Hacking CONFIRMED: No roadblocks for 7.0.1 Support on SXOS

[notimp]

plenty of people pay for illegal cable tv hookups..

And thats exactly the crowd you never want in homebrew/hacking forums to begin with.

Those people pay for most easy, and not to have to look at technical details. Then they feel entitled, because they paid. (And abuse free and open software maintainers, because they dont unterstand how to behave anymore. They paid. Someone. Now they want support. From someone.) Then they get press statements with and I counted 5 factual lies in them - that tell everyone, why censoring public opinion is now a necessity.

("To save the children..." its always to safe the children... from them bad words.)

I thank Team TX to have opened forums just for that crowd. Where they can talk about conspiracy theories mustered up by them other folks, jelly of all them features all day. As long as I dont have to read it in every thread around here, I'm fine.

Once in a while I even find it funny to read "you wouldnt believe what great things they still have planned for the system" announcements and laugh about them.

If you've learned how to work a crowd, you really cant read that and not do.

 

[mrjoshuaco]

then you agree with me.

Sure, but for different reasons. That they won't care is where we agree. That they won't care and have an understanding or any practical awareness (beyond "some hacker shit" at best) of current OSS offerings...well, we don't.

Googling ''how to hack your switch'' brings up many, many other sites and videos on how to do so (that aren't GBAtemp).. so potential SX OS customers *HAVE* to be aware there are free ways to do it, but potentially choose the plug and play aspect with SX OS as it is easier and less time to get to grips with.

Actually, the top search for quite awhile (second to switch fortnite hacks, which in fairness, may have opened some OSS exposure to Average Joe) as it related to switch piracy was "switch modchip", which was, and still is, full of TX references. Then again, I'd have to go down the rabbit hole to source it, but my work involved managing teams which monitored DMCA and search engine term ranks (was a VERY large media company), so I remember this one popping up in a report, because we had some IP in the space. Really, don't overestimate the normies here that are utterly uninformed - I'd still wager they're the majority, as they always have been. There's a reason Stargate lasted as many years as it did. I'll concede, however, that it's entirely likely the landscape has changed and users over the past 6 months are exposed in a very different fashion as events start to mature. So maybe it's possible there's a shift as folks were exposed to the scene from the 3DS days to OSS CFW, and I'd wager a decent amount of cross-pollination exists here. Eh, either way, not terribly important in the long run.

That is why even if TX were to use the ''sept'' loader and have it display on screen, I cannot see ANY revenus loss for them going forward due to new users then knowing about freeware alternatives. Even if all the existing SX OS owners jumped CFW, TX already have their money.. it's not like TX are charging monthly fees for support for SX OS owners.. so there is no more revenue to be garnered from existing SX OS users.

Yeah, we agree on that count. The primary wad has likely been blown, tho I'm sure they're still seeing pretty solid sales. Anyway, if you disagree, that's fine. I'm not going to get that far into the weeds arguing something when we both reach the same conclusion - that inclusion of Sept really doesn't hurt them in the least. It's a curious choice by them, I look forward to the next few weeks.

 

[Kubas_inko]

does emunand even care?
I had to do a 8 hour long process to transfer the emunand to the sysnand, and eventually, everyone using a emunand will do the same because sooner than late it will become obsolete like it did on 3DS era
Unless you want to avoid getting banned even if you broke terms of use of the switch which you accepted when turning on for first time, it's completely useless, the Switch have a coldboot exploit in case you brick and fuses aren't a problem at this point

I don't think that it will become irrelevant when talking about the switch. Unlike 3DS where ninty was unable to check if you own a game and EmuNAND was used for safety reasons, you "need" EmuNAND on switch to not get banned (for most people; I have been using nsps since the beginning and still no ban).

3DS - EmuNAND needed at first but now is totally useless
Switch - EmuNAND is useful but will be always required if you want to be safe online (on SysNAND)

 

[Bladexdsl]

when it comes to TX where they're going there are no ROADSblocks!

 

[smf]

And thats exactly the crowd you never want in homebrew/hacking forums to begin with.

The ones you don't want are the ones who cause drama with their salty opinions.

Without them SX OS would not get the coverage it does as nobody would feel the need to refute or correct inaccuracies.

that inclusion of Sept really doesn't hurt them in the least. It's a curious choice by them, I look forward to the next few weeks.

Yeah, I don't see why just copying the sept binary would hurt TX. It would stir up the trolls on here who would have orgasms while talking about how TX copied sept, but I doubt TX care one little bit about that & none of their customers will care at all.

But as there are a couple of people who have gained access to 7.x TSEC there is no saying whether they have figured out themselves how to sign sept or whether someone has sold them the key.

It's far too early to tell how it will pan out and everyone saying they are too dumb is just pushing their own distorted agenda.

 

[M7L7NK7]

If they fail to break TSEC they'll probably just use sept and thank atmosphere for the support

 

[JoeBloggs777]

A majority of SX OS users got it before free CFW.

what date are you using for free CFW? , people were using layered FS before SX was released.But as you've already posted layered FS didn't work with every game. Maybe one reason why SX sold so well at it's launch.

 

[tomazzzi]

Damn guys, you have an official announcement that the support for 7 is coming and still continue to make assomptions based on nothing..

