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Fire Emblem: Three Houses will feature same-sex romance options for certain characters

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The latest Fire Emblem game is almost here, as fans only need to wait more two weeks until the game's launch, on July 26th. Spoilers and information are beginning to spread, as people get their hands on review copies or find retailers that break street date. Series fans will know that Supports are a major part of previous Fire Emblem games, with more modern entries fully allowing you to play matchmaker with every member of your army. This new Fire Emblem title will have that same feature, though with a rather significant addition; Nintendo has confirmed that Fire Emblem: Three Houses will allow your player character to romance certain other party members, particularly of the same sex. This isn't the first time that the series has allowed for same-sex romance options--Fire Emblem: Fates gave players two party members that you could romance, regardless of your player character's gender. Not every unit will be compatible, but an initial list of some of those specific characters can be found in the source link, below.

Considering the reception and popularity of a well-known Fire Emblem: Fates romhack, hosted on this very site, this choice could be a very welcome and long-awaited one.

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So apparently 3 gay and 5 lesbian options available. At least it's way more than on Fates where they only had 1 of each. I wonder if someone will mod it crazily like the one on Fates.
 
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I know nothing about this release since I don't have a switch and therefore haven't been following it.

All I can say is that if the children mechanic exists in this game, and they allow it between the same sex couples, I want a fucking explanation. Whether it be a cop-out alternate realities with different actual genders a la Awakening, or magical genitalia, mana babies formed by the convergence of magic by two people, or wahtever, I don't care. I just want a damn explanation. Otherwise the children shouldn't exist because it's stupid with no justification.
 

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As a lesbian, this is much appreciated... as long as it's not hamfisted onto others and all up in our faces. I am hopeful I'll have a better option than... Rhajat, TBH.

I just hope the kids don't come back. I liked the kids in Awakening, and I liked them in Fates, too, but the Fates kids had NO reason at all to be in the game.
 

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Heh gay



But also it makes no sense to have romance in this game since there arent going to any children units in it. So I dont know they arent just using the support system from other older FE games
 
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So apparently 3 gay and 5 lesbian options available. At least it's way more than on Fates where they only had 1 of each. I wonder if someone will mod it crazily like the one on Fates.
At least it's better than Fire Emblem Fates where Rhajat and Niles were the only options, but to be honest, it would be better if every unit in this game was essentially bisexual (Like in Stardew Valley, Sims etc) so you could romance anyone regardless of your character's gender.
It would be a shame if your favorite character wasn't romanceable because of your character's gender.
 
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I loved Leon in Echoes and I'm still mad he got rejected by that big guy. So.. bring more cheeky gay guys please. And lesbians as well. We are all equal!
 

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Yuri is justice. Prove me wrong. Hint: you can't.

I’m happy that they included it again. From what the report says it’s only one male that can be wooed will playing as a male while the female protagonist have like 5 potential females that can be wooed. I hope that isn’t true since it’s kinda unfair but oh well. If anything I’m pretty sure somebody will mod more relationships into the game again.

Let's be completely honest here; Fire Emblem is targeted at a mostly male demographic. It makes sense for there to be more female options, because that'll sell it better because of people like me (who like playing as a female MC.) The main target group for MxM is going to be gay guys and fujoshis (you know - the ones who read Yaoi manga), which is probably a far smaller number than who would like GxG content. So...priorities, I'd guess.

I kinda like how only certain characters can be dated, feels more real than when games do the "everyone's bisexual cast".

At least it's better than Fire Emblem Fates where Rhajat and Niles were the only options, but to be honest, it would be better if every unit in this game was essentially bisexual (Like in Stardew Valley, Sims etc) so you could romance anyone regardless of your character's gender.
It would be a shame if your favorite character wasn't romanceable because of your character's gender.

