[Rumor] Wall Street Journal claims Nintendo will release both an enhanced and budget model Switch

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The Wall Street Journal is back to reporting Nintendo Switch rumors once more, following up on their October 2018 claim that Nintendo would be releasing a new hardware revision of the Switch in 2019. Originally, they stated that the Switch would focus on peripheral additions similar to Labo, rather than new hardware, before changing their initial stance to state that a "better" Switch revision was on the way, and would focus on upgraded hardware. This time around, their claim has a few more details--now mentioning two potential variations: a cheaper model which would replace the Nintendo 3DS as the budget option, and an enhanced model, which would be "targeted at avid video gamers".

This conflicts with previous recent statements from both the Nintendo JP president Shuntaro Furukawa and the soon to be former president of Nintendo of America, Reggie Fils-Aime, who separately debunked new hardware rumors by saying "[it] is not Nintendo's current focus".

Right now, as we go into our second holiday, my focus is making sure the current grey and neon Switch continue to have momentum in the market place. You saw systems, whether it’s our own or competitive home console systems, utilize that tactic a bit later in the life cycle. So right now, the current execution of Nintendo Switch with the Joy-Con and all of the capabilities, that’s our focus right now.

The Wall Street Journal further asserts that these two supposed hardware revisions would be "different from the original, and you would be surprised," with both versions launching as early as Summer 2019. According to the WSJ's insider sources, hardware prototypes have already been sent to software developers, who say that the "upgraded" Switch model won't be as strong as the Xbox One X or PlayStation 4 Pro.

WSJ said:
Nintendo Co. plans to launch two new versions of its Switch gaming console as early as this summer, people familiar with the matter said, as the company seeks to sustain sales momentum for the product going into a crucial third year.

What are your thoughts? Do you find the Wall Street Journal to be reliable, or have other rumors of new Switch hardware got you convinced? Are you more skeptical, after already hearing the WSJ's initial story, or do you believe that there's no room for doubt after so many claims of a revised Switch model have been circulating across the internet? With sales of the Nintendo 3DS slowing down, and the company having just barely missed the mark on its 20 million sales fiscal year projection, a new "pro" and "budget" model could be just what they need to get more sales rolling.

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"If Nintendo does that (exclusive games for the enhanced version ) it will shoot themselves in the foot and loose a shit ton of customers. We all know why Sega in the end failed"

You mentioned Sega, sure. But was there something wrong with a comparison to the DSi and N3DS exclusives AS WELL AS Sega? Because you seem to be oddly overly upset about it, and because you WERE talking about "exclusive games for the enhanced version" after all. Does adding to a conversation and making new argument points upset you THAT much? Plus you're still accusing me of making comparisons that I never made and are flying off the handle about it. YOU are comparing Sega, not me.

You want to make comments about reading? Here's one for ya.... reading doesn't help much when there's a lack of reading comprehension skills you're obviously missing. Also, there's still the calling me stupid several times that you never touched base with, after accusing me of it.

There are doctors that can help you. Remember that this is just one day, not the whole of your life. I'm sure you'll make it through. Stay positive!!! Big hugs!!! :)
Everybody knows what happened with Sega so it was quite clear i was talking about the 32x and mega cd and the saturn. I really don't get how you could fail to notice that so no what you commented had nothing to do with my original comment hence why i asked how is that comparable wich it clearly isn't. I explained to you multiple times now already that i was talking about that but you keep on nagging and nagging. I'm pretty sure my reading comprehession is quite okay that i do understand what you commented but you fail to notice that i was talking about the 32X, sega cd and the saturn. I think you should do a bit more about your reading comprehension than i need to do.
 
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No...games???


Mario 3D Land, NSMB 2, Zelda, Zelda, Zelda, Mario Kart, Luigi’s Mansion 1 & 2, Metroid Samus Returns, Animal Crossing, Pokemon(s), Super Smash Bros, Monster Hunter, Kid Icarus, Donkey Kong Country Returns, Mario Maker, Kirby(s), Xenoblade, Resident Evil Revelations, Mario Golf, Mario Tennis.


I could go on, and on, and on, and....


That’s before we even get to DS compatibility. Not to mention hacking it and playing 40 odd years worth of retro games.


