Things appear to not be going well for Nippon Ichi Software, as reports, comments, and outcries of financial problems begin to crop up. NIS is not to be confused with its North American localizing and publishing branch, NIS America; NIS itself is the Japanese studio that develops titles such as Disgaea, Phantom Brave, Labyrinth of Refrain, The Witch and the Hundred Knight, and many other niche JRPGs. Currently, they are working on Disgaea RPG, a mobile phone game, which was delayed "indefinitely" earlier this year after a rocky launch that saw the game taken down entirely, causing company stocks to plunge in the aftermath. A month after the delay has now seen further complications for NIS, as blogs, news outlets, and even employees have come forward to say that workers will soon go without pay, as the company doesn't have the funds for salaries.

As reported in Japan, Nippon Ichi Software has gone through with a Moving Strike Warrant, meaning that they're selling their stocks far below value, in order to quickly make money at the cost of current stockholders investments in attempts to quickly generate enough to pay their employees. As Disgaea RPG has been in development for two years and wasn't ready for launch, there has been no income brought in to provide the development team with their wages. For the few Japanese players that bought in-game items before the game was pulled, they can now request a refund, through opening a support ticket on the official website, presumably occurring now rather than immediately after the game was pulled, as a result of the MS Warrant.

It is not currently known how this will impact future Nippon Ichi Software games, such as the in-development Disgaea 6.

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[raxadian]

dissapointing. I wonder if it just comes down to sales, management, or the nature of the games they made. it'd be nice if they were bought by someone who appreciated their fun spin on things and kept their funding solid. good on them making sure employees get paid first and foremost.

The mobile game definitely killed the company when the west started to hate Lootboxes.

But let's be honest, considering all the bugs all the versions of Disgaea 1 save Complete had, problems had been there long ago.

Disgaea 2 is a good game but the PSP DLC was badly made and people complained it wasn't a direct sequel to Disgaea 1 and how much of a cliche storm it was.

Disgaea 3 won fans back, 4 is divisive and 5 was a porting disaster on PC. Is the Nintendo Switch version of five good?

And how come D2 only came out for PS3?

 

[THYPLEX]

not surprising they have lost their mojo lately Disgaea 5 was fucking terrible.

It was so bad ?
Why?

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The mobile game definitely killed the company when the west started to hate Lootboxes.

But let's be honest, considering all the bugs all the versions of Disgaea 1 save Complete had, problems had been there long ago.

Disgaea 2 is a good game but the PSP DLC was badly made and people complained it wasn't a direct sequel to Disgaea 1 and how much of a cliche storm it was.

Disgaea 3 won fans back, 4 is divisive and 5 was a porting disaster on PC. Is the Nintendo Switch version of five good?

And how come D2 only came out for PS3?

So , only disgaea 2 is good ?
Why ?

 

[raxadian]

It was so bad ?
Why?

So , only disgaea 2 is good ?
Why ?

Disgaea 1 and 3 are considered the best games but 2 has been earning some fans. I mean while 2 storywise is considered inferior to 1, the game itself is better.

4 is divisive and 5... depends how good the Switch version is.

 

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[meem]

Disgaea 1 and 3 are considered the best games but 2 has been earning some fans. I mean while 2 storywise is considered inferior to 1, the game itself is better.

4 is divisive and 5... depends how good the Switch version is.

200000 sales from what I've heard, Also what happened with the pc port? The switch ports what you expect from a complete package, and what I've seen everything from the ps4 version is accounted for in the switch version I believe

 

[eriol33]

That sounds uber bad. It seems Nippon ichi is going bankrupt or what?

 

[Darksabre72]

NISA fucked so many things up in the last decade, the D2 PSP DLC was localized terribly and was full of bugs and incomplete, the D1 PC port was a mess at launch and still doesnt work all that well, the whole Ys 8 scandal (xseed had been doing and had the rights for all the previous Ys games, but NISA took over for this one game and the translation was shit, the vita version was never localized [thats the original version btw] and the PC port was a hot mess) and then you have D5 complete PC, where the game was delayed 4 times, the entire game got leaked during beta testing because the demo was the full game with a single file changed so that you couldnt progress and if that wasnt enough, when the game finally came out, it had all of its online and social features completly removed, so it wasnt "complete" as the title suggests

wow i heard about D5 being censored with the pc port removing features and xseed issue, but this is just a mess, especially with NSIA not doing a great job on the ports. thank you for the tldr.

 

[kingaz]

Disgaea 1 and 3 are considered the best games but 2 has been earning some fans. I mean while 2 storywise is considered inferior to 1, the game itself is better.

4 is divisive and 5... depends how good the Switch version is.

My understanding is that 3 is more divisive than 4, and actually sold slightly worse than 4 (although the vita release of 3 outsold the vita release of 4, so I suppose that 3 gets a tiny edge in overall sales).

At any rate, this is really shitty news. I have been starving for 3, 4, and D2 to come to PC (and for 2, 3, 4, and D2 to all come to Switch and PS4). But they are in such dire straits right now that I fear that either the remnants of NIS or whoever buys the rights won't find any point in re-releasing older games, let alone getting around to Disgaea 6.

 

[SS4]

Damn, lets all buy stocks, it might help the company and if it does we also will all make profits in the end on top of keeping the studio alive for more games to come
But yeah, guess they wanted to go mobile to milk the shit out of whales like most companies are doing using their best IP in shitty games . . . . If they do manage to launch it, they will most likely get back in business given today's mobile landscape.