There's a valid argument to be made either way. On one hand, every character being romance-able is a good ideal. On the other, it often ends up being a copy-paste from the opposite gender MC rather than feeling correctly characterized for their interactions specifically and often feels out of place if incorrectly done given the character's personality. Like, getting gay with the manly man that all the chicks want just makes zero sense and should logically be excluded from same-sex romance options for the same reason that it wouldn't work IRL.
 

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Now I have a reason to like Fire Emblem even less. Being a strong heterosexual myself, I don't think it's right to allow this in any game. This is the "let's be all inclusive" bull- eh, well... you know. Fortunately, even though Nintendo allows this (and it's not really that surprising; any entertainment company as large as Nintendo is would eventually allow so-called "diversity" in their games if the demand was strong enough), they tailor the games based off of the people who would most likely play them. In Polygon's article about Nintendo allowing the developers to include same-sex relationships in FE: Fates, Nintendo made sure to put strong restrictions on Tomodachi Life, where it was a hetero-only game - the Miis have children! No same-sex couple could EVER do that!

So, that noted, let's consider some other things about same-sex/mature content and Nintendo:
  • Nintendo in general, although attempting to be politically correct with some things (i.e. "Holiday Sale" instead of "Christmas Sale"), tends to develop games with hetero relationships. Fire Emblem is published, but not developed, by Nintendo.
  • Nintendo focuses on developing games that are generally clean and approved by the majority of the public. Super Mario counts, and even Legend of Zelda, with some of its edgier games like Twilight Princess, are cleaner than say Bayonetta, a game published by Nintendo but developed by PlatinumGames.
  • Often, people mistake the publisher of a game as the developer, when it is not always so. Nintendo did not develop Pokemon. Nintendo did not develop Fire Emblem. Nintendo did not develop Bayonetta. Now, as with any publisher, Nintendo will advertise and sell such games from their own site, and they do have to approve which games they want to publish, but Nintendo in general is not a mature company.

Do I like the games that Nintendo publishes? Not all of them. SEGA, too, has published mature titles that I would never play. However, just because I don't like what a company is promoting does not mean that they will stop simply because I, the single consumer, say so. If enough people voted against FE having same-sex characters, then maybe it would be changed. However, Nintendo refusing to publish the title wouldn't stop it; the developers would try to distribute it under another publisher.

Therefore, best bet for us guys who don't break the male-female relationship rule, is to go and save a princess who is always in another castle. :P
 
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There's a valid argument to be made either way. On one hand, every character being romance-able is a good ideal. On the other, it often ends up being a copy-paste from the opposite gender MC rather than feeling correctly characterized for their interactions specifically and often feels out of place if incorrectly done given the character's personality. Like, getting gay with the manly man that all the chicks want just makes zero sense and should logically be excluded from same-sex romance options for the same reason that it wouldn't work IRL.
Though a counter argument could also be made, seeing as manly gay men do exist (they're not as common as average or overly flamboyant ones, imo) and some women still want them, despite knowing they can never have them. The same goes for men who want to hook up with lesbians. In both cases, there are people who either jokingly or (mostly) seriously make disgusting comments about how they'll "straighten out" X/Y person and how they haven't met a real man/woman before... (It's pretty ridiculous and disgusting to hear that sort of thing.)

But yes, I do agree with you that multi-romance-able aren't usually well done and there's definitely room for improvement there. Perhaps we'll see some decent/unique writing for that sort of thing someday.

Unfortunately, video games and media in general tend to go for pretty boys because that's what sells; I'm sure this will be the case again with the same-sex romance options in this game. I'd be surprised if they actually added in someone I'd be interested in.
 

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I've never really been one for romancing/supports in FE, but this is a nice touch for those that are interested and want to be properly immersed.

Inb4 "shoving politics down our throats hur dur"

I'm someone who's against "forced" politics.
Bit if it's an option (ie. not forced path), O don't have any issue's with it.
In return, don't butcher the translation...
 

