Hacking How come SX OS hasn't been updated yet?

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They'll likely release an update eventually and the only reason to update right now is if you want online anyway. If you don't care about online you can just not update, if you do, you can try the emunand and update the switch anyway, launching the switch into emunand if you need the cfw.
 

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Stop blaming people for updating their consoles when TX still claims this:
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Front page since Nov. 27th has picture and news story saying DONT UPDATE TO 6.20
 
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Ok, fuckface. Stop calling someone names out of the blue. It really doesn't help your argument (Yes, the irony of this sentence is not beyond me and intentional)

No worries shit for breath, you can stop talking crap now.


The link says to click here if in doubt. But what if I am not in doubt?
Manufactured before June 2018? Launch console - check! Any Firmware version? 6.20 - check! No doubts here, are there?

Then you would be - WRONG! Oh wait.. you're still talking crap.

If you are NOT IN DOUBT then you would KNOW that 6.20 firmware is not supported. If you are NOT IN DOUBT and didn't check then you would be WRONG and STUPID. You would also have a 6.2 firmware Switch where you couldn't run SX OS on, because it STATES ON THEIR WEB SITE that 6.20 is not supported.

It's like NOT reading small print on any advertisement or contract. If you don't then you are a fool.


The fact remains that it's falsely advertised and so people complain. Telling people to stop complaining will get you nowhere, nor do you have the authority to do so.
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No false advertising at all, it's all there and if fools haven't read it then the onus is on them. Same goes for every contract or ardvertising blurb - it is the duty of the purchaser to investigate to make sure the prospective purchase is fit for purpose. It's why we take second hand cars to be checked at a mechanic before we purchase, why we have houses inspected before purchase and why we read all the paperwork before committing to mobile phone plans or finance.
 
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Front page since Nov. 27th has picture and news story saying DONT UPDATE TO 6.20
But not the page https://sx.xecuter.com/ which is the first result in google (at least for me) when searching for SX OS. People are typically not interested in the hacking group, but in the product, and thus will likely not search for the hacking group "team xecutor", but the product "SX OS".

(Also, if you are here, "Every SX Pro ships with one free license for SX OS." is completely wrong, as the dongle is "SX Gear" and costs less, so you should write "one licence for SX OS included")
If you are NOT IN DOUBT then you would KNOW that 6.20 firmware is not supported. If you are NOT IN DOUBT and didn't check then you would be WRONG and STUPID. You would also have a 6.2 firmware Switch where you couldn't run SX OS on, because it STATES ON THEIR WEB SITE that 6.20 is not supported
It doesn't on the first web site you visit when looking for SX OS. Also, SX OS is targeted for non-experts, experts can easily use the other CFWs available - thus the marketing needs to be extra-foolproof.
 
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Spend 60 USD on the cart ordered from Amazon, and here you go, you can play with Pikachu, problem solved.

They already explained why it is taking so long. Feel free to apply to join their team with your amazing programming skills to speed things up. #entitled

I do feel entitled to speedy updates for the software I purchased when the open source competition already has that functionality. What's wrong with that?

smash bros doesnt need 6.2 firmware.

to download it and to play online it does...

or maybe you should consider actally buying your games rather than pirating then bitching because its taking a little longer for an update which is not just 6.2 support.

Why are you so mad that you didn't even read the comment you replied to?
Is it that infuriating to you that a customer of the premium custom firmware for switch would expect it to have critical features the open source ones have?

TX has always been on the ball for past updates, would like to see them keep up with Atmosphere on this one so I can play smash without losing CFW
 
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to download it and to play online it does...
Only downloading from the e-shop needs 6.2 ...
and you use SX OS, so I doubt you just legit software.

And playing online is something you should avoid with CFW anyway. I think Smash has LAN-play, so I think you could even play online without using NSO.
 

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Only downloading from the e-shop needs 6.2 ...
and you use SX OS, so I doubt you just legit software.

And playing online is something you should avoid with CFW anyway. I think Smash has LAN-play, so I think you could even play online without using NSO.

I pre-ordered the download from Amazon. I need to access the eshop to download it.
I have been using online since SX Pro came out and haven't had any issues.
 

