than the Americans... only thing we can do is shine light on evil until its exposed enough to go away. You dont go pick the evil you hate less, you expose it all.
wow, people really are super tribal. When people say things like this its pretty obvious you cant change their mind, im going to watch stranger things and smoke a joint. If im going to waste my time it may as well be doing something enjoyable lol.
That’s what got him elected. He’s knows that they grasp on to anything even make a story about him getting two scoops of Ice Cream. He knows how to play the media to get free coverage.
If that information is wrong, you'll want to take it up with the Ecuadorian government and the Spanish security firm they hired which concluded that Assange clearly has ties to Russian intelligence.
Even though the illegal hush money payments have already been proven beyond a doubt, I fear you're correct. And if we don't charge Trump for his blatant criminal activity, the next guy looking to use the presidency for blanket immunity is going to be so much worse. Far smarter and far more subtle, but worse.
If you're going to call me a hypocrite from something I posted three months ago, could you at least explain how?
No, that's not the argument I'm making. I'm only arguing that Assange failed to live up to his mission statement for Wikileaks, thus making himself and the outlet obsolete in the process.
I said "blatant corruption in a foreign government," specifically referring to leaks on the Russian government and Putin. These things have not been ignored by the media at large, only by Assange in order to keep himself out of danger.
Wikileaks never would have built any rapport with the general public if Assange had been transparent about his ties to state-sanctioned Russian intelligence activities. It's completely counter-intuitive to what their supposed goals were.
On that we agree, in the end he amounted to little more than a useful idiot. Putin clearly held all the power in the relationship.
Wrong, by siding with one particular government and deciding to withhold any leaks on that government. IDGAF that he published Hillary leaks, I'm only interested in the source of those leaks and how that source compromised Assange.
I guess that's not surprising in the grand scheme of things, considering we were at the height of election season and the Russian government wasn't one of the candidates. I'm sure the attention on the Hillary leaks helped to keep it buried, too.
Chelsea Manning was an individual whistleblower of the sort that we were lead to believe Wikileaks partnered with exclusively. I don't know how you expect the GRU would have been punished, what with them being a large clandestine organization with the backing of the Russian government. But yeah, of course Assange wouldn't have wanted to trash his own image by revealing that connection.
The fact that you admit he did this for personal reasons rather than to further Wikileak's mission is compromising enough. But in addition to that, when the source is a powerful one, it always demands quid pro quo. In this case, burying any leaks relevant to the Russian government.
It wouldn't have necessarily gotten any more attention on Wikileaks, but releasing it would've shown a commitment to their own mission. That's also not the only set of leaks they refused to publish relevant to the Russian government/Putin, I already posted the Tweet where Assange claims the release of the Panama papers was funded by George Soros (total horseshit).
Wikileaks has become irrelevant regardless, and Assange is probably going to jail for life. My concern is having a truly neutral source for ALL leaks and whistleblower information to be published, not selectively so based on the website owner's biases. Also, who knows how many other sources Assange decided to sell out to the Russian government. Maybe that information will be made public with time.
It doesn't invalidate the leaks, but it also doesn't make them any less innocuous. IMO Comey's announcement less than ten days from the election that Hillary was still under investigation did far more damage to her chances of winning.
It's the Russian government dude, they basically operate like any mobsters. Meaning nothing you take from them is free. Of course, it might've only been implied that any leaks Assange published about them would mean he drinks polonium tea, but he clearly received the message regardless.
They did publish it, but only after several other outlets had, and it doesn't change the fact that Assange was parroting Putin's dismissals for a reason.
The fuck are you talking about? I'd love to have multiple neutral hosts of leaked info/whistleblower info, but as it stands now, we don't even have one. And people largely ignore the big bombshells like the Panama papers anyway. Just too much complacency in the world today.
