Hacking When will there be support for Emunand via USB with atmosphere?

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if another dev can get xci loading from usb, sx will go under real quick. it would be the best way to get back at them
 

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Remeber when files on sd emunand was bad and there were testaments written about how it would corrupt the sd? Well guess who's getting files on sd emunand? It seems it was the appropriate way to do it after all that shit was spoken. Atmosphere will use the same fs redirection method. So if you're not a dev stop talking like you know better than others. You don't like tx? Ok. But that doesn't mean they don't know their stuff and were the first to implement emunand + other features which are and will still be exclusive to sx os for a long time or maybe forever.
 

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Isn't a solution for XCI loading that users dump the headers from their own cards and use them for XCI loading?,that would avoid legal issues as no one would upload copyrighted headers

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Man then atmos should almost have no users..when sxos released emunand it significantly reduced atmos user. Then again with xci and another time with usb loading.
Uff it does have it hard.

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Before you say that sxos is paid i tell you that at least some ( which according to you can be a lot ) did indeed change to sxos.
no, when free CFW released the amount of SX (This isn't a OS so stop calling it like that) users significantly reduced, the amount of users that left atmosphere when SX implemented emunand is pretty small if you compare when free solutions released
You sound like someone that is crying that a $25 product they paid for knowing that free options would release later is dying, just like what happened to Gateway... guess how that story ended: Gateway died and all their users were forced to move to free solutions or otherwise stay on older firmware with less games, support and without coldboot
 
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no, when free CFW released the amount of SX (This isn't a OS so stop calling it like that) users significantly reduced, the amount of users that left atmosphere when SX implemented emunand is pretty small if you compare when free solutions released
You sound like someone that is crying that a $25 product they paid for knowing that free options would release later is dying, just like what happened to Gateway... guess how that story ended: Gateway died and all their users were forced to move to free solutions or otherwise stay on older firmware with less games, support and without coldboot
first its Sxos.. you can go see their page.
second i dont cry as i use reinx :P
i just find it funny when someone say that if atmo releases emunand it means the final nail for sxos but when sxos released feature after feature that other cfw doesnt have it has minimal impact to these cfw.
I feel like some ( a lot ) of atmo users do not even use atmo as it should.. without signature patches.. and if atmo releases an emunand then even less people will do so.
 
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Remeber when files on sd emunand was bad and there were testaments written about how it would corrupt the sd? Well guess who's getting files on sd emunand? It seems it was the appropriate way to do it after all that shit was spoken. Atmosphere will use the same fs redirection method. So if you're not a dev stop talking like you know better than others. You don't like tx? Ok. But that doesn't mean they don't know their stuff and were the first to implement emunand + other features which are and will still be exclusive to sx os for a long time or maybe forever.

Besides they have some atmosphere unwanted features, their payloader usb dongle is the smallest one in the universe until the dragon.

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Anyways, Atmosphere emunand dev could read nand partitions for now. Hyped.
 
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Remeber when files on sd emunand was bad and there were testaments written about how it would corrupt the sd? Well guess who's getting files on sd emunand? It seems it was the appropriate way to do it after all that shit was spoken. Atmosphere will use the same fs redirection method. So if you're not a dev stop talking like you know better than others. You don't like tx? Ok. But that doesn't mean they don't know their stuff and were the first to implement emunand + other features which are and will still be exclusive to sx os for a long time or maybe forever.

The thing that was bad was the dual partitions emuNAND setup, where it wasn't even SD based.

Files-on-SD isn't inherently bad, though risky with exFAT. The problem you are having is that you are not engaging in technological analysis; the issue with SX's emuNAND is the implementation (except for dual partitions on NAND, which was always bad) not the concept.
 

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The thing that was bad was the dual partitions emuNAND setup, where it wasn't even SD based.

Files-on-SD isn't inherently bad, though risky with exFAT. The problem you are having is that you are not engaging in technological analysis; the issue with SX's emuNAND is the implementation (except for dual partitions on NAND, which was always bad) not the concept.
I'm not talking about the dual partition nand "emunand". That was not the ideal way from the beginning but I still give them props for being the first to take first step to having a working emunand solution. I'm talking about files on sd emunand. The shitshow started on page 3 on their beta 2.3 and lasted like 40 pages which is insane. Maybe you weren't part of the SX Haters United Organization back then and don't remember when it happened. I'll leave a link: https://gbatemp.net/threads/team-xecuter-presents-sx-os-v2-3-beta.523685/page-3
I know files on sd is not bad. I use it every day and it works like a charm.
 
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I'm not talking about the dual partition nand "emunand". That was not the ideal way from the beginning but I still give them props for being the first to make take first step to having a working emunand solution. I'm talking about files on sd emunand. The shitshow started on page 3 on their beta 2.3 and lasted like 40 pages which is insane. Maybe you weren't part of the SX Haters United Organization back then and don't remember when it happened. I'll leave a link: https://gbatemp.net/threads/team-xecuter-presents-sx-os-v2-3-beta.523685/page-3
I know files on sd is not bad. I use it every day and it works like a charm.

