Hacking CONFIRMED: No roadblocks for 7.0.1 Support on SXOS

[gizmomelb]

in before TX release 7.x compatiblity.. ''TX STOLE TSEC! they hacked SEPT!!''

 

[Lacius]

From the time it launched its said emunand its in progress... A year.. If people can be normal about emunand for a year.. Then its even more normal for sxos 7.0.1 to take a while.

Keep repeating that aales are low or they are based on ignorance. Atmo is low on users. A lie for a lie.

See my post above about the open-source emuNAND progress and how there aren't any major roadblocks. There was also no promised timeline.

According to my poll, sales might be low. I don't claim to know if they are, but it's a reasonable suggestion.

I don't think I'm being unfair.

 

[ombus]

See my post above about the open-source emuNAND progress and how there aren't any major roadblocks.

According to my poll, sales might be low. I don't claim to know if they are, but it's a reasonable suggestion.

I don't think I'm being unfair.

No roadblocks and a year and still nothing? Now you are gonna say its not their priority..

 

[Deleted User]

No roadblocks and a year and still nothing? Now you are gonna say its not their priority..

no one honestly cares about emunand except tx supporters like you because thats the only thing keeping you guys relevant these days~

 

[Legend Of Kay]

I've chosen not to take their word for it in part because of their history of making bold claims with no results. That doesn't mean they won't do it, but their word isn't reason enough to accept that they will. Also, please don't put words in my mouth, because I already said after their announcement that I think it's more likely than not that there will be 7.0.x support. Quit being disingenuous.

As for your point about sales, they don't mean much if sales are already unsustainably low. In addition, by your logic, the time they're spending working on 7.0.x would cost them sales, when using a sept-based solution would have mitigated that. The fact that they haven't used sept probably means they have more to lose by acknowledging Atmosphere or that they have nothing to lose by not offering support. Either option is damning.

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You can see progress on GitHub, and there's no particular roadblock in the way of emuNAND, unlike with 7.0.x support. It's a false analogy.

I assume you’re talking about support for patched units with the “bold claims, no results”, for all you know they are withholding the solution until the revised switch units are released to protect exploits.

You don’t know there sales figures and trying to form an entire argument based on a poll that only covers a small percentage of all cfw users is ridiculous and egotistical.

 

[ombus]

no one honestly cares about emunand except tx supporters like you because thats the only thing keeping you guys relevant these days~

First i use rei. Second the people who are against sxos keep saying xci, usb loading and emunand arent important and nobody wants them but thats just an excuse to say because you dont have them on atmos.
Again the fact atmos has 7.0.1 already does not mean sxos should too.heck not even rei has it and only uses sept for now. If atmos can take their time with emunand then sxos too can with 7.0.1 and with more reason even.

 

[g4jek8j54]

There’s plenty of reason to think it is. Mainly the devs have said that they are working on it. You have just chosen not to believe them because of your hatred towards TX. You state your opinion as fact and stick your fingers in your ears and sing “la la la la” to block out anyone else’s opinions cause the only one that can be right is you. Quite sad really.

Many people in this thread have claimed that TX won’t use Sept and will drop support completely because it will cost them sales as people will realise that there is other alternatives. Which is true. They will lose sales if they can’t figure out another option besides Sept.

But do you know what will cost them even more in sales? Completely dropping support. Nobody will continue to buy SXOS at all if it doesn’t move past 6.2. But there will still be a percentage of people, most likely lower than now but still there, that purchase SXOS even with Atmosphers Sept at boot because of the simplicity of use.

Not everybody wants to use python scripts to USB install a game, especially when you can simply put the file on a HD and install it on the switch itself. This is just one of the many simpler features of SX that the people who don’t spend large amounts of time on console hacking forums will look for in a CFW.

I believe TX will make the financially smarter decision, which is that if they can not crack 7.0.0+ by themselves, they will bite the bullet and implement sept. But only time will tell.

Just because the developers have supposedly said that they are working on a solution (and I believe that they are), that doesn't guarantee that an updated version will ever be released. By the way, how do we know for sure that the developers have said that? Again, Team-Xecuter moderators have stated several times on their forums that they are not a part of the development process. That leaves that one post by the user "Xecuter," and we have no knowledge of who they are, or what communication (if any) they have with the development team.

We have chosen not to believe them because they have provided no proof whatsoever that they currently have support for 7.0.x firmwares (without using Sept, that is). Also, for me personally, I don't just take the word of known liars and thieves, who have included malicious code in their "software," as credible. I require proof along with those claims.

It wouldn't surprise me if they released an updated version that had Sept included in it, but I personally don't believe that they are willing to do so. Their official stance (and what is repeated by their forum moderators) appears to be that they don't use any code from projects like Atmosphere (which is false). If they include the Atmosphere splash screen, there is no more denying the fact that they, in fact, do use such code, at least from time to time. Something I haven't seen mentioned in this thread is what, if any, legal issues could arise from them using Atmosphere code in an unauthorized manner? Could they be worried that the developers involved with Atmosphere might attempt to seek legal recourse for the unauthorized use of their software? Of course, depending on where Team-Xecuter is located, who knows if anything could even be done about it.

