Charlottesville killer James Fields found guilty of all charges, faces six life sentences

[Xzi]

http://www.nbc12.com/2018/12/07/man-who-plowed-into-charlottesville-crowd-found-guilty/

Not much to say about this one, justice served. Glad the judge and jury didn't buy into flimsy excuses of self-defense.

 

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He's obviously mentally ill, but you can't go round doing stuff like that.

 

[gameboy]

all government propaganda

 

[Xzi]

all government propaganda

The government propaganda was that there were "very fine people" on both sides of this killing.

 

[smf]

The government propaganda was that there were "very fine people" on both sides of this killing.

On both sides of the violence, I don't think even he is dumb enough to think it was both sides of the killing.

And he may have a point, like there were fine people on both sides of world war 2. It doesn't mean that fighting against the far right is wrong.

 

[Xzi]

On both sides of the violence, I don't think even he is dumb enough to think it was both sides of the killing.

It can be interpreted either way. Since Trump never speaks in complete thoughts or sentences, we'll probably never know for sure.

And he may have a point, like there were fine people on both sides of world war 2.

Yikes, might want to re-think that statement. The US has never been perfect by any measure, but at least we have yet to attempt genocide. The only 'fine people' in the axis powers were those that refused to follow morally reprehensible orders, and those that tried to assist their fellow man without violence.

 

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It can be interpreted either way. Since Trump never speaks in complete thoughts or sentences, we'll probably never know for sure.

I'm not sure if he does that so he can "clarify" everything afterwards, or he's just dumb.

Yikes, might want to re-think that statement. The US has never been perfect by any measure, but at least we have yet to attempt genocide.

You can't know that everyone who was on the other side supported genocide.

Like not all americans supported napalm in vietnam or nuclear bombs on japan etc.

Racism is an inherent human trait.

 

[Xzi]

I'm not sure if he does that so he can "clarify" everything afterwards, or he's just dumb.

He never does come back to clarify previous statements, so it's likely the latter.

You can't know that everyone who was on the other side supported genocide.

Like not all americans supported napalm in vietnam or nuclear bombs on japan etc.

Yeah I elaborated a bit further on what I meant by that.

 

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Yeah I elaborated a bit further on what I meant by that.

A lot of germans saw hitler in the same way americans see trump, they both promised to sort the country out because they were better than everyone else. Paraphrasing Stewart Lee. Not all the people that voted for hitler and trump were racists, some of them were cunts. But maybe they think they are nice people too & in some ways they probably are. But that is true for all cunts.

 

[Xzi]

Racism is an inherent human trait.

I suppose I'd agree with that, but I'd also posit that some of us clearly have an easier time overcoming our baser instincts than others. Not every state is Mississippi, after all.

 

[smf]

I suppose I'd agree with that, but I'd also posit that some of us clearly have an easier time overcoming our baser instincts than others. Not every state is Mississippi, after all.

It's practically impossible to overcome them completely, because it affects your perception in ways that you don't even notice.

It goes in both directions and it's harder to overcome them if you feel hard done by, which causes feedback into the system.

All you can do is make racism illegal and hope it all calms down. Free speech is highly overrated.

 

[Navonod]

Bernie and Hillary supporters are the biggest cunts honestly.

 

[kuwanger]

The US has never been perfect by any measure, but at least we have yet to attempt genocide.

I guess it depends on if you think the California Genocide counts. There's also a lot of less direct acts that were definitely at least borderline genocide. Having said that, yes, Germany went full-on genocide. It's definitely hard to compare the systematic, industrial murder of millions to more general policy that may lead to the same end. I'll just go as far as to say both were very, very wrong.

 

[Arecaidian Fox]

Good, the man deserves to never set foot on free soil again. Fuck Nazis, fuck Trump.

 

[Navonod]

Good, the man deserves to never set foot on free soil again. Fuck Nazis, fuck Trump.

What did Trump have to do with anything? Other than being President?

 

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Bernie and Hillary supporters are the biggest cunts honestly.

You have some cognitive bias going on there.

 

[Xzi]

What did Trump have to do with anything? Other than being President?

Other than failing to condemn a murderer (biggest softball any president can get), he has nothing to do with this case.

Wouldn't be surprised to see Trump tweet some sort of defense of this guy after the guilty verdict, either.

 

[Navonod]

You have some cognitive bias going on there.

Nice sarcasm I love it. But I would argue that we both have a bias here. But from what I've read and seen from the left is if they don't like something then they want it banned. If a righty doesn't like something then it doesn't bother them. Unless they are religious and don't like the gays.

Being a gay person myself they do annoy me. But I don't see them as enemies. Just misinformed buttheads.

 

[Viri]

I don't care how "mentally ill" you are, if you murder people, you deserve life in prison. No excuses.

 

[smf]

But from what I've read and seen from the left is if they don't like something then they want it banned.

That is pretty normal. You don't like murder, you ban it. You don't like rape, you ban it.

You're suggesting that there is something inherently wrong with the things they don't like, but that is subjective.

If a righty doesn't like something then it doesn't bother them.

Like abortion?