CNN Opinion Piece About Being Obese

[MikaDubbz]

If opinion pieces had to be thoroughly vetted and fact-checked, they wouldn't be opinion pieces any more. Besides, you can just as easily get a piece published with a contrary opinion. Ultimately the point I'm trying to get across is that I don't think we need a new thread every time somebody finds an opinion on the internet they disagree with. We should try to stick to subjects that are objectively newsworthy in this subforum.

Not vetted, they just need a better filter for what they publish in that section or not, they clearly have some sort of filter, as not just any opinion piece gets published. They just need to say no to more stories, and if their site isn't as full as it can be, so be it, god forbid these sites don't get those precious clicks and ad revenue. And yes, a contrary piece can get published, but this is a case where any piece not to the contrary simply shouldn't be published at all. Simple as that. If you (the royal you, not you you) think being obese is good or OK, that's great, but keep those thoughts to yourself because you're delusional, and CNN and other news organizations: do better, say no to garbage like this. That's ultimately what my point that I'm trying to get across is.

 

[H1B1Esquire]

do better, say no to garbage like this. That's ultimately what my point that I'm trying to get across is.

They can't.

They literally can't. It's a long story, but.....basically, the "clicks" they get are from......."the new generation"....and they are really hard to work with. It's "easier" to appeal to them and their "needs".

Anyhow, everything will be worked out Soon™.

 

[Xzi]

And yes, a contrary piece can get published, but this is a case where any piece not to the contrary simply shouldn't be published at all.

Why not? Just because you have a different opinion? Even CNN's editor might have a different opinion, but a good editor isn't going to censor someone else for that reason alone.

 

[H1B1Esquire]

Why not?

In so many word(s): money and money.

 

[Xzi]

In so many word(s): money and money.

I don't think opinion pieces are the bread and butter of any news organization. Then again, print news in general isn't doing so hot these days.

 

[MikaDubbz]

Why not? Just because you have a different opinion? Even CNN's editor might have a different opinion, but a good editor isn't going to censor someone else for that reason alone.

Because it's an opinion piece that benefits no one. It helps create and spread the idea that being obese is an alright way to live, should be celebrated, and anyone telling you otherwise should be ignored. Might as well be an opinion piece trying to sell you on the idea to not vaccinate your kids or that the earth is flat. Like I get it, those idiots are out there, but shame on any supposedly reputable news organization that actually even entertains such opinion pieces. And I wouldn't be shocked if the likes of CNN has published opinion pieces on that nonsense as well, but again, this is where better filters should be put in place, that is if these organizations wish to continue to be considered reputable in any way.

 

[H1B1Esquire]

I don't think opinion pieces are the bread and butter of any news organization. Then again, print news in general isn't doing so hot these days.

Agreed--news is in a weird position.

I kind of want to blame AOC for this, but I also want to DFK her after a 110°F shower...I'm so torn.

Seriously, this is.......the world we live in. Everyone has this weird mentality and I'm just trying to figure it all out, day-by-day.

Truthfully, this thread was a good time waster, but if you've ever seen

Spoiler: Relaxer

; same time spent with the same results.

I don't know, but it helps draw some lines--maybe you'll all see what this is about, in a deeper sense, a much deeper sense.

 

[Xzi]

Because it's an opinion piece that benefits no one.

And an opinion piece that says, "get off your fat ass and go for a jog" is somehow beneficial? I think people should be comfortable in their own bodies, and that's going to mean different things for different individuals.

I know one guy with a little bit of influence that would certainly agree with the idea that it's okay to be fat:

 

[cots]

There is no 'agenda.' Again I simply don't see the purpose of this post, it's like you're combing the web just to find things to be offended about. You don't see me posting about every blatantly stupid opinion piece on Fox News, now do you?

Nope, you mainly post about every move Trump makes that offends you. At least I'm presenting a variety of topics.

 

[Xzi]

Nope, you mainly post about every move Trump makes that offends you. At least I'm presenting a variety of topics.

The president breaking the law and violating the constitution is very much within the realm of both politics and current events. Finding excuses to rant about why you hate this group or that group of people, not so much.

 

[cots]

The best news source I've come across is tied between NHK and BBC world--straight to the point, minus the "this is what I think and so should you"-bullshit.

I really enjoy reading BBC, including the "Why you can trust us" page and related material on what they consider proper journalism. CNN or Fox could learn a lesson or two from them if they ever want to consider themselves as a news outlets instead of entertainment companies seeking a profit.

 

[Xzi]

I really enjoy reading BBC, including the "Why you can trust us" page and related material on what they consider proper journalism. CNN or Fox could learn a lesson or two from them if they ever want to consider themselves as a news outlets instead of entertainment companies seeking a profit.

I agree. BBC has opinion pieces too, however. And you're very unlikely to agree with all of them.

http://www.bbc.com/capital/story/20170525-opinion-getting-rich-has-more-to-do-with-luck-than-talent

 

[cots]

The president breaking the law and violating the constitution is very much within the realm of both politics and current events. Finding excuses to rant about why you hate this group or that group of people, not so much.

So, that justifies doing the same thing you accuse me of? If you dislike that I'm posting about things I disagree with maybe the next topic I create will be about something I agree with. I don't see the point in addressing if this topic is valid or not as a moderator already decided on that. It would be okay though, if I were simply bashing Fox and talking crap about our President. Sorry that I don't follow that group of lemmings.

 

[Xzi]

So, that justifies doing the same thing you accuse me of?

I accused you of posting an opinion piece that has nothing to do with current events, politics, or world news. I've not done that here once.

If you dislike that I'm posting about things I disagree with maybe the next topic I create will be about something I agree with.

