You may have already heard of a PS4 emulator called Orbital making a fair amount of progress recently but, in the last few days, another one has appeared seemingly out of nowhere and grabbed everyone's attention by being the first publicly available PS4 emulator able to play commercial games. Spine was first unveiled by its developer (spinedev) on the /r/emulation subreddit with a video showing it running Mega Man Legacy Collection flawlessly. It was thought to be fake at first, partly for the limited amount of information surrounding it and also due to the developer's lack of reputation, however, an early build was released shortly after that proved the sceptics wrong.

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Spine takes a different approach from the already mentioned Orbital. The latter is a Low-Level Emulator (LLE) focused on mimicking the hardware's behaviour as accurately as possible to run software designed for the platform on another machine, while the former is a High-Level Emulator (HLE) which instead tries to recreate the original platform's functions to run the software on the host, thus trading off accuracy for performance in the process. Aside from the previously mentioned Mega Man title, Spine is also reportedly able to play another game with great results: We Are Doomed.

The emulator is still in early development and is available for Linux only at the time of writing. It's distributed as a standalone Flatpak package, with the only dependencies being GL and SDL2. No source code has been released yet.

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[UltraSUPRA]

I'll get this when it's able to run on a potato PC that chugs hard on Dolphin.


Like mine.

 

[smf]

Nice goal post shifting. I never said Linux was problem free - I said that the FOSS radeon drivers kick Windows' arse and that Windows tends to crash all the time. Did I say Linux was perfect? No. Try a different rebuttal - that one isn't gonna cut it.

Windows doesn't tend to crash all the time, unless maybe if you have buggy kernel drivers although I haven't had a problem in years as driver testing has become much more controlled. There have been buggy linux drivers that take down linux systems more recently.

The way you talk about linux is like it's shit don't stink.

I hate radeon, always had better luck with nvidia, I'd go so far to say that I wouldn't use an AMD product if you paid me.

Linux is better at surviving partial crashes - a kernel oops usually won't kill the kernel, but under Windows any such similar condition would cause a bugcheck.

Another point against Linux then.

 

[kevin corms]

I like to see ppl telling that AMD is shit ... AMD is in PS4 and Xbox one
AMD will be in next gen console.

AMD is not that bad, you are just fu**** blinded be nvidia and intel that sell you the same thing 2 or 3 time more expensive !

The cpu in the ps4 is fairly weak, no amount of tribalism changes that. That being said, Ryzen cpus have been good so far.

 

[gnmmarechal]

The cpu in the ps4 is fairly weak, no amount of tribalism changes that. That being said, Ryzen cpus have been good so far.

I mean... It's almost like an FX-8350 with half the clock speed. As much as I like the FX-8350 and as much as it performs pretty decently, ehhhhhhh, the PS4's is just.... no.

 

[chaoskagami]

Windows doesn't tend to crash all the time, unless maybe if you have buggy kernel drivers although I haven't had a problem in years as driver testing has become much more controlled. There have been buggy linux drivers that take down linux systems more recently.

Bugs happen. It doesn't matter how much you want to pretend they don't. Developers aren't perfect.

The way you talk about linux is like it's shit don't stink.

Again, goal post shifting. Also, this sort of inflammatory statement isn't valid discussion. What am I supposed to say back? Windows smells like donkey crap? Linux doesn't stink, but its shit does? I mean, seriously. What do you want from me with that kind of statement?

How about: News flash. This isn't about Linux. This is about graphics drivers on multiple platforms. Try again with a better argument that's not attacking the kernel for something that is mostly the Mesa project and vendors. Hell, the graphics stack is pretty much identical on BSD, for fuck's sake.

I hate radeon, always had better luck with nvidia, I'd go so far to say that I wouldn't use an AMD product if you paid me.

I see. How is this relevant to proving your point? All I see is you pretending that AMD has "issues" whilst not saying what issues exactly.

Another point against Linux then.

lolwhat. Bugcheck = BSOD = kernel panic. An oops (which is different from a kpanic) causes the faulty module to be isolated/removed and everything continues as normal without it. Linux is better at recovering from kernel issues than Windows. What part of that statement was unclear to you? That's a point for Linux, not against. I mean, unless you like rebooting all the time, then who am I to judge?

 

[Xabring]

Wow, it emulates an emulator

Emulaception!

 

[Jokey_Carrot]

uses hle instead of lle to be faster and already runs 2 games:

People who tried to emulate the original xbox

 

[Jokey_Carrot]

ha amd opengl keep dreaming

 

[smf]

Bugs happen. It doesn't matter how much you want to pretend they don't. Developers aren't perfect.

But apparently linux bugs are understandable, windows bugs are worse than hitler.

Again, goal post shifting. Also, this sort of inflammatory statement isn't valid discussion. What am I supposed to say back? Windows smells like donkey crap? Linux doesn't stink, but its shit does? I mean, seriously. What do you want from me with that kind of statement?

You make derogatory statements about Windows and then act the victim when I say something back, I think this discussion isn't going to go anywhere.

How about: News flash. This isn't about Linux. This is about graphics drivers on multiple platforms. Try again with a better argument that's not attacking the kernel for something that is mostly the Mesa project and vendors. Hell, the graphics stack is pretty much identical on BSD, for fuck's sake.

BSD will suffer the same issues if you want to play that game.

I see. How is this relevant to proving your point? All I see is you pretending that AMD has "issues" whilst not saying what issues exactly.

I've always had laptops, the hardware and driver updates were both sub par. I've had some issues with nvidia, but nowhere near as bad as AMD.

lolwhat. Bugcheck = BSOD = kernel panic. An oops (which is different from a kpanic) causes the faulty module to be isolated/removed and everything continues as normal without it. Linux is better at recovering from kernel issues than Windows. What part of that statement was unclear to you? That's a point for Linux, not against. I mean, unless you like rebooting all the time, then who am I to judge?

Linux is better at trying to limp along pretending that everything is fine. If Gnu Hurd ever takes off then you maybe you'll have a point.

 

[Ev1l0rd]

But apparently linux bugs are understandable, windows bugs are worse than hitler.

I have little stake in the discussion, but windows gives you an obscure BSOD with a vague explanation. Linux always has logs of what has gone wrong.

There is a definite argument to be made in that.

Which given the windows install already takes up 10gb, isn't really excusable in any form.

 

[wicksand420]

How come nothing in this thread is about the thread?

 

[kevin corms]

I have little stake in the discussion, but windows gives you an obscure BSOD with a vague explanation. Linux always has logs of what has gone wrong.

There is a definite argument to be made in that.

Which given the windows install already takes up 10gb, isn't really excusable in any form.

Windows does have logs as well.

 

[Ev1l0rd]

Windows does have logs as well.

When windows crashes, if you're lucky you'll get a somewhat descriptive BSOD message and a QR code with a to the side.

If linux crashes, you can still see the logs of what went wrong on your screen that are detailed and explain what went wrong and more often than not you can still use the CLI in another tty anyway to see what exactly went wrong if it doesn't happen.

Actually getting linux to crash completely is suprisingly hard, whereas Windows will gladly BSOD itself if given the option to. Linux will just log you out if say, the X server crashes (something that's quickly figured out as to what went wrong by running startx in a tty and reading the error output of that).

 

[Chary]

This is not a linux vs windows thread, please limit the bickering over OS wars.

 

[netovsk]

oh wow it runs megaman wow even my 1080 ti can't run that! yeah lets see it run dragon quest or the new final fantasy games not gowna happen anytime soon

You can run these natively on PC since they're on steam.