No roadblocks and a year and still nothing? Now you are gonna say its not their priority..

Define "roadblock." Also, SciresM has talked about the status of emulated NAND support in this very thread...

https://gbatemp.net/threads/confirm...1-support-on-sxos.533289/page-19#post-8547494

no one honestly cares about emunand except tx supporters like you because thats the only thing keeping you guys relevant these days~

Eh, as someone who owns a 1.0.0 Switch, I am actually very interested in Atmosphere supporting emulated NAND. I have Super Mario Odyssey here, and I've been dying to play it (I don't trust myself to correctly update without burning fuses, and the last thing I want to do is brick a 1.0.0 Switch). I've always preferred not making any permanent modifications when I hack consoles.

 

[roamin]

First i use rei. Second the people who are against sxos keep saying xci, usb loading and emunand arent important and nobody wants them but thats just an excuse to say because you dont have them on atmos.
Again the fact atmos has 7.0.1 already does not mean sxos should too.heck not even rei has it and only uses sept for now. If atmos can take their time with emunand then sxos too can with 7.0.1 and with more reason even.

Yeah because emunand is more important then supporting the latest firmware to keep the devices they sold working in peoples updated switches...... uh huh.

Will be interesting to see just how long it takes for sxos to actually support latest firmwares (without atmos)

Should have bets on when will TX support there devices on the latest FW.

Xci. I used sxos. I used xci and I prefer nsp. I installed nsps even when I was using xci. I prefer it but each to there own. Point is xci is not a selling point in my opinion. Only matters to people who defend sxos. Which I own also. Usb is not needed. 400gb card means I have everything I want everywhere I go. Again I wouldn't use usb loading. Pointless for me.

So yes I own sxos and will still tell you them features are a waste of time to me personally.

My sole number 1 priority with any device I buy with cash is to know it will support all firmwares and update relatively quickly when new firmware drops. Always my number 1. Which TX clearly struggle to do.

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Eh, as someone who owns a 1.0.0 Switch, I am actually very interested in Atmosphere supporting emulated NAND. I have Super Mario Odyssey here, and I've been dying to play it (I don't trust myself to correctly update without burning fuses, and the last thing I want to do is brick a 1.0.0 Switch). I've always preferred not making any permanent modifications when I hack consoles.

And your still on 1.0.0 for what reason exactly?

 

[Idontknowwhattoputhere]

Yeah because emunand is more important then supporting the latest firmware to keep the devices they sold working in peoples updated switches...... uh





And your still on 1.0.0 for what reason exactly?

Coldboot exploit

 

[stephrk398]

Could they be worried that the developers involved with Atmosphere might attempt to seek legal recourse for the unauthorized use of their software?

Really? TX was willing to take on the Juggernaut that is Nintendo and you think they're worried about legal action from a couple of rogue developers? Please. Anyways, they're based in China.

 

[gizmomelb]

So yes I own sxos and will still tell you them features are a waste of time to me personally.

so *why* did you buy SX OS then if none of it's features suit you personally?

 

[kamesenin888]

Yeah because emunand is more important then supporting the latest firmware to keep the devices they sold working in peoples updated switches...... uh huh.

Will be interesting to see just how long it takes for sxos to actually support latest firmwares (without atmos)

Should have bets on when will TX support there devices on the latest FW.

Xci. I used sxos. I used xci and I prefer nsp. I installed nsps even when I was using xci. I prefer it but each to there own. Point is xci is not a selling point in my opinion. Only matters to people who defend sxos. Which I own also. Usb is not needed. 400gb card means I have everything I want everywhere I go. Again I wouldn't use usb loading. Pointless for me.

So yes I own sxos and will still tell you them features are a waste of time to me personally.

My sole number 1 priority with any device I buy with cash is to know it will support all firmwares and update relatively quickly when new firmware drops. Always my number 1. Which TX clearly struggle to do.

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And your still on 1.0.0 for what reason exactly?

I could use atmosphere to be on 7.0.1 and I really do not care atm because there is nearly no game I cannot play on 6.2, for my friend with emunand and clean sysnand, he can use hacks on the emunand and play online legit with his clean sysnand without any hassle, if you have a lot of games, nsp are awful because they are not ordered by name instead they are ordered by use, with xci that doesnt happen, if you want to replace a game just delete and copy to the sd, for me that is amazing, also you do not need to install anything using double space at that moment.

When atmosphere supports xci and emunand I would consider switching, but even the cheat engine is far better so those 3 minimal perks that people do not see useful are useful for me

 

[ombus]

Yeah because emunand is more important then supporting the latest firmware to keep the devices they sold working in peoples updated switches...... uh huh.