No games? No games? The 3DS is one of the best handhelds ever for games.


But, each to their own. If it’s not your cup of tea, don’t drink it.

So a bunch of Nintendo first party efforts, largely the same as all that came before it, I mostly do not care for and was not the sort of thing that made the GBA and DS what they were. What few devs remained for the 3ds also seemed content to pump out mediocre efforts as well -- ignore the graphics and would bravely default have done much of anything for the 16 bit era?

I was not impressed with the 3ds emulators either. Most of those were so so ports of other things, and lacked any of the polish and such of the GBA and DS efforts. Ultimately "slightly better SNES emulation" is about all it has over the DS and if you had a PSP at the time then even that is dubious. I did cover the backwards compatibility in a later post but at that point we are looking at whether the 3ds brings anything new to the table, and I am content to write it off unless people do enjoy the form factor. Skip the 3ds library and you will not particularly miss out on any new gameplay styles or masterpieces of a given gameplay style (some might say Zelda but give me the dpad patches for the DS efforts, or even GB, GBC and even Minish Cap after a fashion and I will take them in preference to between worlds). Coming in completely cold to handhelds and I could see a debate after a fashion, similarly if you were completely unaware of Nintendo's general take on gaming and wanted to do a bit of an exploration and also could not sort a home console to play with.

If you like it then so it goes, however when people point at the 3ds as some kind of bastion of gaming greatness I look and instead only see a slide into mediocrity that mirrored their home console efforts went in for a few generations earlier. If someone wanted to point at the 3ds and say "that's how you do a handheld" I would have to question that when the GBA and DS will cast a far longer shadow and probably be a far better example to follow.

with the amount of posts youve made and the length of them it beggars belief how you hav time to complete a game :lol:
It is not the first time I have had to defend my position that the 3ds is happily ignored and you will not end up worse for it. A such I have most of my thoughts here reasonably well formed and just have to dash them out.
 

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Everybody knows what happened with Sega so it was quite clear i was talking about the 32x and mega cd and the saturn. I really don't get how you could fail to notice that so no what you commented had nothing to do with my original comment hence why i asked how is that comparable wich it clearly isn't. I explained to you multiple times now already that i was talking about that but you keep on nagging and nagging.

When someone mentions "exclusive games for the enhanced version" in a Switch topic on a primarily Nintendo forum, then says that the DSi and N3DS are non-relatable to the original comment....

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Again, it's fine if YOU were specifically referring to Sega. However, I ADDED to the conversation to include the DSi and N3DS. Why do you have such a strong & negative reaction to adding to the conversation? It was quite clear I was talking about the DSi and N3DS. I really don't get how you could fail to notice that. I explained to you multiple times now already that I was talking about that but you keep on nagging and nagging. Are you done yet? Might want to move your bed away from the wall as I think you bumped your head pretty hard this morning.
 

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When someone mentions "exclusive games for the enhanced version" in a Switch topic on a primarily Nintendo forum, then says that the DSi and N3DS are non-relatable to the original comment....

j1WYec9.gif


Again, it's fine if YOU were specifically referring to Sega. However, I ADDED to the conversation to include the DSi and N3DS. Why do you have such a strong & negative reaction to adding to the conversation? It was quite clear I was talking about the DSi and N3DS. I really don't get how you could fail to notice that. I explained to you multiple times now already that I was talking about that but you keep on nagging and nagging. Are you done yet? Might want to move your bed away from the wall as I think you bumped your head pretty hard this morning.
Dude, let me explain my comment again. Because for somebody who speaks English natively you surely the fuck can't understand anything. I never claimed Nintendo will go that route but i said if Nintendo will do the same as Sega did (32x, mega cd, saturn) then that will surely fail and piss of a lot of consumers. You commented towards that with the 3DS didn't fail with the N3DS or de DS with the DSI wich i replied to '' how is that comparable with the 32x, mega cd or saturn ??? I'm still waiting for that. Do something about your reading comprehension okay before constantly nagging and nagging about the same thing wich doesn't have ANYTHING to do with what i said. Anyway you're on the ignore list now since it clear you're quite dumb or trolling wich i both don't have any patience for
 

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A hardware revision from Nintendo? I’m calling bullcrap on this, there’s absolutely no precedent for this kind of thing from Nintendo whatsoever.


