Hacking [4.1.0 IPatched] Newcomer to Switch Hacking - Questions about Caffeine and others

[Francesca]

emuMMC is available with Atmosphere, and it's highly recommended if you meet one or both of these conditions:

1. You have a patched system, and your sysNAND is on 4.1.0. You will create an offline emuNAND that you can update to 8.1.0 with ChoiDujourNX to use all of your homebrew and backups with.
2. You plan on using online play. You need another emuNAND (or sysNAND, if a person's Switch is unpatched) that is updated and untouched by hacks.

If you use an offline emuNAND for hackery and a clean emuNAND for online play, you should be fine. On the dirty emuNAND for hackery, you can also install 90DNS and/or Incognito to reduce the risk of a ban if it were to accidentally connect to the internet.

Ah, so I'll get it together when I install (?) Atmosphere, gotcha. Like I said in the topic title, it's a patched 4.1.0 console so it looks like it's a necessity in my case. I'm lucky enough that I'm no longer locked out of hacking due to having a patched console I guess. Though I also haven't seen anyone claim they managed to get everything working successfully online just yet? Hope it does work the way it's been promised.

So if I want to go online AND play backups on a patched console, I need two emunands, gotcha. Are they both installed simultaneously, or do I back them up elsewhere (say, on my HDD) and switch whenever I need the other one? Confused how that works.

I'm in the same boat, so chipping in with my experience and keen to hear others.

New iPatched 4.1.0 unit which has now been warmbooted via Caffeine/Hekate. Backed up Nand/Boot sectors/keys etc.

I'm now stuck trying to get EmuMMC to boot anything. Essentially I want to keep my sysnand totally clean and literally not touch it unless I have to. Then with EmuMMC or similar, upgrade to the latest firmware etc.

Unfortunately Atmosphere appears to have a bug with the version shipped with SDSetup, which looks to have been fixed yesterday, so hoping to check that out tonight.

Good to see another person doing the same thing I've been doing, though I still need to take the first step - going to buy the Micro SD card (32 GB was the suggested minimum iirc) that is needed for the installation tomorrow morning first, and then try to get as much accomplished as possible.

Curious how it goes for you, seeing how you're ahead of me, and I already begin to worry about things working out when you mention the problem with Atmosphere. SDSetup is something you get while following the firmware guide I linked, correct? Do they really update it regularly?

Seeing how fresh the homebrew setup for patched consoles is, I imagine a lot of things are still undiscovered, or people aren't aware of them yet. Hope we pull through!

 

[Yakhstein]

If i running emummc it takes a long time to start 5-10 min and lays and hangs. Where is the problem?

 

[masagrator]

If i running emummc it takes a long time to start 5-10 min and lays and hangs. Where is the problem?

1. Low quality sdcard, fake sdcard or old/broken sdcard
2. Errors in backuped rawnand

 

[Lacius]

Ah, so I'll get it together when I install (?) Atmosphere, gotcha. Like I said in the topic title, it's a patched 4.1.0 console so it looks like it's a necessity in my case. I'm lucky enough that I'm no longer locked out of hacking due to having a patched console I guess. Though I also haven't seen anyone claim they managed to get everything working successfully online just yet? Hope it does work the way it's been promised.

So if I want to go online AND play backups on a patched console, I need two emunands, gotcha. Are they both installed simultaneously, or do I back them up elsewhere (say, on my HDD) and switch whenever I need the other one? Confused how that works.

You can have both of your emuNANDs installed to one SD card at the same time, you can have one per SD card, etc. It's up to you.

Good to see another person doing the same thing I've been doing, though I still need to take the first step - going to buy the Micro SD card (32 GB was the suggested minimum iirc) that is needed for the installation tomorrow morning first, and then try to get as much accomplished as possible.

You're going to want a much bigger SD card if you're going to be using 1-2 emuNAND(s).

Curious how it goes for you, seeing how you're ahead of me, and I already begin to worry about things working out when you mention the problem with Atmosphere. SDSetup is something you get while following the firmware guide I linked, correct? Do they really update it regularly?

Atmosphere is updated very regularly. You will be required to update it each time Nintendo releases a new system update for the Switch.

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If i running emummc it takes a long time to start 5-10 min and lays and hangs. Where is the problem?

1. Low quality sdcard, fake sdcard or old/broken sdcard
2. Errors in backuped rawnand

Is the emuMMC installed as a separate partition or a file?

 

[Yakhstein]

You can have both of your emuNANDs installed to one SD card at the same time, you can have one per SD card, etc. It's up to you.


You're going to want a much bigger SD card if you're going to be using 1-2 emuNAND(s).


Atmosphere is updated very regularly. You will be required to update it each time Nintendo releases a new system update for the Switch.