Will be interesting to see just how long it takes for sxos to actually support latest firmwares (without atmos)

Should have bets on when will TX support there devices on the latest FW.

Xci. I used sxos. I used xci and I prefer nsp. I installed nsps even when I was using xci. I prefer it but each to there own. Point is xci is not a selling point in my opinion. Only matters to people who defend sxos. Which I own also. Usb is not needed. 400gb card means I have everything I want everywhere I go. Again I wouldn't use usb loading. Pointless for me.

So yes I own sxos and will still tell you them features are a waste of time to me personally.

My sole number 1 priority with any device I buy with cash is to know it will support all firmwares and update relatively quickly when new firmware drops. Always my number 1. Which TX clearly struggle to do.

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And your still on 1.0.0 for what reason exactly?

This is like you:
7.0.1 only matters to people who defend atmosphere..
Should have bets on when will atmos support emunand.
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By this point in time 7.0.1 is not important.. 99,999999% games do not use it.. and again.. why is that sxos HAS to have an update right now and are called for not having it.. but no mention of others os ? cant they take their time to do it if they actually dont want to use sept ? Atmos takes their time to do emunand.. and its easier.

I by no means say that there is a better os than other... thats just preference.. some people like xci.. others like latest firm, etc. but to bash on sxos just for not having latest firm when is still not even important...
time will tell if sxos will have 7.0.1 compatibility or not.. if it comes a day when it does.. i wonder what people will use to bash it next.


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if you have a lot of games, nsp are awful because they are not ordered by name instead they are ordered by use, with xci that doesnt happen, if you want to replace a game just delete and copy to the sd, for me that is amazing, also you do not need to install anything using double space at that moment.

I think there is a program to actually order the games however you want.. dunno if it works on usb but i did read sd. maybe check it out.

 

[M7L7NK7]

as someone who owns a 1.0.0 Switch, I am actually very interested in Atmosphere supporting emulated NAND. I have Super Mario Odyssey here, and I've been dying to play it (I don't trust myself to correctly update without burning fuses, and the last thing I want to do is brick a 1.0.0 Switch). I've always preferred not making any permanent modifications when I hack consoles.

It's so easy to update without burning fuses, if you can read then you can do it. If you make a nand backup nothing that you do will be a permanent modification or a brick... I've gone from 1.0.0 to 5.1.0 then back down to 1.0.0 a few times, it's really simple and you're just missing out

 

[mrjoshuaco]

no one honestly cares about emunand except tx supporters like you because thats the only thing keeping you guys relevant these days~

Or, you know, those that waited to fuck around with their Switch until EmuNAND partitions were a thing so they could fuck around on SXOS offline and play online legit on SysNAND without much worry about leaving shit behind on SysNAND or doing restores. Then again, for some of us, CFW is a tool that meets a use case and not a fucking religion or waifu. Soon as there's EmuNAND support for Atmo (especially now that it has cheat support), or I find a game I'd like to play that requires 7.0, I'll be happy to switch. Because, again, it's a tool - not a body pillow.

And your still on 1.0.0 for what reason exactly?

There's keks, and then there's top keks.

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it's really simple and you're just missing out

If he's using EmuNAND, neither is he for the moment - at least until 7.0 is required for whatever he's playing. Of course, if he's looking to play online, then your argument holds some water. Really depends on his use case.

 

[M7L7NK7]

Well it sounds like he has an untouched switch

 

[mrjoshuaco]

Well it sounds like he has an untouched switch

Oh, misread his post, my bad. Still tho, if he has no need for online and he's paranoid, seems simple enough to EmuNAND that shit.

 

[xabier]

no one honestly cares about emunand except tx supporters like you because thats the only thing keeping you guys relevant these days~

Even if tx died right now i would get emunand for homebrew with no risk of ban and OFW for online for the few pennies I spent a year ago. It could die as a piracy tool but as a homebrew enabler already did what it had to do.

 

[fst312]

I don’t have sxos but does it really matter if they use sept, think about it, how long would it have really took to get any cfw without atmosphere. If atmosphere wasn’t open source way before it’s release, there’s a big/small chance there wouldn’t have been a cfw till the official release of atmosphere. That’s why I think reinx ended up using sept because it’s based off of atmosphere, so if tx uses it, there shouldn’t be a problem.

 

[charlieb]

Coldboot exploit

So use ChoiDujourNX as so many others do and play your games. I've done that to two of my switches, and will downgrade if a Coldboot exploit is released.

It might never get released so why wait when u have options?

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I don’t have sxos but does it really matter if they use sept, think about it, how long would it have really took to get any cfw without atmosphere. If atmosphere wasn’t open source way before it’s release, there’s a big/small chance there wouldn’t have been a cfw till the official release of atmosphere. That’s why I think reinx ended up using sept because it’s based off of atmosphere, so if tx uses it, there shouldn’t be a problem.

Reinx is free whereas sx is not so you're paying a d should expect them to support the new FW.