 

[alexei_gp]

@porkiewpyne mmmm sorry it was so long time not passed here on gbatemp.I didnt know you put new rules here.My apologies i didnt to be mean to the mods

 

[raxadian]

My understanding is that 3 is more divisive than 4, and actually sold slightly worse than 4 (although the vita release of 3 outsold the vita release of 4, so I suppose that 3 gets a tiny edge in overall sales).

At any rate, this is really shitty news. I have been starving for 3, 4, and D2 to come to PC (and for 2, 3, 4, and D2 to all come to Switch and PS4). But they are in such dire straits right now that I fear that either the remnants of NIS or whoever buys the rights won't find any point in re-releasing older games, let alone getting around to Disgaea 6.

Get a hackable used Vita, then you can play the first four games there. for Disgaea Dimension 2 aka Disgaea D2 you either need a hackable PS3 or a PS3 emulator and for 5 is better to get the Switch version.

I have a PSP, PS3, Vita and Switch and even a Nintendo DS to enjoy Prinny commentary mode on Disgaea DS.

 

[orangy57]

hey look its the guys that made the cool penguin hat in tf2

that penguin was cool, hope the place doesn't get shut down while scummy companies still manage to prosper

 

[kingaz]

Get a hackable used Vita, then you can play the first four games there. for Disgaea Dimension 2 aka Disgaea D2 you either need a hackable PS3 or a PS3 emulator and for 5 is better to get the Switch version.

I have a PSP, PS3, Vita and Switch and even a Nintendo DS to enjoy Prinny commentary mode on Disgaea DS.

I mean, I do have a hacked PSTV that is pretty much just for 3, 4, and persona 5 golden with a couple of PSP games to boot. And I do have disgaea 1 and 2 for PC, and 1 complete and 5 for switch.

I just would love to have all 6 games in an official form on a high quality portable console (read: not the VITA). And while I'm still a little unhappy with how NIS didn't even bother making HD sprites for many of the original classes from D1 for complete, they did eventually make that port passable enough for me to pick up.

 

[brunocar]

Is even earlier than that, Disgaea 1 for PS2 had a game breaking bug, Disgaea 1 for PSP had a bug that allowed you to beat the game quite easily. And Disgaea DS while it had extra content and Prinny Comentary mode. But the game crashed a lot and in some cases outright deleted your saved game.

pretty sure those are mostly NIS's fault, not NISA.

 

[WhiteMaze]

Taking into account that their games sold relatively well, and this being a studio far more known than other studios of the same size, I would say this is definitely bad management.

Someone has been buying too many Ferraris with company money.

Paying employees?? Ha. Those chumps should be glad they even have a job to begin with.

 

[Izual Urashima]

For those suggesting people to (re)play Disgaea 4 or especially D2, be VERY careful with them, since they are known to melt PS3s (when a certain character uses a fire spell, which is quite meta in itself, it causes a loop the console is definitely not meant to endure, making it overheat in seconds).

This has never been officially patched, but maybe fan patches hold the solution ?

 

[raxadian]

For those suggesting people to (re)play Disgaea 4 or especially D2, be VERY careful with them, since they are known to melt PS3s (when a certain character uses a fire spell, which is quite meta in itself, it causes a loop the console is definitely not meant to endure, making it overheat in seconds).

This has never been officially patched, but maybe fan patches hold the solution ?

Well at least D4 can be played on a Vita. And for D2 doubleload is said to work, you can also try disabling attacks animations.

 

[GamerzHell9137]

They both suck ass.

 

[Ericthegreat]

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Things appear to not be going well for Nippon Ichi Software, as reports, comments, and outcries of financial problems begin to crop up. NIS is not to be confused with its North American localizing and publishing branch, NIS America; NIS itself is the Japanese studio that develops titles such as Disgaea, Phantom Brave, Labyrinth of Refrain, The Witch and the Hundred Knight, and many other niche JRPGs. Currently, they are working on Disgaea RPG, a mobile phone game, which was delayed "indefinitely" earlier this year after a rocky launch that saw the game taken down entirely, causing company stocks to plunge in the aftermath. A month after the delay has now seen further complications for NIS, as blogs, news outlets, and even employees have come forward to say that workers will soon go without pay, as the company doesn't have the funds for salaries.

As reported in Japan, Nippon Ichi Software has gone through with a Moving Strike Warrant, meaning that they're selling their stocks far below value, in order to quickly make money at the cost of current stockholders investments in attempts to quickly generate enough to pay their employees. As Disgaea RPG has been in development for two years and wasn't ready for launch, there has been no income brought in to provide the development team with their wages. For the few Japanese players that bought in-game items before the game was pulled, they can now request a refund, through opening a support ticket on the official website, presumably occurring now rather than immediately after the game was pulled, as a result of the MS Warrant.

It is not currently known how this will impact future Nippon Ichi Software games, such as the in-development Disgaea 6.

Source

Wow I feel bad for the investors, I wonder where things went wrong, to me this seems like someone stole their profits. (Unless they really pay their developers well with too long of a turnover.)

 

[Bowl0l]

For those suggesting people to (re)play Disgaea 4 or especially D2, be VERY careful with them, since they are known to melt PS3s (when a certain character uses a fire spell, which is quite meta in itself, it causes a loop the console is definitely not meant to endure, making it overheat in seconds).

This has never been officially patched, but maybe fan patches hold the solution ?

Serious? Can you be specific on the move's name?