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Is the emuMMC installed as a separate partition or a file?

file?
and is not Fake. Samsung EVO WELCT 128gb

 

[gRoberts84]

@Lacius - any chance on a little advice on how to update my SDSetup card to use the 6f85b11 version of Atmosphere 0.92?

I had downloaded the latest version and overwrote any files on my SD card, but instead of going to Hetake, it was going straight to CFW.

I want to run this all in EmuMMC and I'm paranoid that what it's doing now is not the case.

 

[Lacius]

file?
and is not Fake. Samsung EVO WELCT 128gb

Using a separate partition is recommended. The file method is slower.

 

[Francesca]

You're going to want a much bigger SD card if you're going to be using 1-2 emuNAND(s).

NS's support website says the following: 'In order to use a microSDXC card on the Nintendo Switch console, a system update is required'. SDXC cards are the ones with 64 GB and higher. So how do I perform the set-up without performing a system update first?

 

[masagrator]

@Francesca this is wrong. You can't use this as-is. You need to reformat it on PC to fat32 as exfat is not supported by default. Then it will work. You can use f.e. guiformat

 

[Francesca]

@Francesca this is wrong. You can't use this as-is. You need to reformat it on PC to fat32 as exfat is not supported by default. Then it will work. You can use f.e. guiformat

I've already read about exfat being a very questionable choice, so I do plan to reformat. However, if I buy, say, a 128 GB card, will it be "too big" for me to back up my NAND and stuff? Will I have to start with a smaller micro sd (16 GB or w/e) and then switch to the one I want for gaming?

 

[Zuzuooloo]

I've already read about exfat being a very questionable choice, so I do plan to reformat. However, if I buy, say, a 128 GB card, will it be "too big" for me to back up my NAND and stuff? Will I have to start with a smaller micro sd (16 GB or w/e) and then switch to the one I want for gaming?

you can format your sd card to fat32 it will be limit file sizes to 4gb but you can get around it, so size of the card doesn't matter. Also it won't be too big for your nand backup.

I have a 256 microsd card in mine on fat32.

 

[Francesca]

you can format your sd card to fat32 it will be limit file sizes to 4gb but you can get around it, so size of the card doesn't matter. Also it won't be too big for your nand backup.

I have a 256 microsd card in mine on fat32.

Some of the .nsp backups are 10-15 GB; as single files, are they transferable at all?

What about that message from the official Switch support page about having to update the system in order to use a larger SD card? Is it incorrect? Cause I'm not supposed to go online to do that.

 

[Lacius]

Some of the .nsp backups are 10-15 GB; as single files, are they transferable at all?

What about that message from the official Switch support page about having to update the system in order to use a larger SD card? Is it incorrect? Cause I'm not supposed to go online to do that.

You can format any large capacity SD card as FAT32, and you can install games over USB.

If you want to use an exFAT formatted SD card, you can install the exFAT update on your Switch using ChoiDujourNX.

 

[Francesca]

and you can install games over USB.

Meaning:
1) connect Switch to PC's USB port
2) turn on Switch
3) install NSP backups straight from PC's HDDs
?

 

[Lacius]

Meaning:
1) connect Switch to PC's USB port
2) turn on Switch
3) install NSP backups straight from PC's HDDs
?

That is correct. I recommend using nut server and the DZ version of Tinfoil for this.

 

[Darkrai27]

You can format any large capacity SD card as FAT32, and you can install games over USB.

If you want to use an exFAT formatted SD card, you can install the exFAT update on your Switch using ChoiDujourNX.

I'm in the same situation, I want to restore my clean 4.1.0 backup but I will lose the exFat support, what should I do, I would like to continue using exFAT in my emuMMC to install NSP's larger than 4GB

 

[Lacius]

I'm in the same situation, I want to restore my clean 4.1.0 backup but I will lose the exFat support, what should I do, I would like to continue using exFAT in my emuMMC to install NSP's larger than 4GB

You can install NSP files over 4 GB on FAT32 if you do it over a USB connection.

Alternatively, you could use ChoiDujourNX to install the exFAT update.

 

[Darkrai27]

You can install NSP files over 4 GB on FAT32 if you do it over a USB connection.

Alternatively, you could use ChoiDujourNX to install the exFAT update.

Yeah, but if I use CDNX my NAND will be dirty, I want to keep it clean for if I want to go online in the future

 

[masagrator]

Alternative: use NSP/XCI Splitter
https://github.com/AnalogMan151/splitNSP
https://gbatemp.net/threads/yet-another-xci-cutter-multiplatform-written-in-java.509252/

 

[Lacius]

Yeah, but if I use CDNX my NAND will be dirty, I want to keep it clean for if I want to go online in the future

Then you're being unclear about your goals. Are you restoring your clean 4.1.0 NAND backup to your sysNAND or your emuNAND, and what is the purpose?