Hacking CONFIRMED: No roadblocks for 7.0.1 Support on SXOS

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Lacius

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Does no roadblocks mean that there were roadblocks and they got passed them. Or that there were never any roadblocks to begin with?

I would have been more at ease if they had mentioned it being "clear sailing" however i realize that this particular saying in conjunction with the roadblock one may seem to convolute the metaphorical travel.

Perhaps i should ask on their forum about this to clear it up, I'll mention the mods hopefully they won't make have to get belligerent with them.
It's important to be skeptical of what they say. This could be the message about ipatched system support all over again.
 

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To me it comes down to this on the switch scene either your a free source CFW leech that reapeats everything you read without any first hand proof or your a CFW product buyer that gets shit on by free source people that are either salty they can’t afford said product or its features are not on there free source CFW.

Regardless in the end both camps should stfu as none of you complaining,finger pointing baby’s write code or developed anything for the scene or make a dime off there development at all.

It people like the ones on this forum complaining and repeating rumors with no first hand account of it validity that push out all the good devs out of the scenes eventually and make them toxic
 

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Because of this announcement, I think it's more likely than not that TX is going to come out with something for 7.0.x. However, there's still good reason to be skeptical. People can go back through my posts from earlier today to see why I say that.

because you like the sound of your own voice?

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Yoshi's Crafted World will likely require 7.0/7.0.1 when that releases.

first speculation I've seen you post which is most likely true.
 

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How is someone saying something on a website confirming anything, now I don't own SXOS because I think it is incredibly stupid to pay for piracy, in fact it kind of goes against what piracy is all about.

plenty of people pay for illegal cable tv hookups..

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Just when we were on a non-toxic conversation.. Lol

EDIT: gbatemp FTW

sorry.. timezone differences, I'm catching up on all the bullshit from last night.

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How can you start your post certain they are roadblocks and then bury that maybe you're wrong in the middle of the post?

They could be lying of course, but only time will tell. Think how you would feel if literally every time you spoke then someone just started shouting at you saying you were lying?

smf - unfortunately that is what GBAtemp has devolved into.


I guess you haven't been around long, there have been piracy (AKA backup) products since the 1980's. SX OS has functionality that free solutions don't have, so if you care enough about those features and have money then buying it is not a stupid decision at all.

True.. the children on here have no idea of the history of commercial backup devices and / or software - I had an ISEPIC in 1985, then an Action Replay mk III and later a mk V, I had an Action Replay 1 on my Amiga A500, I bought a 1541 parallel drive mod to bit copy C64 floppy disks. One of my mates had a Doctor 64 and various other SNES and N64 cartridge hardware copiers. Software wise I had bought a few different Amiga floppy copiers and lastly a Kyroflux floppy disk interface where I can directly copy any floppy disk with protection as well as restore an identical bit for bit copy to a new floppy.

I bought SX OS in July 2018 because I saw the ease of use functionality that it provided and I'm not poor enough to think that the $30 USD was a waste of money, even if support for SX OS stopped today.
 

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plenty of people pay for illegal cable tv hookups..

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sorry.. timezone differences, I'm catching up on all the bullshit from last night.

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smf - unfortunately that is what GBAtemp has devolved into.




True.. the children on here have no idea of the history of commercial backup devices and / or software - I had an ISEPIC in 1985, then an Action Replay mk III and later a mk V, I had an Action Replay 1 on my Amiga A500, I bought a 1541 parallel drive mod to bit copy C64 floppy disks. One of my mates had a Doctor 64 and various other SNES and N64 cartridge hardware copiers. Software wise I had bought a few different Amiga floppy copiers and lastly a Kyroflux floppy disk interface where I can directly copy any floppy disk with protection as well as restore an identical bit for bit copy to a new floppy.

I bought SX OS in July 2018 because I saw the ease of use functionality that it provided and I'm not poor enough to think that the $30 USD was a waste of money, even if support for SX OS stopped today.

As end-users, that's it.
 

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The main reason for the delay is that TX would have to break TSEC to get 7.0.x support. Now that sept is out, I would think it would be the path of least resistance, but it's odd they haven't used it. It leads me to believe that either:
  1. They don't plan on updating SX OS to support 7.0.x.
  2. The Atmosphere logo would be too damaging to their business model that necessitates ignorance of free custom firmwares.

in regards to point 2 - I doubt there are many SX OS users or potential who do not realise there are free custom firmwares available.. so whereas if TX did use 'Sept' it might harm perception of in house development and support for SX OS, I cannot see it losing TX any money from their existing customers.

