Your favourite historical period?

[FAST6191]

Got to love those descriptive titles. Still going for a discussion of your favourite historical period and location for learning about, free reign on how you define that (can even use European dark ages if you like). Some leeway if you care more for specific aspects -- just technology, just the religions, just the ecology, military...

Myself I will probably watch/read about anything -- yesterday I watched a video on pancho villa because why not. Never heard of the guy before and most Mexican history for me is "there was a thing with Texas I guess before it was a state and not too long after as well, oh yeah Napoleon did something there once as well", and while I don't cherish my lack of knowledge there it is one I don't see actively seeing about removing any time soon.


As far as actual favourites. If am allowed tech from above then I will do tech of any time, though the rise of European industry (especially of metals) going back to the 1500s is probably where it really kicks in for me -- any cool technique from ancient times they used to create such things I will pay attention to, and a treasured book I have is a 1950s book (albeit 1950s nostalgia for the height of the British Empire) called the smith which details all the various world cultures and how they made things. Similarly my general engineering books go back to around 1870 and I will go through dominant ideas, standards and more from then until present happily.
I quite like world war 2 but having done it for so many years in school I will take anything I was not bored to death with there -- d-day is a fascinating thing, especially the logistics, path to it, and more besides, but I just don't care any more, same for the fall of France and Stalingrad.
Not World War 2 but same goes for Henry the 8th and his descendants, also the Victorians.

Ancient Greece and Rome I quite like. Somehow school did not cure me of my desire to learn more there but they don't quite reach favourite. Their mythology though is something I have a better handle on than any more middle ages stuff (technically Christianity is supposed to be 2000 years old, older still if you count the stuff it borrowed, but most of Europe did not fall/do the Christianization bit for quite a while, and even then it took quite a while for it really take hold). Speaking of middle ages when discussing the history of fantasy a phrase I quite liked was in response to the question of when did the fascination with, and romanticisation of, the middle ages start, the answer being about 5 minutes after it finished, and that means it is rather played out for me.

China is not bad but after the dynasties and end thereof I don't find much to really look at. Sure they probably invented quite a lot of stuff before many others but eh really as they did so little with it. I imagine in 100 years we will be looking back at what is going to become far more important to history but this is history thread and not future history thread.

I really like the 70s through 90s and how it impacts things we see today. I know such things almost immediately have to go back to world war 1 and maybe the 1890s as well (we skip further back for war if we want to consider the US civil war as the first actually modern affair) but I will draw the cutoff at the points form the previous sentence. This becomes even more so given the endless amount of pictures, literary, fairly hard data and more things we have from that period to play with.

I know most of the history of the British Empire (not necessarily through school either -- speaking to those in their 50s and 60s now most of what they had was empire and how we were robbed of it, I had next to nothing other than it was a thing) so don't much care there, however the history of places it had before it came along with some flags and offers rulers could not refuse do a lot for me -- the Mughals in India for one, South Africa (though being part of the scramble for Africa I will take the whole thing if I can)

Of the various books on my bed right now one is Guns, Germs and Steel. Amazing book for me and if I had a magic back in time seeing portal (that could also condense things/pick out the interesting bits) I probably would go look at the development of agriculture and domestication of animals before just about anything else, even the metals and tech stuff.

 

[Flame]

the future. year 2020. i have perfect vision. i finally hit bullseye

jokes aside.


just before Rome fell. i know this is made out by movies and tv shows but damn Rome chicks were fine. how times have changed.

or when the good Scots were fighting for they independents from us evil English men. in the late 13th and early 14th centuries. i know this is made out by movies and tv shows but damn Scot chicks were fine. how times have changed.

 

[DinohScene]

World war II.
Generally, 1870-present.

I love history tho.

 

[SAIYAN48]

Ancient and Classical. Plus the far future. Roma Aeterna!

 

[Chary]

Oh that's hard to choose! The WWII era 30s are pretty interesting. So is ye old wild west Texas. Probably the most interesting to me is the height of the Persian empire, like, the 500s BC.

 

[SG854]

This is not how average people talked back then. Pretty interesting.



For me Time of the dinosaurs.

 

[The Catboy]

America before European expansions

 

[SG854]

America before European expansions

Before European expansion, like seeing the human sacrifices of Aztecs, see what it was like.

Or even Egyptian times see how pyramids were built. Or Ancient Greece how people lived and behaved.