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Though a counter argument could also be made, seeing as manly gay men do exist (they're not as common as average or overly flamboyant ones, imo) and some women still want them, despite knowing they can never have them. The same goes for men who want to hook up with lesbians. In both cases, there are people who either jokingly or (mostly) seriously make disgusting comments about how they'll "straighten out" X/Y person and how they haven't met a real man/woman before... (It's pretty ridiculous and disgusting to hear that sort of thing.)

I probably should have been more specific, since I was intending to refer to a heterosexual manly man with that post, but reading it through I realize that I completely failed to construct it as such, heh.

And yes, as far as I'm concerned those morons are in the same category as those who think autism spectrum disorders can be cured by feeding kids mercury, vaccines are evil and that the Earth is flat. In one word, foolish. In another, harmful.

To be frank though, I just don't get what state of mind these people have to be in. It's like flipping out on a cat person for not being a dog person, and saying that legally people shouldn't be allowed to be cat people and must be dog people. You know? It's dumb.

Granted, I'm incapable of understanding any possible inner turmoil these people go though, because while I'm male and heterosexual (well, at least ~98%ish), I have no qualms with reading fiction about same-sex couples (and enjoy it, actually.) I also play as a female character whenever given the option in games - and I never really self-insert. I observe.

But yes, I do agree with you that multi-romance-able aren't usually well done and there's definitely room for improvement there. Perhaps we'll see some decent/unique writing for that sort of thing someday.

I'm hoping that since they limited the options in this fire emblem game, perhaps the character interactions will be better composed. I suppose we'll see, yeah? There definitely could stand to be some improvement in games on this, though.

I'm someone who's against "forced" politics.
Bit if it's an option (ie. not forced path), O don't have any issue's with it.

Homosexuality is not political. Giraffes do it. Swans do it. Dolphins do it. Gorillas do it. I can go on. There's scientific evidence that this exists outside of humans, and it's a google search away. Granted, I agree that since this is a game targeted at everyone that it should be optional content.

In return, don't butcher the translation...

Aah. That's asking a lot, you know. Either way, I'm sure the fans will fix it if they screw up. Fire Emblem fans are a dedicated bunch.
 

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Now I have a reason to like Fire Emblem even less. Being a strong heterosexual myself, I don't think it's right to allow this in any game. This is the "let's be all inclusive" bull- eh, well... you know. Fortunately, even though Nintendo allows this (and it's not really that surprising; any entertainment company as large as Nintendo is would eventually allow so-called "diversity" in their games if the demand was strong enough), they tailor the games based off of the people who would most likely play them. In Polygon's article about Nintendo allowing the developers to include same-sex relationships in FE: Fates, Nintendo made sure to put strong restrictions on Tomodachi Life, where it was a hetero-only game - the Miis have children! No same-sex couple could EVER do that!

So, that noted, let's consider some other things about same-sex/mature content and Nintendo:
  • Nintendo in general, although attempting to be politically correct with some things (i.e. "Holiday Sale" instead of "Christmas Sale"), tends to develop games with hetero relationships. Fire Emblem is published, but not developed, by Nintendo.
  • Nintendo focuses on developing games that are generally clean and approved by the majority of the public. Super Mario counts, and even Legend of Zelda, with some of its edgier games like Twilight Princess, are cleaner than say Bayonetta, a game published by Nintendo but developed by PlatinumGames.
  • Often, people mistake the publisher of a game as the developer, when it is not always so. Nintendo did not develop Pokemon. Nintendo did not develop Fire Emblem. Nintendo did not develop Bayonetta. Now, as with any publisher, Nintendo will advertise and sell such games from their own site, and they do have to approve which games they want to publish, but Nintendo in general is not a mature company.

Do I like the games that Nintendo publishes? Not all of them. SEGA, too, has published mature titles that I would never play. However, just because I don't like what a company is promoting does not mean that they will stop simply because I, the single consumer, say so. If enough people voted against FE having same-sex characters, then maybe it would be changed. However, Nintendo refusing to publish the title wouldn't stop it; the developers would try to distribute it under another publisher.

