Hacking Avoiding getting banned, still playing the odd original bought game online?

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Hey, is it possible yet to use an SX Pro or whatever alternatives we have and play backups whilst not getting banned so that I can play original carts online?

There are only a few games I'd want to play online (Smash, Mario Kart) and I have the carts for them.

However a few games like South, I cba to get so would like tto pla backups is this possible yet or still risk of ban hammer very high?
 

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If you go online with cfw you will be banned. You can back up a clean nand, play backups offline, restore clean nand, play legit games, backup clean nand and repeat. keep in mind some people do use sxos online, but Nintendo can, but hasn't decided to do any checks about it yet
(sx os has changed their emunand recently to a "proper" one with 2.3, that's a better alternative now, but I'd wait until some bugs are worked out (non beta release)
 
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If you go online with cfw you will be banned. You can back up a clean nand, play backups offline, restore clean nand, play legit games, backup clean nand and repeat. keep in mind some people do use sxos online, but Nintendo can, but hasn't decided to do any checks about it yet

Actually, if one only plays XCI games theres no way for Nintendo to tell if the game is legit or not, hence not getting banned.
 

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Actually, if one only plays XCI games theres no way for Nintendo to tell if the game is legit or not, hence not getting banned.
Just the act of using CFW alone is enough to get banned, doesn't matter if you never ran a pirated game.
Even if you are right about XCIs, that only applies if you're using your own dump. Nintendo can tell if multiple people are using the same dump online.
Hey, is it possible yet to use an SX Pro or whatever alternatives we have and play backups whilst not getting banned so that I can play original carts online?

There are only a few games I'd want to play online (Smash, Mario Kart) and I have the carts for them.

However a few games like South, I cba to get so would like tto pla backups is this possible yet or still risk of ban hammer very high?
emuNAND seems to be the way to go, you can keep it offline and keep your sysNAND clean for online.
 
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Just the act of using CFW alone is enough to get banned, doesn't matter if you never ran a pirated game.
Even if you are right about XCIs, that only applies if you're using your own dump. Nintendo can tell if multiple people are using the same dump online.

emuNAND seems to be the way to go, you can keep it offline and keep your sysNAND clean for online.

Well if you were to play XCI games only offline I don't see how Nintendo would see if you played a physical copy of the game or an emulated XCI one since as soon as you boot into the original firmware the emulated game is no longer in the slot. Nintendo can only tell you were playing that game whilst offline and that it's not in the console at the moment. I haven't heard people getting banned for using any CFW offline, heck I've updated a bunch of NSP games via CFW and I'm still not banned.
 

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Well if you were to play XCI games only offline I don't see how Nintendo would see if you played a physical copy of the game or an emulated XCI one since as soon as you boot into the original firmware the emulated game is no longer in the slot. Nintendo can only tell you were playing that game whilst offline and that it's not in the console at the moment. I haven't heard people getting banned for using any CFW offline, heck I've updated a bunch of NSP games via CFW and I'm still not banned.
Its only a matter of time, I was thinking the same way a few weeks ago, if you went online with illegitimate nsp's to update them, I did the same thing, they will ban you, nintendo have ramped up their security measures this generation, funny it took them a whole 2 generations of consoles to realise they needed better security.
 

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Its only a matter of time, I was thinking the same way a few weeks ago, if you went online with illegitimate nsp's to update them, I did the same thing, they will ban you, nintendo have ramped up their security measures this generation, funny it took them a whole 2 generations of consoles to realise they needed better security.

Its been 6 months for me and still no ban, granted I have an EU account with the telemetry "disabled".
 

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I mean tbh Nintendo can see these threads just like anyone else, they've stepped up their game, and people are going to keep getting banned because of it
 

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I mean tbh Nintendo can see these threads just like anyone else, they've stepped up their game, and people are going to keep getting banned because of it
There is no doubt in my mind they will keep adding telemetry. It's a finite race though. No new exploitable Switches are being made, while banned Switches grow in number. Every time Nintendo introduces new telemetry, the pool of exploitable Switches becomes smaller. This is not just a problem for people who use exploits, but also for the ones who maintain the exploits. Team Xecutor needs exploitable Switches to see what Nintendo is doing that causes CFW to be detected, in order to update their CFW.

In regards to the XCI discussion: As I understood it XCI's have their own unique headers, which means that no game can be online simultaneously, unless it's been pirated. However, detecting XCI on Switch's that do not go online with said XCI is a tough one to detect. Because in the world of gaming it's very common to lend out or sell used games. So even if the header is stored on the Switch, it's not unlikely for that header to pop up on multiple Switches. To be fair, if the unique header of a known pirated version pops up on a Switch, then it warrants them to ban your console. Same goes for a unique header popping up on a 1000+ Switches.
 

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Its been 6 months for me and still no ban, granted I have an EU account with the telemetry "disabled".
I was using hekate and the tegrarcm vulnerability as they became available from day 1, been using nsp's when they became installable with sigcheck patches, I have been following the switch scene for a long time, and for all that time I was using my legitimately purchased MK8D copy from the eshop for online gaming and couple of other also legitimately purchased games for online, my pirated games were only ever used online for updates, but I still got banned at the beginning of November, so yeah its only a matter of time, disabling telemetry is just a hunch the devs in the community have for protection against bans, just as when the 3ds ban waves were happening and devs recommended people to turn off spotpass and a bunch of other shit in the settings, but the bans still happened, I guess nintendo is using a flagging system for bans on the switch like the 3ds, so again its only a matter of time.
 
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SXOS just released proper sdcard EMUNAND.
You can keep OS and saves seperately on SD Card. No mingling with OFW, no detection.

Sucks for you guys that are banned.
 

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SXOS just released proper sdcard EMUNAND.
You can keep OS and saves seperately on SD Card. No mingling with OFW, no detection.

Sucks for you guys that are banned.

Really ? So I can create an emunand and boot into that for my offline XCI games

and then boot into OFW for my real games?

Is there any guide available for this?
 

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I’ve been using cfw while offline (only XCIs) and whenever I wanted to play online with my own original games, I turn off the Switch and boot again but in ofw instead.


just to confirm. I can boot to cfw to play xci and modded saves but no online. Then I can boot to ofw and go online without worry of ban?
 

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Really ? So I can create an emunand and boot into that for my offline XCI games

and then boot into OFW for my real games?

Is there any guide available for this?

Pretty easy to do just download the new sx os boot file and then go to sx os menu, and go to options “emunand” and create one.

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just to confirm. I can boot to cfw to play xci and modded saves but no online. Then I can boot to ofw and go online without worry of ban?
Your better off making an emunand and keep that offline which sx os already does.
 

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I just boot up OFW and play online. When I'm done, I boot up SX OS and play backups. Haven't been banned yet and I've been usign SX OS since the day it was released.
 

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Pretty easy to do just download the new sx os boot file and then go to sx os menu, and go to options “emunand” and create one.

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Your better off making an emunand and keep that offline which sx os already does.

im fairly new to this switch hacking scene so forgive me if this is a dumb question. But if i go sxos route (im just using hekate at the moment), and create an emunand, ill be able to retain my saves right? does it matter that ive already used reinx before creating the emunand? thanks again.
 

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im fairly new to this switch hacking scene so forgive me if this is a dumb question. But if i go sxos route (im just using hekate at the moment), and create an emunand, ill be able to retain my saves right? does it matter that ive already used reinx before creating the emunand? thanks again.
The emunand is created from your original nand so it copies your saves over yes :)

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The emunand is created from your original nand so it copies your saves over yes :)
It’s just a copy of your original nand.
 
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