SX's emuNAND implementation (including the files-on-SD version) is poor. Buggy, lots of corruption. That doesn't mean files-on-SD is inherently bad. TX's problem, as usual, is one of competence. The Atmosphere people are competent enough to do this well. TX is not, so they have problems all the time.

Your personal experience is not relevant. Actual technical analysis is all that is needed.
 
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SX's emuNAND implementation (including the files-on-SD version) is poor. Buggy, lots of corruption. That doesn't mean files-on-SD is inherently bad. TX's problem, as usual, is one of competence. The Atmosphere people are competent enough to do this well. TX is not, so they have problems all the time.

Your personal experience is not relevant. Actual technical analysis is all that is needed.
You're talking about something you haven't tried saying is poor, buggy with lot's of corruption and when I say I use it everyday and it works flawless then it's not relevant because it's my personal experience? I don't want to name call but you seem to have problems to not see the flaw in that logic. Tx have problems all the time? I'm talking about their emunand. I know they don't have a perfect track record but I also know about what I'm specifically talking about. I won't continue to reply to you. You and unbiased logic seem to don't mix well.
 
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SX's emuNAND implementation (including the files-on-SD version) is poor. Buggy, lots of corruption. That doesn't mean files-on-SD is inherently bad. TX's problem, as usual, is one of competence. The Atmosphere people are competent enough to do this well. TX is not, so they have problems all the time.

Your personal experience is not relevant. Actual technical analysis is all that is needed.

Can you provide said technical analysis of the SD file emunand or point me to it from a reputable source? Not sure how peoples personal experiences using it is irrelevant. You're saying its buggy, but people have been using it since it came out without issues. Myself included. Sure there are also people that have issues and that is mostly user error. Not trying to be a dick honestly contrary to what most conversations here include. Just conversation and curiosity.
 
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Can you provide said technical analysis of the SD file emunand or point me to it from a reputable source? Not sure how peoples personal experiences using it is irrelevant. You're saying its buggy, but people have been using it since it came out without issues. Myself included. Sure there are also people that have issues and that is mostly user error. Not trying to be a dick honestly contrary to what most conversations here include. Just conversation and curiosity.

I am not going to take a two hour task up for you, but Hexkyz and others on the Reswitched Discord have done the work. Look around.

Anecdotal 'evidence' is absolutely irrelevant and always is.

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You're talking about something you haven't tried saying is poor, buggy with lot's of corruption and when I say I use it everyday and it works flawless then it's not relevant because it's my personal experience? I don't want to name call but you seem to have problems to not see the flaw in that logic. Tx have problems all the time? I'm talking about their emunand. I know they don't have a perfect track record but I also know about what I'm specifically talking about. I won't continue to reply to you. You and unbiased logic seem to don't mix well.

I disregarded your post after I got to the part containing an assumption that I find stupid. So before the end of the first run on sentence. Post it again, this time after putting more thought into it, and I'll respond.
 
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I am not going to take a two hour task up for you, but Hexkyz and others on the Reswitched Discord have done the work. Look around.

Anecdotal'evidence' is absolutely irrelevant and always is.




:bow: Make sense that peoples experiences using something means nothing or is it only is this case? Kinda makes beta testing and what not kind useless then right?
 
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SX's emuNAND implementation (including the files-on-SD version) is poor. Buggy, lots of corruption. That doesn't mean files-on-SD is inherently bad. TX's problem, as usual, is one of competence. The Atmosphere people are competent enough to do this well. TX is not, so they have problems all the time.

Your personal experience is not relevant. Actual technical analysis is all that is needed.

lots of corruption and buggy, 1000s of people are using their Emunand each day, where are all these 'lots' of posts with users having problems ?

SX is not open source so i doubt that Hexkyz and others have spent many hours trying to understand machine code instructions how their different versions of Emunand work.

I would have thought they've got better things to do, infact maybe they are , it could explain why Atmos doesn't have a working Emunand yet :unsure:
 
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This entire thread has devolved into a pissing contest by a bunch of people who can't even read a line of code. Good read, though.
 
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Can you provide said technical analysis of the SD file emunand or point me to it from a reputable source? Not sure how peoples personal experiences using it is irrelevant. You're saying its buggy, but people have been using it since it came out without issues. Myself included. Sure there are also people that have issues and that is mostly user error. Not trying to be a dick honestly contrary to what most conversations here include. Just conversation and curiosity.

Relax, let's play some new games. Someone follows their own god. We're just the ordinary users who enjoy the available features to take advantage of. Don't deal with trolling people who even didn't use something once but telling others as they know everything. There're many traps around here, the typical gbatemp as usual.
 
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Isn't a solution for XCI loading that users dump the headers from their own cards and use them for XCI loading?,that would avoid legal issues as no one would upload copyrighted headers

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no, when free CFW released the amount of SX (This isn't a OS so stop calling it like that) users significantly reduced, the amount of users that left atmosphere when SX implemented emunand is pretty small if you compare when free solutions released
You sound like someone that is crying that a $25 product they paid for knowing that free options would release later is dying, just like what happened to Gateway... guess how that story ended: Gateway died and all their users were forced to move to free solutions or otherwise stay on older firmware with less games, support and without coldboot
I still use my gateway in 11.8, the 3ds files and the great way of handling cheats are things that free cfw never had
 
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