It is the extra features of SX OS and ease of use which generally attracts customers to purchase the licence, not just the being able to run backups (google ''switch backups'' and you'll hit hundreds of links to videos, how to and discussions where free CFW is the main discussion).
 

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in regards to point 2 - I doubt there are many SX OS users or potential who do not realise there are free custom firmwares available.. so whereas if TX did use 'Sept' it might harm perception of in house development and support for SX OS, I cannot see it losing TX any money from their existing customers.

It is the extra features of SX OS and ease of use which generally attracts customers to purchase the licence, not just the being able to run backups (google ''switch backups'' and you'll hit hundreds of links to videos, how to and discussions where free CFW is the main discussion).
A majority of SX OS users got it before free CFW.
 

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does emunand even care?
I had to do a 8 hour long process to transfer the emunand to the sysnand, and eventually, everyone using a emunand will do the same because sooner than late it will become obsolete like it did on 3DS era
Unless you want to avoid getting banned even if you broke terms of use of the switch which you accepted when turning on for first time, it's completely useless, the Switch have a coldboot exploit in case you brick and fuses aren't a problem at this point
 

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A majority of SX OS users got it before free CFW.

from the very few metrics we have available yes. It would be interesting to find out what continued sales have been like, I wonder if any of the resellers would care to comment (even anonymously) how their sales of SX OS licences / SX OS Pro have been over the past 9 months.

I agree though that yes the majority of SX OS owners would have bought before free CFW was available, sales would have continued with XCI and easy NSP support initially. But free CFW eventually became easier to use.

Going forward, if free CFW had emuNAND support I would consider changing to a solution with 7.x compatibility. I would miss XCI support as would I miss USB HDD support for storing / loading XCI / installing NSP / data store for ROMs for emulators.
 
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I doubt there are many SX OS users or potential who do not realise there are free custom firmwares available.

I said earlier in this thread and I'll say it again. GBAtemp forums are a bubble, and a small one at that. You make up the minority of this scene. The overwhelming majority of their customers almost assuredly know nothing of these forums, much less what the fuck Atmosphere is. Even when the 3DS guide was mature and support had ended, there were still substantial quantities of users showing up without a clue about the freeware solutions. These people hear about the commercial project and set it up and use their website for updates - at BEST they use the TX forums and may hear about it but even I'd say that still nowhere near a decent portion of the user base. It's a plug and play piracy solution - they don't especially share our interest in the inner workings, much less the drama and on-going saga of this scene.
 
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I won't name names, but even some more established people who got into the Switch scene a bit late and found it hard to put all the disparate infomation together bought the SX first because it seemed like the simplest solution at the time, then moved on once they found out there were other solutions.
 
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I said earlier in this thread and I'll say it again. GBAtemp forums are a bubble, and a small one at that. You make up the minority of this scene. The overwhelming majority of their customers almost assuredly know nothing of these forums, much less what the fuck Atmosphere is. Even when the 3DS guide was mature and support had ended, there were still substantial quantities of users showing up without a clue about the freeware solutions. These people hear about the commercial project and set it up and use their website for updates - at BEST they use the TX forums and may hear about it but even I'd say that still nowhere near a decent portion of the user base. It's a plug and play piracy solution - they don't especially share our interest in the inner workings, much less the drama and on-going saga of this scene.

So taking my full original post into context:

"in regards to point 2 - I doubt there are many SX OS users or potential who do not realise there are free custom firmwares available.. so whereas if TX did use 'Sept' it might harm perception of in house development and support for SX OS, I cannot see it losing TX any money from their existing customers."

then you agree with me.


Googling ''how to hack your switch'' brings up many, many other sites and videos on how to do so (that aren't GBAtemp).. so potential SX OS customers *HAVE* to be aware there are free ways to do it, but potentially choose the plug and play aspect with SX OS as it is easier and less time to get to grips with. That is why even if TX were to use the ''sept'' loader and have it display on screen, I cannot see ANY revenus loss for them going forward due to new users then knowing about freeware alternatives. Even if all the existing SX OS owners jumped CFW, TX already have their money.. it's not like TX are charging monthly fees for support for SX OS owners.. so there is no more revenue to be garnered from existing SX OS users.
 
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