Well, unless you count the NES-101, SNS-101, Gameboy Pocket, Gameboy Light, Gameboy Colour, Gameboy Advance SP, Gameboy Micro, DS Lite, DSi, DSi XL, 3DS XL, 2DS, 2DS XL, New 3DS.....


But other than that, no precedent whatsoever, it’s totally not the kind of thing Nintendo is known for.
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not sure if they'll drop at the same time, but my guess for the two are the same as I've been guessing: cheaper version with attached joycons and none of the fancy features needed for kid-friendly games. have to push the new pokemon game at kids, dontcha know. maybe even a clamshell design, or just smaller screen. will still work in a dock, or with it's own smaller dock.

also, remodeled normal version that's been streamlined and various tweaks and needed things added. I'm thinking more ds to dslite than 3ds to new 3ds. A new dock, remodeled joycons, better screen or battery life, slight boost in power through better heat management allowing for less under-clocking. this is going to *look* different rather than be 1.5x powerful.
 
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LOL...if that happens i'll let you tell me "i told you so". Nintendo just makes a "NEW" line of all future products starting from the 3DS and going forward. That seems to be what's happening if this claim is true.
 

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Relatively budget friendly? Considering they charge an insane amount for a plastic with an hdmi and usb ports? What about the insane price of both joycons? The switch is anything but budget friendly, especially when you also want to get a few games with it.
Looks like someone wants to complain about minor details. I guess not everyone can afford a small device at a price cheaper than the competition. There's not too much room to complain if you have a good amount of money to throw at it.
 

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So a bunch of Nintendo first party efforts, largely the same as all that came before it, I mostly do not care for and was not the sort of thing that made the GBA and DS what they were. What few devs remained for the 3ds also seemed content to pump out mediocre efforts as well -- ignore the graphics and would bravely default have done much of anything for the 16 bit era?

I was not impressed with the 3ds emulators either. Most of those were so so ports of other things, and lacked any of the polish and such of the GBA and DS efforts. Ultimately "slightly better SNES emulation" is about all it has over the DS and if you had a PSP at the time then even that is dubious. I did cover the backwards compatibility in a later post but at that point we are looking at whether the 3ds brings anything new to the table, and I am content to write it off unless people do enjoy the form factor. Skip the 3ds library and you will not particularly miss out on any new gameplay styles or masterpieces of a given gameplay style (some might say Zelda but give me the dpad patches for the DS efforts, or even GB, GBC and even Minish Cap after a fashion and I will take them in preference to between worlds). Coming in completely cold to handhelds and I could see a debate after a fashion, similarly if you were completely unaware of Nintendo's general take on gaming and wanted to do a bit of an exploration and also could not sort a home console to play with.

If you like it then so it goes, however when people point at the 3ds as some kind of bastion of gaming greatness I look and instead only see a slide into mediocrity that mirrored their home console efforts went in for a few generations earlier. If someone wanted to point at the 3ds and say "that's how you do a handheld" I would have to question that when the GBA and DS will cast a far longer shadow and probably be a far better example to follow.


It is not the first time I have had to defend my position that the 3ds is happily ignored and you will not end up worse for it. A such I have most of my thoughts here reasonably well formed and just have to dash them out.


Well it's like I said before my friend, each to their own. If you don't like it, that's perfectly fine, we're all entitled to our own opinions and nobody can argue with that. It's a personal thing to you, so nobody can say it's wrong.

However, if it were me, I would probably have said, the 3DS has no games which appeal to me. Rather than, it has no good games. Game quality is very subjective, as I'm sure you know all too well. While you may not like it, clearly millions of other people do, very much so.
 