 

[The Catboy]

Before European expansion, like seeing the human sacrifices of Aztecs, see what it was like.

That's only one culture out of the countless cultures that used to exist at that time. Plus, Europeans were also doing something very similar in the name of Christianity. As in, literally killing people in the name of the Christian God. Even though it wasn't, "We are killing this guy so the sun raises in the morning," it was, "We are killing this guy to prove that we have the true God."

 

[SG854]

That's only one culture out of the countless cultures that used to exist at that time. Plus, Europeans were also doing something very similar in the name of Christianity. As in, literally killing people in the name of the Christian God. Even though it wasn't, "We are killing this guy so the sun raises in the morning," it was, "We are killing this guy to prove that we have the true God."

Yes

 

[kuwanger]

It's a hard question to answer. A sort of meta answer is to answer today because one could by proxy learn about history of the past. But as Lilith Valentine points out, our history of the past is very incomplete and biased--even though a lot of effort in recent times has tried to correct that, it can't fill in for data that doesn't exist--which means one could speak of a hypothetical historical overview that covering a historical period in detail like modern history books do that would include such information. For that, I'd be most interested in the development and evolution of the spoken word which reaches into prehistory. Having said that, it's still a toss up with today as there's just so much varied information about electronics/computing which I find rather fascinating.

 

[Grmmish]

Today: Because you're in it. <3

 

[xpoverzion]

Jewish history from 1500BC to the present, because if you don't know their history, it's impossible to fully understand any other history involving western civilization.

For example... Julius Caesar's military campaigns were bank rolled by a Jewish banker from spain named Lucius Balbus. When Caesar died, Balbus met with Octavian, and bank rolled his cause against Mark Antony and Cleopatra VII. Cleopatra was an enemy of the Jews at the time, so this is the reason that Octavian got huge financial backing from the "tribe" and a big reason why he defeted Antony at Actium 31BC. Hardly anything happens in history without the financial backing from those that want to see their political, social, and economic ambitions seen through. Trace the money trail, and 99% of the time it leads to the Jews all throughout western history. Therefore, if you don't read about their history, it's impossible to really understand the truth behind WHY things happened the way they did throughout western history.

Oh, and you will never find the above details in any history book that is written by gentiles for mainstream consumption. These details come from history books that are written by Jewish historians, Rabbis, etc, for a jewish audience. It is what it is. So if you love history, especially western history, you really don't have a full understanding of it until you read Jewish history as well.

 

[SG854]

It's a hard question to answer. A sort of meta answer is to answer today because one could by proxy learn about history of the past. But as Lilith Valentine points out, our history of the past is very incomplete and biased--even though a lot of effort in recent times has tried to correct that, it can't fill in for data that doesn't exist--which means one could speak of a hypothetical historical overview that covering a historical period in detail like modern history books do that would include such information. For that, I'd be most interested in the development and evolution of the spoken word which reaches into prehistory. Having said that, it's still a toss up with today as there's just so much varied information about electronics/computing which I find rather fascinating.

Right, filling books with too much history will be annoyingly long.

I would like to see the evolution of language, and visit different points in history. And see many different human species that existed.

 

[Sonic Angel Knight]

Edo period Japan.

 

[SG854]

Jewish history from 1500BC to the present, because if you don't know their history, it's impossible to fully understand any other history involving western civilization.

For example... Julius Caesar's military campaigns were bank rolled by a Jewish banker from spain named Lucius Balbus. When Caesar died, Balbus met with Octavian, and bank rolled his cause against Mark Antony and Cleopatra VII. Cleopatra was an enemy of the Jews at the time, so this is the reason that Octavian got huge financial backing from the "tribe" and a big reason why he defeted Antony at Actium 31BC. Hardly anything happens in history without the financial backing from those that want to see their political, social, and economic ambitions seen through. Trace the money trail, and 99% of the time it leads to the Jews all throughout western history. Therefore, if you don't read about their history, it's impossible to really understand the truth behind WHY things happened the way they did throughout western history.

Oh, and you will never find the above details in any history book that is written by gentiles for mainstream consumption. These details come from history books that are written by Jewish historians, Rabbis, etc, for a jewish audience. It is what it is. So if you love history, especially western history, you really don't have a full understanding of it until you read Jewish history as well.