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View attachment 151336 [

Front page since Nov. 27th has picture and news story saying DONT UPDATE TO 6.20
Thanks, I know fully well despite me never being able to access your website from where I am now (certain parts of the image blacked out for privacy reasons).
tx website.png

I know that this is a specific quirk with the network that I am currently trying to access your site from (works fine from home) and it's been like that for ages. The fact remains that your product page still says that it's compatible with all switches older than june 2018 and on any firmware.

But let me clarify again: this is not my issue, really. This is not what I am on about, you do you. It is merely a means to elaborate the real issue at hand (see following paragraph)

My whole point is merely how users like @gizmomelb, @Retroboy, @Bellebite2000 (and others) treat users that do not search every single hacking website for news on the subject matter by instantly calling them stupid, retards or other names. Blatantly ignoring quoted facts (for example from what I would consider the "front page" of your product) that might mislead not as all-knowing users like themselves to run into issues like the one.

I think we both can agree that users that purchased your product are entitled to an update and the current lack thereof rightfully allows users to address this with a comment without being attacked (or having to be called names) by all-knowing gods users like @gizmomelb, @Retroboy and @Bellebite2000.
 
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I pre-ordered the download from Amazon. I need to access the eshop to download it.
I have been using online since SX Pro came out and haven't had any issues.
Ok, but that's your own fault. You could easily also have pre-ordered the cart from Amazon.

Still, being online CFW is always risky and with every update, N adds more telemetry to get more people banned.
 

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My whole point is merely how users like @gizmomelb, @Retroboy, @Bellebite2000 (and others) treat users that do not search every single hacking website for news on the subject matter by instantly calling them stupid, retards or other names. Blatantly ignoring quoted facts (for example from what I would consider the "front page" of your product) that might mislead not as all-knowing users like themselves to run into issues like the one.

I think we both can agree that users that purchased your product are entitled to an update and the current lack thereof rightfully allows users to address this with a comment without being attacked by all-knowing godlike users like @gizmomelb, @Retroboy and @Bellebite2000.

Hahaha I'm not godlike, but after seeing all the whining in this thread I did what seemed like the most obvious thing to do.. I went to the website and saw yes indeed.. the graphic being bandied around in this thread is indeed the correct graphic.. because the bit in the graphic about ''CHECK HERE if your switch is compatible" had me interested as to what it actually said in the compatibility page and whether or not Executor were falsely advertising compatiblity across all Switch firmwares.

Lo and behind it takes you to a forum where it lists which models of Switch are compatible and can be hacked, as well as stating in LARGE, BOLD RED LETTERS at the very top of the information:

IF YOUR SWITCH IS ON FIRMWARE 6.2.0 OR HIGHER IT IS CURRENTLY UNHACKABLE

So if reading is indeed GODLIKE, then yes I am a GOD. And I fear for the future of the planet because it's inhabitants are simpletons. People who do not query will be led to the slaughter like sheep by the wolves in power.


I did not suggest the non-technical users go to every single hacking website for news - all the OWNERS of SXOS needed to do was GO TO THE WEBSITE WHERE THEY BOUGHT THEIR PRODUCT AND CLICK ON THE CHECK HERE BUTTON. Or is it too much to ask someone who has bought a product to read the manual / look on the manufacturer's web site for instructions on how to use it?

So the product works as advertised, advises the user / prospective buyer what it does and DOES NOT work under - so enjoy being laughed at by anyone when you ask for a refund.
 
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Ok, but that's your own fault. You could easily also have pre-ordered the cart from Amazon.

What do you mean it's my own fault? I don't want it on a cart.
I'm not speaking as a child to their mother. I'm speaking as a customer that I'm letdown by the TX's lack of support for this very common use-case (using the latest firmware and being able to access the eshop).

Still, being online CFW is always risky and with every update, N adds more telemetry to get more people banned.

Yeah, I know every time anyone ever mentions that they play switch online 50 people jump in to say they're gonna get banned.
 

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Could you please read one sentence further?
Works On (Almost) Every Switch
SX OS Works with every Nintendo Switch console released before June 2018 out there
. The following sentence specifies what is meant: SX OS works with every console released before June 2018. So according to the sentence you have zero doubt when you have bought the console e.g. at any point in time in 2017.
What do you mean it's my own fault? I don't want it on a cart.
Well, it's your fault because nearly everyone says that you should not buy anything on the eshop so that you don't lose everything in case you are banned. Buying something which has to be downloaded there is equivalent to that
 
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[snip. Bunch of "i feel superior to all you peasants here" stuff ]

You made it absolutely clear. You're superior to all of us and your IQ is immeasurable. All the girls admire your member.