Get a life kids..

 

[M7L7NK7]

Damn guys, you have an official announcement that the support for 7 is coming and still continue to make assomptions based on nothing..

Get a life kids..

nah yeah nah
everyone's free to discuss what they want

 

[tomazzzi]

nah yeah nah
everyone's free to discuss what they want

Sure everyone is free to spread bullshits.
Like I’m free to tell them it’s bullshits and they should instead get a life.

Move on !

 

[NFates]

Damn guys, you have an official announcement that the support for 7 is coming and still continue to make assomptions based on nothing..

Get a life kids..

Saying "assumptions based on nothing" is a huge stretch here.

The general consensus is that they were having trouble figuring out how to break TSEC. Which they likely still are.

So they waited for Atmosphere to implement support and copy (why would they always release after Atmos, and why would the current one be the longest drought between releases?). Atmosphere embedded a splash screen and the guys at TX don't want to promote the competition at every boot.

So this "no roadblocks" is probably BS to keep a good image for their oblivious users.

I have not seen anyone say SX OS already had its last update or anything, but people are bound to be skeptical about them not having trouble, and skeptical about them releasing anything at all.

 

[hippy dave]

Eh, as TX-Drama threads go, this one is a 5/10 at best. Try harder please, people!

 

[tomazzzi]

Saying "assumptions based on nothing" is a huge stretch here.

The general consensus is that they were having trouble figuring out how to break TSEC. Which they likely still are.

So they waited for Atmosphere to implement support and copy (why would they always release after Atmos, and why would the current one be the longest drought between releases?). Atmosphere embedded a splash screen and the guys at TX don't want to promote the competition at every boot.

So this "no roadblocks" is probably BS to keep a good image for their oblivious users.

I have not seen anyone say SX OS already had its last update or anything, but people are bound to be skeptical about them not having trouble, and skeptical about them releasing anything at all.

You just have no idea about what they actually can do or could release.

So yes you are making assomptions based on nothing but others users posts. ( who also have no idea what they can do either )

Call them noobs but they actually have features no one else has.

Everyone was waiting for an official statement of the team, they made it !
For now the only bullshits are on the answers of this post.
So now move on and wait.

 

[NFates]

You just have no idea about what they actually can do or could release.

So yes you are making assomptions based on nothing but others users posts. ( who also have no idea what they can do either )

Call them noobs but they actually have features no one else has.

Everyone was waiting for an official statement of the team, they made it !
For now the only bullshits are on the answers of this post.
So now move on and wait.

-Breaking TSEC is confirmed as a problem. ReSwitched needed around three weeks to publically release support and everyone else hasn't done it. The technical explanation as to why it's a problem is out there, too.

-I already provided sound reasons as to why the delay after Atmosphere released sept.

-The statement could perfectly be a bluff on their end. No one knows if they are releasing today or if they're not releasing anything again, but what I said above is facts.

 

[j2nik]

Damn guys, you have an official announcement that the support for 7 is coming and still continue to make assomptions based on nothing..

Get a life kids..

Indeed. If they had no progress or abandoned the project, I would have expected them to keep staying silent (as they have done for a LONG time now) and quietly fading away from the scene.

 

[Adran_Marit]

You just have no idea about what they actually can do or could release.

So yes you are making assomptions based on nothing but others users posts. ( who also have no idea what they can do either )

Call them noobs but they actually have features no one else has.

Everyone was waiting for an official statement of the team, they made it !
For now the only bullshits are on the answers of this post.
So now move on and wait.

Unless TX have their own tsec exploit up their sleeve which they are willing to burn which will be worse for the scene as a whole as ninty will crack down even further on security

Therefore the only option to get around this is to use Sept which is a secure encrypted payload.
If by some means TX had access to a private exploit to get the private tsec keys which only a small handful of people have, they could resign the payload without or with a splash.

Since TX do not have those keys the only option is to run sept with the atmo splash.

ReiNX will be using sept with the splash from everything I've seen.

By the way the keys sept is signed are basically nvidia's keys so tsec runs without an issue (from my understand) - Don't quote me on this last point

 

[tinkle]

Actually, if TX have to burn an exploit to release 7.0.x support for TSEC, it would honestly be SciresM's fault for obfuscating the already known exploit out of spite. Open Sores never works y'all; when you don't get paid, you crave that ego boost.

 

[ZachyCatGames]

what date are you using for free CFW? , people were using layered FS before SX was released.But as you've already posted layered FS didn't work with every game. Maybe one reason why SX sold so well at it's launch.

That feeling when people seem to think layeredFS is for piracy shit

 

[Adran_Marit]

Actually, if TX have to burn an exploit to release 7.0.x support for TSEC, it would honestly be SciresM's fault for obfuscating the already known exploit out of spite. Open Sores never works y'all; when you don't get paid, you crave that ego boost.

The code is not obscured at all, you can view it on the github. If you have the private keys you can sign it yourself, that's the only private part which is the encrypted file.

This is about preserving exploits so we still have exploits in future

 

[tinkle]

The code is not obscured at all, you can view it on the github. If you have the private keys you can sign it yourself, that's the only private part which is the encrypted file.

This is about preserving exploits so we still have exploits in future

Excuses, tbh