A little too much emphasis on the Jews there buddy. Middle Men are such a misunderstood position.

 

[xpoverzion]

A little too much emphasis on the Jews there buddy. Middle Men are such a misunderstood position.

It is what it is. I'm not talking about middle men. If you consider the most powerful bankers and businessmen in the world to be middle men, then I guess no amount of education can help you.

Besides, I'm just the messenger. I didn't write these books. If you want help understanding how and why the world works the way it does, you can start by reading "A History of The Jews" by Solomon Grayzel. The opening paragraph in the book states, "Many people think that the history of the Jews is that of a people that is far from the main stages of western civilization. To the contrayr, hardly a single important event throughout western history has happened, that a Jew was not involved." -- Solomon Grayzel

It is what it is... If you love history, you should look into books like these. This is where you find the truth. Otherwise if a gentile were to write half of the stuff that you find in these books, they would instantly be branded an "anti-semite" and their careers as a historian would be ruined.

 

[TheMrIron2]

There are so many good answers to this one. I'd like to say 1940-1960 though. Aside from the Cold War, which was starting around then, it was a brilliant transitional period with the advent of some modern technology and lots of social change. Also, a great time for anyone who liked music.

 

[SG854]

It is what it is. I'm not talking about middle men. If you consider the most powerful bankers and businessmen in the world to be middle men, then I guess no amount of education can help you.

Besides, I'm just the messenger. I didn't write these books. If you want help understanding how and why the world works the way it does, you can start by reading "A History of The Jews" by Solomon Grayzel. The opening paragraph in the book states, "Many people think that the history of the Jews is that of a people that is far from the main stages of western civilization. To the contrayr, hardly a single important event throughout western history has happened, that a Jew was not involved." -- Solomon Grayzel

It is what it is... If you love history, you should look into books like these. This is where you find the truth. Otherwise if a gentile were to write half of the stuff that you find in these books, they would instantly be branded an "anti-semite" and their careers as a historian would be ruined.

Jewish people moved up in society by first starting off as middle men. And Middle Men are commonly universally hated in many cultures.

Like the Armenians in the Ottoman Empire, Ibows in Nigeria, Chinese of South East Asia, and Lebanese of West Africa and Brazil.

The same attitudes people have towards the Jews are the same attitudes people had on other groups of people for the same reasoning they used on the Jews. And some of them have been massacred too because of people’s misunderstanding of their important economic role in society.

They see Middle Men charging interests and hiking prices and they are called bloodsuckers, parasites, exploiters. Since they don’t produce or create anything, they just buy stuff, resell them as middle men, and work with money as bankers.

There has been societies that chased middle men minorities out, like the Indians and Pakistanis from Uganda in the 70’s, and after the Ugandan economy collapsed. Same happened when Jews were chased out at different time periods in Europe, and the Middle Men from Asia. People don’t understand how important they are to the Economy.

People say they took over businesses and banks, but many of these businesses and banks wouldn’t have existed without them creating it in the first place.

 

[xpoverzion]

Ok. You're right. So when a bunch of little middle men want a country in 1947, the worlds super powers bend over backwards to give it to them. Then when middle men want nuclear bombs, the worlds super power happily gives it to them in 1953 before any other allies recieve them. Oh, and Russia of course got the secrets to the bomb much early courtesy of the Rosenbergs, validating yet again, Grayzels claim in his book. Then when the middle men want protection for their little hobby nation, the worlds super power spends trillions upon trillions in tax dollars to protect thier little nation from others in the region. Meanwhile, Americans can't even get 5 billion to protect their own southern border. And no, I'm not a conservative, liberal, or anything for that matter. Just making a point that should make anybody question what's going on.

Hmmm... I don't see the Armenian, ibows, Chinese, indians, pakistanis, or Lebanese middle men getting the same preferential treatment. Do you think it's possible that the "middle men" might have the same human desires and behaviors for nationalism, greed, power, control, manipulation, etc, just like any other peoples/nations/humans on the planet??? Or do you think they are the only humans on the planet that have no nationalistic, imperial, religeous, or power politc ambitions? It just so happens that these middle men happen to be some of the most zealous people in the world in regards to their nationalism, religion, politics, etc.. I would think that the bestowment of a nation and nukes for these innocent little middle men would be enough evidence that there is more going on than them just altruistically lending, buying and selling goods, all for the betterment of everybodies economies.