Therefore, best bet for us guys who don't break the male-female relationship rule, is to go and save a princess who is always in another castle. :P
It's kinda fun to see a person so intimidated by the prospect of Nintendo games becoming gay that they have to write an elaborate article on why they shouldn't be afraid of Nintendo games becoming gay x)
 

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It's a good step, but to be honest I won't really be satisfied until the whole limited character pool thing is gone.

What if I don't like any of the characters I can romance? That would really suck. The whole marriage system being so limited if you want a same-sex relationship is somewhat of a barrier to the series for me.
 

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I don't have an issue with it as long as it's optional, which is what I'd expect from any romance option in an RPG-kinda-game anyway, straight or gay. In fact, it makes the whole game a little more bit more realistic and gives the player more freedom, which is nice.

It's a good step, but to be honest I won't really be satisfied until the whole limited character pool thing is gone.

What if I don't like any of the characters I can romance? That would really suck. The whole marriage system being so limited if you want a same-sex relationship is somewhat of a barrier to the series for me.
You do know that marriage is an optional activity in FE and not the main goal, right? Even in real life sometimes you just can't find "the one". :P
 

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Now I have a reason to like Fire Emblem even less. Being a strong heterosexual myself, I don't think it's right to allow this in any game. This is the "let's be all inclusive" bull- eh, well... you know. Fortunately, even though Nintendo allows this (and it's not really that surprising; any entertainment company as large as Nintendo is would eventually allow so-called "diversity" in their games if the demand was strong enough), they tailor the games based off of the people who would most likely play them. In Polygon's article about Nintendo allowing the developers to include same-sex relationships in FE: Fates, Nintendo made sure to put strong restrictions on Tomodachi Life, where it was a hetero-only game - the Miis have children! No same-sex couple could EVER do that!

So, that noted, let's consider some other things about same-sex/mature content and Nintendo:
  • Nintendo in general, although attempting to be politically correct with some things (i.e. "Holiday Sale" instead of "Christmas Sale"), tends to develop games with hetero relationships. Fire Emblem is published, but not developed, by Nintendo.
  • Nintendo focuses on developing games that are generally clean and approved by the majority of the public. Super Mario counts, and even Legend of Zelda, with some of its edgier games like Twilight Princess, are cleaner than say Bayonetta, a game published by Nintendo but developed by PlatinumGames.
  • Often, people mistake the publisher of a game as the developer, when it is not always so. Nintendo did not develop Pokemon. Nintendo did not develop Fire Emblem. Nintendo did not develop Bayonetta. Now, as with any publisher, Nintendo will advertise and sell such games from their own site, and they do have to approve which games they want to publish, but Nintendo in general is not a mature company.

Do I like the games that Nintendo publishes? Not all of them. SEGA, too, has published mature titles that I would never play. However, just because I don't like what a company is promoting does not mean that they will stop simply because I, the single consumer, say so. If enough people voted against FE having same-sex characters, then maybe it would be changed. However, Nintendo refusing to publish the title wouldn't stop it; the developers would try to distribute it under another publisher.

Therefore, best bet for us guys who don't break the male-female relationship rule, is to go and save a princess who is always in another castle. :P
Let me level with you friend, Fire Emblem doesn't exist, so you don't need to have a reason to like it any less. It's all smoke and mirrors Nintendo pulls out, but think about it, have you ever SEEN a Fire Emblem? I know I haven't. Have you ever seen a Fire Emblem fan? Do such people even exist? I think not. Sure, you might see that one person online saying "oh I love Fire Emblem! Fire Emblem 12 is the best one out there!" but c'mon, they're just saying it for attention. It's bizarre to me people still buy into this.

Honestly? Just move on. Don't get sucked in by this propaganda. Don't become a fake fan of this fake series.
its not like the fandom will want you anyway with such a shitty attitude towards such an insignificant aspect of the game
 
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