That's not the issue. I'm all in favor of you posting an actual news article from CNN that you don't like for one reason or another. Opinion pieces, however, are much too close to tabloid-esque garbage for my tastes. You don't have to pluck it just because it's low-hanging fruit. Feel me?

 

[cots]

Because it's an opinion piece that benefits no one. It helps create and spread the idea that being obese is an alright way to live, should be celebrated, and anyone telling you otherwise should be ignored. Might as well be an opinion piece trying to sell you on the idea to not vaccinate your kids or that the earth is flat. Like I get it, those idiots are out there, but shame on any supposedly reputable news organization that actually even entertains such opinion pieces. And I wouldn't be shocked if the likes of CNN has published opinion pieces on that nonsense as well, but again, this is where better filters should be put in place, that is if these organizations wish to continue to be considered reputable in any way.

CNN's reporting quality is pretty much common knowledge to anyone that follows politics. They are slanted to one side and their daily headlines include "What this person said about this person" with half of the article repeating what they've already posted in 100 other "Guess what this person did today" tabloid style posts. I'm not attacking CNN in particular, that's not needed. They do that to themselves. I'm trying to focus on the entire fact that it's suddenly okay to promote acceptance of being obese. I don't take polls, but I'm pretty sure that fat cells don't care who you voted for.

 

[MikaDubbz]

And an opinion piece that says, "get off your fat ass and go for a jog" is somehow beneficial? I think people should be comfortable in their own bodies, and that's going to mean different things for different individuals.

I know one guy with a little bit of influence that would certainly agree with the idea that it's okay to be fat:

Frankly opinion pieces in general about how one should exercise are pointless. This shit should be common knowledge, not debatable opinions. There certainly should be actual news pieces that explain the benefits of healthy living for everyone, what a healthy BMI is, and why everyone should strive for one, and sure, acknowledge activities one can do to maintain the healthy lifestyle, but that too should be pretty common knowledge: eat healthy and exercise regularly. There isn't some secret here that makes being obese a healthy option, this isn't some grey area where we should accept everyone for who they are, this is about living a healthy life that will help you avoid medical problems in the future and live a more fulfilling life. If you're obese and are trying to look for excuses to make that OK to more likely than not bring on medical problems in the future and make for a less fulfilling life, then by all means live that life, but don't you dare try to push that onto other people as if that's something to even be seriously considered for a second. You can ask me to not judge you for being overweight, but I have every reason to judge you for being so if you aren't even trying to combat and are actively trying to further live that life. Might as well be trying to argue the merits of Russian Roulette, these aren't things we should be entertaining in our news outlets.

 

[Xzi]

Frankly opinion pieces in general about how one should exercise are pointless.

You seem to think opinion pieces in general are pointless, and that's fine. Nobody's holding a gun to your head and making you read them. Reading them with the goal of finding something to be outraged about is a particularly pointless exercise in futility, thus the reason I think this thread was unnecessary.

 

[cots]

Frankly opinion pieces in general about how one should exercise are pointless. This shit should be common knowledge, not debatable opinions. There certainly should be actual news pieces that explain the benefits of healthy living for everyone, what a healthy BMI is, and why everyone should strive for one, and sure, acknowledge activities one can do to maintain the healthy lifestyle, but that too should be pretty common knowledge: eat healthy and exercise regularly. There isn't some secret here that makes being obese a healthy option, this isn't some grey area where we should accept everyone for who they are, this is about living a healthy life that will help you avoid medical problems in the future and live a more fulfilling life. If you're obese and are trying to look for excuses to make that OK to more likely than not bring on medical problems in the future and make for a less fulfilling life, then by all means live that life, but don't you dare try to push that onto other people as if that's something to even be seriously considered for a second. You can ask me to not judge you for being overweight, but I have every reason to judge you for being so if you aren't even trying to combat and are actively trying to further live that life. Might as well be trying to argue the merits of Russian Roulette, these aren't things we should be entertaining in our news outlets.

To be fair some people don't get the greatest education so what is considered a healthy diet, what the suggested BMI, etc ... might not have been taught to them, but I agree that the media should be talking about healthy living and about these things instead of promoting the opposite because they consider their audience to be stupid and want to make sure they don't hurt their feelings. I like to think that people in general aren't stupid and some people say I'm dumb for thinking like that, but that only goes to show that sort of thought process is creating a destructive cycle. "People are stupid, don't want to learn and are going to end up obese so we should just adjust the way we entertain them so we can still profit" doesn't fly with me.

 

[MikaDubbz]

You seem to think opinion pieces in general are pointless, and that's fine. Nobody's holding a gun to your head and making you read them. Reading them with the goal of finding something to be outraged about is a particularly pointless exercise in futility, thus the reason I think this thread was unnecessary.

No, you're not getting it. I think opinion pieces on things that are objective facts are a cancer on the news industry and dumbs it all down and makes it all less reputable. An opinion piece on how the Earth is flat, should not be published by any organization attempting to portray themselves as reputable, because its common knowledge that it isn't, it is factually true and accepted that the Earth is a sphere, and the people trying to argue otherwise are clearly idiots that should not be entertained. Let those opinion pieces get pushed to the edge of the internet where awful opinions can go to rot like Buzzfeed or the National Enquirer. If however you want to run an opinion piece on the benefits of Communism, then by all means, please fill up the Opinion sections with pieces like that.

 

[cots]

Reading them with the goal of finding something to be outraged about is a particularly pointless exercise in futility, thus the reason I think this thread was unnecessary.

That's assuming I was scouring the Internet webs in hope to find something to be outraged about. That's not the case.