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Dude, let me explain my comment again. Because for somebody who speaks English natively you surely the fuck can't understand anything. I never claimed Nintendo will go that route but i said if Nintendo will do the same as Sega did (32x, mega cd, saturn) then that will surely fail and piss of a lot of consumers. You commented towards that with the 3DS didn't fail with the N3DS or de DS with the DSI wich i replied to '' how is that comparable with the 32x, mega cd or saturn ??? I'm still waiting for that. Do something about your reading comprehension okay before constantly nagging and nagging about the same thing wich doesn't have ANYTHING to do with what i said. Anyway you're on the ignore list now since it clear you're quite dumb or trolling wich i both don't have any patience for

Trolling? Who's the one who in every post is calling me stupid and dumb, started with the "reading" thing, flying off the handle, swearing, etc. etc.? If you can't accept the fact that others can add to a conversation, maybe the internet and forums aren't the best place for you. If you make a comment about Nintendo failing if they make games that would be exclusive for a new Switch, but fail to see any connection between Nintendos own products and how they handled exclusive games with them... that's on you. Doesn't matter one single bit if YOU were referring to Sega. I wasn't. Why is that such a huge deal for you and incredibly hard to understand? Is no one else allowed to add their thoughts or opinions? Get over yourself and off your high horse. Meltdown much?
 

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If Nintendo does that (exclusive games for the enhanced version ) it will shoot themselves in the foot and loose a shit ton of customers. We all know why Sega in the end failed

The difference between Nintendo and Sega was that Sega, in addition to their nonsense with the Genesis, also made 5th generation console that wasn't what people were necessarily looking for in a system at the time. Nintendo was putting Mario, Zelda, Donkey Kong, F-Zero, and a lot of their original games in 3D like we know it today as opposed to Mode7 or going classic SMT to try and appear to be "3D." Nintendo never released the SNES Playstation and the less said about bombing Dodongos and hoping to have lots of spaghetti to accompany the peace that all true warriors strive for, the better.
 

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The difference between Nintendo and Sega was that Sega, in addition to their nonsense with the Genesis, also made 5th generation console that wasn't what people were necessarily looking for in a system at the time. Nintendo was putting Mario, Zelda, Donkey Kong, F-Zero, and a lot of their original games in 3D like we know it today as opposed to Mode7 or going classic SMT to try and appear to be "3D." Nintendo never released the SNES Playstation and the less said about bombing Dodongos and hoping to have lots of spaghetti to accompany the peace that all true warriors strive for, the better.
i didn't say nintendo did the same thing but i'm just worried they'll do the same thing with this system and bring out a new one with exclusives that only work on the latter basically splitting the whole consumer base they have
 

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i didn't say nintendo did the same thing but i'm just worried they'll do the same thing with this system and bring out a new one with exclusives that only work on the latter basically splitting the whole consumer base they have

I'm aware that the post wasn't directed to me, but we're all in this conversation together. We're all allowed to jump in at any time with our own thoughts and opinions. That said....

Will you please just STOP?
 

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i didn't say nintendo did the same thing but i'm just worried they'll do the same thing with this system and bring out a new one with exclusives that only work on the latter basically splitting the whole consumer base they have

Well, that's the price of releasing a system with hardware that would be best be described as being a generation behind the current generation systems yet still capable of playing DOOM 4, Wolfenstein II (they couldn't port the first game as well?), Doom Eternal, and Mortal Kombat 11 because the games were built to be scalable to the Switch. That's one of the reasons the Switch still isn't replacing a PS4 in regards to a need for consoles (I would love for them to snatch up the Yakuza games as well, as that's one of the only games in addition to fighters that's keeping the PS4 in my entertainment center atm in the unlucky event my PC kicks the bucket again). I would hope that Nintendo, if they were to make a Switch 2 (because I can't see them getting anymore convenient and filling a hole in the market outside of MAYBE releasing a phone, because we need another competitor in that market, amirite?/s), would try to be competitive with a Ryzen 2 computationally and whatever graphics chip/solution they're using in the PS5 and the Xbox Two/Next/WindowsBox/Glorified Locked Down PC At This Point. 8-10 GB of RAM would also help in that department. If they could manage that, Nintendo could stand to reap benefits they haven't reaped for several console generations in terms of game selections, especially for remasters of games that'd be compatible (assuming that those are even a thing in the 9th generation of consoles if those PS5 rumors are anything to go off).
 

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Says the person who had already put me on the ignore list. There's no need for you to repeat yourself to everyone that has a different thought in their head than yourself. But but but... SEGA!!! But but but... 32X!!! I'm surprised you haven't added a "HILLARY!!!" or "OBAMA!!!" in there yet.
 

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