Hacking Best way to emunand?

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No, I agree with you. I wasnt saying nintendo DOES this, I said it CAN be done, and IS being done by other companies...

On Android, Pokémon go expicitly askes permission from you to view files on the sd card. Is this in the case in the EULA/TOS/other agreement of the Switch?
 

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Sorry to butt in, I'm thinking of making an emunand for the first time. I already have lots of nsps on my sd card - if I choose the partition then these will all be deleted, is this correct? And if I just use it with the emunand on the sd card this won't happen?
This is how I was setup. You’ll lose your NSPs. Back up your saves with checkpoint. If you have multiple users, back those saves up as well. I’m not sure how to backup users, so I had to recreate the second user on my switch. I’m currently unable to restore the saves of the second user, as I can’t seem to restore that user to even begin.
 
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On Android, Pokémon go expicitly askes permission from you to view files on the sd card. Is this in the case in the EULA/TOS/other agreement of the Switch?

I think youre missing the point. Even if you-deny- Niantic and pokemon go the ability to read the microsd card, they still read it anyways. Thats the entire point being made. It doesnt matter if nintendo or anyone else asks or not. The point is companies are already reading your storage even if you explicitly deny them the right to do so. I personally have pokemon go denied every single access permission except gps, which it needs to operate. And i can confirm as soon as i put even an empty magisk folder with nothing in it on my microsd, pokemon go blocks my access. Its literally that simple. I dont understand why this is so hard to grasp for some.

1) No permission given.
2) in fact, permission explicitly denied.
3) card is still read and analyzed.
4) negative actions rendered.

If you honestly dont think nintendo cant do this, with their own hardware and software -they- built, then bless your soul.

Right now they dont seem to be doing it, and again, ill reiterate, i hope they maintain that policy. But you arent going to win an argument that they dont have the ability to do so, its flat out being done already in even less conducive situations without the end user's permission. End of story.
 

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This is how I was setup. You’ll lose your NSPs. Back up your saves with checkpoint. If you have multiple users, back those saves up as well. I’m not sure how to backup users, so I had to recreate the second user on my switch. I’m currently unable to restore the saves of the second user, as I can’t seem to restore that user to even begin.
Thanks for taking the time to reply. I've never used checkpoint before so will just make the emunand on the sd card (without partition) so I don't need to reinstall all my nsps etc. Cheers!
 
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I think youre missing the point. Even if you-deny- Niantic and pokemon go the ability to read the microsd card, they still read it anyways. Thats the entire point being made. It doesnt matter if nintendo or anyone else asks or not. The point is companies are already reading your storage even if you explicitly deny them the right to do so. I personally have pokemon go denied every single access permission except gps, which it needs to operate. And i can confirm as soon as i put even an empty magisk folder with nothing in it on my microsd, pokemon go blocks my access. Its literally that simple. I dont understand why this is so hard to grasp for some.

1) No permission given.
2) in fact, permission explicitly denied.
3) card is still read and analyzed.
4) negative actions rendered.

If you honestly dont think nintendo cant do this, with their own hardware and software -they- built, then bless your soul.

Right now they dont seem to be doing it, and again, ill reiterate, i hope they maintain that policy. But you arent going to win an argument that they dont have the ability to do so, its flat out being done already in even less conducive situations without the end user's permission. End of story.
That's because if you don't hide Magisk from the game it notices that. Google's SafetyNet has literally nothing to do with this. The game checks root priveleges if it suddenly gets further than intended on non-root devices it won't log you in. I've played Pokemon Go with Magisk and no problem at all.
 

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When using hidden patition and installing nsp it asks me if I want to install on microSD or system console, what answer should be the better ?
I was wondering the same thing. Does that option install to the real system storage? or is there system storage built into the emu nand?
 

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I was wondering the same thing. Does that option install to the real system storage? or is there system storage built into the emu nand?

Emunand is a 1:1 copy of your nand on a sd card. It also has the free space your ofw nand has. The emunand takes up 32gb on your sd but it has "free space" reserved within. So if you choose to install in system storage when on emunand it fills out the "free space" on your emunand.
 
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I was wondering the same thing. Does that option install to the real system storage? or is there system storage built into the emu nand?

To answer your question simply, whether you choose system installation or microsd installation -while on emunand- does not matter. Both options, while inside emunand, install to the microsd to put it simply.

In other words, if you're on emunand and choose to install to system storage, it will not install to the -normal ofw system storage-. It will install to the MICROSD emulated system storage, which is separate from the ofw system memory nand.
 
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If you just wanted to play roms, theoretically shouldn't LAKKA be 100% safe, as it doesn't touch the NAND at all? Not that LAKKA doesn't have bugs and drawbacks :P.
 

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if you're on emunand and choose to install to system storage, it will not install to the -normal ofw system storage-.

There is a difference I believe. If you choose to install to the emulated NAND (system storage) it will not reduce free space on your sd-card.

@Jackson98 isn't an xci dump from a switch game called a rom?
 
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There is a difference I believe. If you choose to install to the emulated NAND (system storage) it will not reduce free space on your sd-card.

@Jackson98 isn't an xci dump from a switch game called a rom?

If you install to system storage under emunand, the usable space on the overall microsd will not decrease as the emunand is already the nand's allocated size. But that wasn't the question.
 

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There is a difference I believe. If you choose to install to the emulated NAND (system storage) it will not reduce free space on your sd-card.

@Jackson98 isn't an xci dump from a switch game called a rom?


Technically :P, although many refer to roms as retro cartridge dumps ;), as was intended by me, when refering to switch dumps people tend generalise it as piracy.
The only reason I suggested LAKKA was because in my opinion it would be the hardest form of homebrew for Nintendo to detect and a small concern for them, the fact it runs a completely different OS and doesn't touch the NAND at all, including the fact it doesn't allow piracy of Nintendo current generation titles.
Im not saying that running a seperate emunand and sysnand for on/offline purpuses isn't very minimal risk now, as for the recent future though this method has me much more paranoid.
 
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Creating a hidden partition will not allow you to install .nsp or .xci to "system storage". You'll get an error if you install one and run it. That's the only thing I noticed with the hidden partition..
 
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I assumed the hidden partition worked the same as the emunand on exfat. I use the last one and I first utilized all of the emunand reserved space to install backups. When there was less than 500 mb free space on emunand I started installing on the remaining sd free space.
 

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