That still doesn't free you from keeping regular netiquette. Just because others might not match your IQ doesn't mean you can start calling them retards.
 

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Well, it's your fault because nearly everyone says that you should not buy anything on the eshop so that you don't lose everything in case you are banned. Buying something which has to be downloaded there is equivalent to that

What does that have to do with TX? They certainly don't say that. They work to protect users like me who want to retain access to the eshop and switch online with features like emunand and stealth mode. There is nothing that I've seen in their documentation saying not to purchase games from the eShop.

Playing XCI titles in SX OS with Stealth Mode enabled should NOT get you banned when booting/using your original Switch firmware online. This is why we personally prefer our Game Cartridge emulation solution, and so should you! ;-)

Another upside of consolidating your SX OS usage from your original firmware usage is vastly reducing the risk of a network ban. You can run SX OS in EmuNAND, of course with our Stealth Mode enabled, and anything that is littered on the EmuNAND's filesystem is not visible to the switch in Original Firmware mode.
 

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What do you mean it's my own fault? I don't want it on a cart.
What does that have to do with TX? They certainly don't say that. They work to protect users like me who want to retain access to the eshop and switch online with features like emunand and stealth mode.[/QUOTE]I don't see any recommendation of using the e-shop here. In fact, the fact alone that XCIs are preferred, which are cart rips, leads you to believe they want you to use carts and not e-shop titles.
 

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You made it absolutely clear. You're superior to all of us and your IQ is immeasurable. All the girls admire your member.

That still doesn't free you from keeping regular netiquette. Just because others might not match your IQ doesn't mean you can start calling them retards.

if you think READING is a measure of a superior IQ then maybe that sums up the American school system and why you and others are now complaining about 6.20 compatibility.
 

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If you've never worked on software development you need to understand that coding is not just grabbing random code and copy/paste it inside your own app and everything will work. Different architectures, different code-bases, different libraries (or same ones but in different versions), all require different approaches to get the puzzle pieces to work. If it was that easy, TX would have burped out an update right after atmosphere published the 6.2 key calc changes but they need to get everything working and with backwards compatibility. On top of that, enough changes are already in place with everything from the latest betas + bug fixing and all. Integrating core sig patching with new key calculations for 6.2 while maintaining the old code like cheat engine, xci loading and emunand also working is far from trivial. People are only concerned about 6.2 but this needs to work on all past versions as well.

Bear in mind that this is not TX related: they're just the target of this example. This applies to the majority of software development. Don't think for a moment that a 2 week cycle for a production (consumer ready) build is a long cycle! It's a pretty damn fast one. Stuff needs to be architected, implemented, old code refactored during this process some of the times, tested, bug-fixed, tested again and only then released.

I would add that it's much easier to release a patch when things were moved around a little compared to 6.2 which was clearly designed to attack CFW, to explain the major difference between previous time scales and the current one.

Also: Rushing is worse than waiting, because if they miss anything at all it can be a bigger headache than just taking your time to do it right. If they make a mistake a console could be banned or they might break something. If they really rush, Nintendo can patch their fix before they have a chance to get all the features working right together. Much better for them to do their testing, get everything working totally right, and having it ready to go.

Personally, I'm really glad that I got my emuNAND setup a month prior on 6.0.1, but my second Switch is on 6.2 because I had to update officially in order to get drivers installed without having to go through homebrew to install those drivers, and so until they get this working my two consoles will be unable to play with each other. That means I'm basically in the same boat as everyone else waiting, but I'd still rather they take their time to get everything working right. Better for them to even be a month or so later than usual with everything working, than a release that breaks something fast.
 
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What do you mean it's my own fault? I don't want it on a cart.

maybe I'm missing the most obvious.. but why haven't you asked for a refund from Amazon? If the Amazon rep asks why you can't use it - tell them the truth - you have a hacked Switch and you cannot download from the Nintendo eshop. The Amazon rep isn't going to give two hoots if you have a modified console or not.
 

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Can a mod please close this thread now, it's nothing but the same comments on both sides bitching and it's clear both sides are never gonna agree >.>
 

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